Question about our secondary

ChrisXVI · 09-21-2019, 06:02 PM

Our FS is horrendous. Marcus Williams is very near the end of his run as the starter. Last week against the Rams we started playing Vonn Bell deeper because nobody trusts Williams anymore.

Rell&Gold · 09-21-2019, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Our FS is horrendous. Marcus Williams is very near the end of his run as the starter. Last week against the Rams we started playing Vonn Bell deeper because nobody trusts Williams anymore.

I'm 100% sure that's not the case

ChrisXVI · 09-21-2019, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I'm 100% sure that's not the case

He doesn’t trust his instincts anymore. He’s consistently out of position and late to read and react. I hope he can turn it around, but I’m seeing a guy who needs a fresh start somewhere else.

K Major · 09-21-2019, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He doesn’t trust his instincts anymore. He’s consistently out of position and late to read and react. I hope he can turn it around, but I’m seeing a guy who needs a fresh start somewhere else.

Yep and will end up an All Pro elsewhere like M Jenkins.

He just hadn't been right since that whiff of a tackle in Minnesota.

But part of this is on the D Coordinator Dennis Allen. He has yet to successfully scheme up to players strengths.
We have too many high round draft picks on the back end to play this poorly.

I just don't understand why Allen's name doesn't come up more on these poor (lack of tackling and technique) showings on the back end.

The Dude · 09-22-2019, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep and will end up an All Pro elsewhere like M Jenkins.

He just hadn't been right since that whiff of a tackle in Minnesota.

But part of this is on the D Coordinator Dennis Allen. He has yet to successfully scheme up to players strengths.
We have too many high round draft picks on the back end to play this poorly.

I just don't understand why Allen's name doesn't come up more on these poor (lack of tackling and technique) showings on the back end.

Because we have only played two games and for the past two years we have fielded a defense far superior than any we have had in quite some time.
By game 4 if this is still happening I will start playing the bust card.
I do question why his defenses have consistently started the first two games of the season slow.

WillMacKenzie · 09-21-2019, 08:21 PM

I was getting laughed at when I expressed concerns about Williams last year — but I just keep reminding myself, “he’s the next Ed Reed.”

According to camp reporters...

saintsfan1976 · 09-22-2019, 08:27 AM

They’ll settle in. Look it’s a fact of life - Eli and PJ will get beat a couple times each game. You just hope it’s not for TDs

09-21-2019, 06:02 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Question about our secondary Our FS is horrendous. Marcus Williams is very near the end of his run as the starter. Last week against the Rams we started playing Vonn Bell deeper because nobody trusts Williams anymore.

09-21-2019, 07:14 PM	#2
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Question about our secondary Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Our FS is horrendous. Marcus Williams is very near the end of his run as the starter. Last week against the Rams we started playing Vonn Bell deeper because nobody trusts Williams anymore. I'm 100% sure that's not the case

09-21-2019, 07:27 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Question about our secondary Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I'm 100% sure that's not the case He doesn’t trust his instincts anymore. He’s consistently out of position and late to read and react. I hope he can turn it around, but I’m seeing a guy who needs a fresh start somewhere else.

09-21-2019, 08:10 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Question about our secondary Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He doesn’t trust his instincts anymore. He’s consistently out of position and late to read and react. I hope he can turn it around, but I’m seeing a guy who needs a fresh start somewhere else. Yep and will end up an All Pro elsewhere like M Jenkins. He just hadn't been right since that whiff of a tackle in Minnesota. But part of this is on the D Coordinator Dennis Allen. He has yet to successfully scheme up to players strengths. We have too many high round draft picks on the back end to play this poorly. I just don't understand why Allen's name doesn't come up more on these poor (lack of tackling and technique) showings on the back end. Rsanders24, ChrisXVI and Lord_Saint83 like this.

09-22-2019, 12:29 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Question about our secondary Originally Posted by K Major Yep and will end up an All Pro elsewhere like M Jenkins. He just hadn't been right since that whiff of a tackle in Minnesota. But part of this is on the D Coordinator Dennis Allen. He has yet to successfully scheme up to players strengths. We have too many high round draft picks on the back end to play this poorly. I just don't understand why Allen's name doesn't come up more on these poor (lack of tackling and technique) showings on the back end. Because we have only played two games and for the past two years we have fielded a defense far superior than any we have had in quite some time. By game 4 if this is still happening I will start playing the bust card. I do question why his defenses have consistently started the first two games of the season slow.
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09-21-2019, 08:21 PM	#6
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Question about our secondary I was getting laughed at when I expressed concerns about Williams last year — but I just keep reminding myself, “he’s the next Ed Reed.” According to camp reporters...

09-22-2019, 08:27 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Question about our secondary They’ll settle in. Look it’s a fact of life - Eli and PJ will get beat a couple times each game. You just hope it’s not for TDs