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WhoDat!656 09-25-2019 07:15 PM

Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2176tQl...ource=ig_embed

ChrisXVI 09-25-2019 08:01 PM

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Not feasible for us. His cap hits are $15 mil/year for the next three or four years.

westbankdaze 09-25-2019 09:06 PM

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Yep that’s the only reason we don’t want him ... it would be a ‘miracle’ if we signed him

CHA_CHING 09-26-2019 11:51 AM

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Wow. This team is truly falling to pieces and I couldn't be happier. I have always hated the Vikings since all their whining and moaning over the 2009 NFCCG. They have hands down, the worst fan base I have ever dealt with online. Which is something truly special cause their team has a legacy of failure and being losers, but they act like they've got 5 SB rings and are so special.

Minnesota over-achieved in 2017 and it has shown ever since. Case Keenum had one of those fluke career years for a mediocre QB that happens from time to time, but he came crashing back down to earth in the NFCCG (And Keenum's solid play amounted to very little that year. They had to squeak out wins in low scoring games against teams they were supposed to handle easily). Despite having the #1 ranked defense and being so hyped up, they didn't lead #1 in any category like yards, sacks or turnovers.

We exposed that defense in the playoffs and lost on a fluke 'miracle'. Philly throttled them the next week since we had laid out the blueprint on how to attack that defense and proving they really weren't much to be scared of.

These clowns really thought they were one piece away from a SB. So what do they do? Overpay a mediocre QB who just pads his stats in garbage time and has a 5-22 record all time vs teams above .500. People have been arguing with me for years about Kirk Cousins. He was never that good. In this era, any QB can put up good numbers in garbage time when you're down by 3 possessions. Crappy QBs like Ryan Tannehill, Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor occasionally had good games that fooled people into thinking they could become something special.

From "SB contenders" to now hoping to just make a wildcard. I wish we could get Diggs, but it would be impossible.

FinSaint 09-26-2019 01:15 PM

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Minnesota is a good team with a 2-1 record, and their only loss was against GB at Lambeau, which they could've won if couple of plays went differently in the 4th quarter.

Their O-line has improved since last season especially in pass protection and their offense seems much more potent with Kubiak helping on that side and Cook running like he did in his first year before the injury.

Their defense is full of top talent and it's run by Zimmer himself, who is as good of a defensive-mind as Payton is on the offensive side of the game.

They have good WRs in Thielen and Diggs with a good TE in Rudolf and a very promising TE prospect in Irv Smith Jr.

I'm not a fan of Cousins, but he can be a really good QB, and I'm sure he'll improve with the new offense and when he gets more time with the rookie center Bradbury.

Diggs is a primadonna and wants the spotlight to be on him. Thielen has outplayed him, which is why he has been more highlighted in the first games. He has absolutely no reason to demand a trade if that is in fact what he has done.

Rugby Saint II 09-26-2019 01:28 PM

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We simply can't afford him. Draft a rookie with a high draft pick and follow the blue print that Ireland brought us. Besides, our free agent acquisitions have been suspect for years. Demario Davis is our lone exception. We need a new pro scouting department imho.

AsylumGuido 09-26-2019 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 858039)
We simply can't afford him. Draft a rookie with a high draft pick and follow the blue print that Ireland brought us. Besides, our free agent acquisitions have been suspect for years. Demario Davis is our lone exception. We need a new pro scouting department imho.

I hope #32 is high enough because we are winning the Super Bowl.

K Major 09-26-2019 04:12 PM

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Pass.

Continue to develop your roster through the draft.

See MT, Kamara, Ramz, Armstead, Bell, Latt etc.

CHA_CHING 09-26-2019 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 858034)
Minnesota is a good team with a 2-1 record, and their only loss was against GB at Lambeau, which they could've won if couple of plays went differently in the 4th quarter.

Their O-line has improved since last season especially in pass protection and their offense seems much more potent with Kubiak helping on that side and Cook running like he did in his first year before the injury.

Their defense is full of top talent and it's run by Zimmer himself, who is as good of a defensive-mind as Payton is on the offensive side of the game.

They have good WRs in Thielen and Diggs with a good TE in Rudolf and a very promising TE prospect in Irv Smith Jr.

I'm not a fan of Cousins, but he can be a really good QB, and I'm sure he'll improve with the new offense and when he gets more time with the rookie center Bradbury.

Diggs is a primadonna and wants the spotlight to be on him. Thielen has outplayed him, which is why he has been more highlighted in the first games. He has absolutely no reason to demand a trade if that is in fact what he has done.

2-1 with wins against the Falcons and Raiders. Neither one of those teams have looked impressive at all so far this year.

If Aaron Rodgers had not regressed into a below average QB, Green Bay blows them out badly in that game. It was Rodgers crap play that kept killing drives for GB and keeping the Vikes alive in that game.

Cousins is all time 5-22 vs teams with a winning record. If his name was Matt Ryan, no one on this forum would dare defend him.

People are fooled by Cousins and have been fooled for years now cause he pads his stats in garbage time of blowout losses and will put up a great game against the trash teams on their schedule. Washington fans figured this out years ago and it don't look to have changed at all.

They're a talented team, but they were a talented team last year too. Like last year, they are going to blow out the trash teams on their schedule, and then lay down and get destroyed by the good teams. They will go 8-8 and spend another season of people arguing about how great Kirk Cousins' stats are and blaming everything else on the team.

I hate Minnesota as much as I do the 49ers though, so I enjoy their misery.

ChrisXVI 09-26-2019 06:28 PM

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People starting to run with this...


FinSaint 09-26-2019 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 858072)
2-1 with wins against the Falcons and Raiders. Neither one of those teams have looked impressive at all so far this year.



If Aaron Rodgers had not regressed into a below average QB, Green Bay blows them out badly in that game. It was Rodgers crap play that kept killing drives for GB and keeping the Vikes alive in that game.



Cousins is all time 5-22 vs teams with a winning record. If his name was Matt Ryan, no one on this forum would dare defend him.



People are fooled by Cousins and have been fooled for years now cause he pads his stats in garbage time of blowout losses and will put up a great game against the trash teams on their schedule. Washington fans figured this out years ago and it don't look to have changed at all.



They're a talented team, but they were a talented team last year too. Like last year, they are going to blow out the trash teams on their schedule, and then lay down and get destroyed by the good teams. They will go 8-8 and spend another season of people arguing about how great Kirk Cousins' stats are and blaming everything else on the team.



I hate Minnesota as much as I do the 49ers though, so I enjoy their misery.

I'm not sure who you mean by defending Cousins, but he has been criticized by the local and national media and the Vikings' staff.

And I understand that you like to throw around that stat about him losing to teams with winning records, but that doesn't necessarily translate to Minnesota.

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone agrees that he was overpaid, but that is how it goes when only a certain number of QBs are FAs at a given offseason and the bidding war ensues over their emoloyment.

I'd still argue that the Vikes are one of the stronger teams in the NFC.

rezburna 09-26-2019 06:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 858074)
People starting to run with this...

https://twitter.com/bphillips_sb/sta...51712174223361

I like it. 😏

Diggs and Claiborne Bridgewater have a rapport.

Rell&Gold 09-27-2019 03:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 858034)
Minnesota is a good team with a 2-1 record, and their only loss was against GB at Lambeau, which they could've won if couple of plays went differently in the 4th quarter.

Their O-line has improved since last season especially in pass protection and their offense seems much more potent with Kubiak helping on that side and Cook running like he did in his first year before the injury.

Their defense is full of top talent and it's run by Zimmer himself, who is as good of a defensive-mind as Payton is on the offensive side of the game.

They have good WRs in Thielen and Diggs with a good TE in Rudolf and a very promising TE prospect in Irv Smith Jr.

I'm not a fan of Cousins, but he can be a really good QB, and I'm sure he'll improve with the new offense and when he gets more time with the rookie center Bradbury.

Diggs is a primadonna and wants the spotlight to be on him. Thielen has outplayed him, which is why he has been more highlighted in the first games. He has absolutely no reason to demand a trade if that is in fact what he has done.

Has he outplayed him? For you to make plays at WR you have to be targeted. Any player with Stefon Diggs talent would want to be traded if they felt underused. Highlighted would be an exaggeration he only has four more targets than Diggs. 1 more TD and +hundred more yards

Crusader 09-27-2019 04:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 858120)
Has he outplayed him? For you to make plays at WR you have to be targeted. Any player with Stefon Diggs talent would want to be traded if they felt underused. Highlighted would be an exaggeration he only has four more targets than Diggs. 1 more TD and +hundred more yards

If you don't get targeted you usually are doing something wrong. Being in the wrong spot, not beating your guy etc.

saintsfan1976 09-27-2019 05:53 AM

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I like it too.

Warford restructured yesterday so we're using the $2.75M on someone.

FinSaint 09-27-2019 06:42 AM

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What soured me on Diggs was in the GB game when he scored - he celebrated by taking of his helmet and posing to the cameras.

By doing this he earned the team a penalty, which led to a pushed back extra point kick that was subsequently missed.

That was different to me than for example what Thomas did with the flip-phone, because it was all about getting his (Diggs') face on the next days paper.

And I used the word "highlighted" because Thielen has double the receptions than Diggs (11>6) and he has looked much more sure-handed and more open than Diggs in the first 3 games.

TheOak 09-27-2019 06:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858060)
Pass.

Continue to develop your roster through the draft.

See MT, Kamara, Ramz, Armstead, Bell, Latt etc.

I would agree if not for the NFL being a game of attrition and not accumulation, if you don't do both you will find your self with huge experience gaps. We dont pick up enough starters in the draft to keep up with the attrition. When you lose 3-4 year starters through free agency you generally need to plug that gap quickly with a starter.

The average NFL career is 3.3 years
Brees - 19
Ginn - 13
Morstead - 11
Cook - 11
P. Robinson - 11
Jordan - 9
... 24 players over 4 years, 9 Rookies.

ScottF 09-27-2019 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 858124)
I like it too.

Warford restructured yesterday so we're using the $2.75M on someone.

Pull the trigger. Our offense has been anemic.

st thomas 09-27-2019 10:02 AM

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We brought shepon Anthony back. Special teams?never say die

st thomas 09-27-2019 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 858132)
Pull the trigger. Our offense has been anemic.



Boomer and gio show this morning sporting Minneapolis miracle garb and hat to boot. Hate diggs I just do

K Major 09-27-2019 01:35 PM

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Trade for AJ Green ... game over :p.

stickman 09-27-2019 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 857972)
Yep that’s the only reason we don’t want him ... it would be a ‘miracle’ if we signed him


I see what you did there.

Do we want a constant reminder of that event on our team?

Yes, I think we could update our WR core, but let's not overpay someone.

Audiotom 09-27-2019 05:51 PM

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Jarius Byrd anyone?

rezburna 09-27-2019 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858169)
Trade for AJ Green ... game over :p.

👀👀👀

AsylumGuido 09-27-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 858205)
👀👀👀

That was not serious ... I hope.

rezburna 09-27-2019 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 858207)
That was not serious ... I hope.

You don’t like AJ??

Vrillon82 09-28-2019 02:27 AM

Re: Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
I want Ramsey but doubt that happens.

Usually when they sign someone mid season it will be someone similar to like how we got Eli Apple.

Cruize 09-28-2019 06:11 AM

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I would rather have Thielen.

AsylumGuido 09-28-2019 06:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 858209)
You don’t like AJ??

He can't stay healthy anymore.

vpheughan 09-28-2019 10:51 AM

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Imagine all the TD passes being thrown to Diggs by Jimmy G after getting great field position from the interceptions by Malcom Butler..............

st thomas 09-28-2019 10:57 AM

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Diggs is a constant complainer like Brandon cooks , and there going to stomp there feet till they get the location they want to be.

Rugby Saint II 09-28-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 858124)
I like it too.

Warford restructured yesterday so we're using the $2.75M on someone.

Hmmmm…….apparently something is going to happen.

st thomas 09-28-2019 01:28 PM

Re: Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 858270)
Hmmmm…….apparently something is going to happen.



It’s a WR I’m guessing we’re hurting again this year

K Major 09-28-2019 01:32 PM

Re: Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 858271)
It’s a WR I’m guessing we’re hurting again this year

Kirkwood & Tre Smith are OUT. Behind those those two, not a lot of experience in a complex Saints offense.

Dez is a guy I wouldn't rule out in NO. If his agent calls NO next month and says "he's ready", I gotta believe Sean Payton would give him another shot.

st thomas 09-28-2019 02:18 PM

Re: Stefon Diggs has reportedly asked for a trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858272)
Kirkwood & Tre Smith are OUT. Behind those those two, not a lot of experience in a complex Saints offense.



Smith must of really hurt it

CHA_CHING 10-03-2019 02:05 PM

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The Vikings are going to implode soon.

K Major 10-03-2019 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 858277)
Smith must of really hurt it

That ankle was rolled up on pretty good. He was limited at practice on yesterday.

Guess we'll find out more on tomorrow if he's available on Sunday vs Tampa.

We'll need Tre' down the stretch.

lee909 10-03-2019 03:28 PM

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Arn't the Vikings on for a whole heap of dead money if they trade him. They only re-signed him last offseason. Shame as him and Thomas would make a genuine 1-2 punch not seen since Colston and Graham

lee909 10-03-2019 03:38 PM

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With the new contracts for Bell, Ramczyk and Kamara($$$$$$$), i have a funny feeling Onyamata could be the odd man out and ended up price out of a deal, due i dont see much room for a second expensive WR. The new CBA will be very very interesting. IMHO the money for certain positions is getting far to high and i can see it being a issue within the Union. Safeties and non rushing LB are not going to like their salaries stall so teams can pay skill players in the tens of millions.

I think there is a chance to open up the teams cap with a few players contracts in the summer,Kiko Alonso for expamble contract is pretty much cuttable next summer and i think Easton will be gone. Armstead and Warford are out of the dead money phase, if Armstead doesn't stay healthy wouldn't be a shock to see his name in for a trade,especially if the front office fall in love with a QB prospect in the draft and need the capital to move.

neugey 10-03-2019 04:34 PM

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Cousins is such a weird case. Part of me senses he has the mental makeup and intangibles and enough mechanics to be a top QB. It's not likely he could ever be as good as Brees, but I would at least think he could get to Rivers level. But there is something mentally holding him back, almost like he is trying too hard. He's making too much money for that to be the outcome.


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