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SaintSproles 09-28-2019 11:48 PM

We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
I just don't see anyone stepping up after Dallas will obviously take away Thomas and Kamara like they did last year.

Gonna take some really good decoy design by Payton to get things done on the offensive side of the ball.


Cooks needs to go for minimum 80 yards and Ginn probably the same.

dizzle88 09-29-2019 03:13 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Cook needs to learn how to catch first.

But yeah, this one could be tough, they locked down our offense last year and Brees struggled, so cant imagine how Bridgewater will do.

Rueben Mayes 09-29-2019 07:06 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
jus curious...do y'all think the Dallas D is as good as last year's squad?

vtiger72 09-29-2019 09:00 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes (Post 858315)
jus curious...do y'all think the Dallas D is as good as last year's squad?

Dallas's defense hasn't looked as strong, but the personnel has remained mostly the same outside of replacing Gregory with Quinn. Gregory had a good game against the Saints last year, but also characteristically made some bone-headed plays. Quinn is a smarter player and may be as good athletically.

So, have they played as well? Not really. But the players are the same, so they are capable.

vpheughan 09-29-2019 09:14 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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K Major 09-29-2019 09:19 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes (Post 858315)
jus curious...do y'all think the Dallas D is as good as last year's squad?

At the current moment, I don't.

Awuzie has been hit or miss (Parker had his way with him last week) on those boundaries, their LB core didn't wake up until the 3rd quarter and Heath isn't the greatest in coverage on the back end.

I simply fail to see them as this juggernaut the media is making them out to be. Now if we were talking about that current Bears team ... I see them as being every bit as good as last year so far.

voodooido 09-29-2019 09:38 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes (Post 858315)
jus curious...do y'all think the Dallas D is as good as last year's squad?

I don’t, I just question whether TB can lead us to a win. Last week the win was based on defensive and special teams plays.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-29-2019 09:52 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 858341)
I don’t, I just question whether TB can lead us to a win. Last week the win was based on defensive and special teams plays.

That's speculation. There's no clear vision of how the game would have unfolded if those other scoring opportunities had not occured. The offense moved the ball. The offense scored the ball. So stating that the win was solely based on defensive and special teams scoring is a bit disingenuous.

SFIAH

SaintSproles 09-29-2019 11:05 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 858344)
That's speculation. There's no clear vision of how the game would have unfolded if those other scoring opportunities had not occured. The offense moved the ball. The offense scored the ball. So stating that the win was solely based on defensive and special teams scoring is a bit disingenuous.

SFIAH

Strong strong likelihood is the Saints would have lost had it not been for the two non offensive scores. Giving Wilson a shot to win the game in the 4th, especially at home, that's almost a guaranteed win for Seattle. We were very fortunate to be up 3 scores going into the 4th.

WillSaints81 09-29-2019 11:06 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858310)
I just don't see anyone stepping up after Dallas will obviously take away Thomas and Kamara like they did last year.

Gonna take some really good decoy design by Payton to get things done on the offensive side of the ball.


Cooks needs to go for minimum 80 yards and Ginn probably the same.

Dallas is not the same defense year to year. Also, that game was on a Thursday night after Thanksgiving where Dallas has been so used to playing more than other teams. They've won five in a row in that slot.

Last year, also, Dallas was a different team on the road. They looked good at home and then get shutout at the Colts. They also was engaged in a high scoring shootout at the Giants week 17.

Dallas has also played NO ONE. They have a predictable 3-0 record to start the year. Their offense looks so good as well because of that schedule. But their offense is highly exaggerated by lesser key players showing up. These lesser players have shown not to step up when the pressure is on the stars and this game tonight will be an example of that. The only concern I have is they will burn us for some plays but they will not be as explosive as they have been so far. I don't expect the likes of Gallup, Jarwin, or Smith to do anything tonight. Also, I am only concerned about if our offense without Brees can respond to the pressure against a team who has the intimidation factor in their corner. In other words, not beating ourselves.

WillSaints81 09-29-2019 11:09 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858351)
Strong strong likelihood is the Saints would have lost had it not been for the two non offensive scores. Giving Wilson a shot to win the game in the 4th, especially at home, that's almost a guaranteed win for Seattle. We were very fortunate to be up 3 scores going into the 4th.

I'm not so sure about that. Having the big lead was nice, but many teams play with a sense of urgency lately. Seattle probably does not play the way they played late had they not been down so much. I seen the Bengals rally to almost beat the Bills last week. Washington scored 15 unanswered points and was moving the ball downfield again before turning it over on downs against Chicago.

K Major 09-29-2019 11:16 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858351)
Strong strong likelihood is the Saints would have lost had it not been for the two non offensive scores. Giving Wilson a shot to win the game in the 4th, especially at home, that's almost a guaranteed win for Seattle. We were very fortunate to be up 3 scores going into the 4th.

Almost and if doesn't count pal. We won. Saints are over Seattle.

They are teeing up the Dallas game in less than 7 hours.

ChrisXVI 09-29-2019 11:19 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
I think we see Deonte Harris get more involved in the offense today. End around’s, jet sweeps, screens, etc. A little trickery with the speedster to catch Dallas off guard.

K Major 09-29-2019 11:30 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Throwing it out there ... If Southlake aka Jordan H is active today, I think he makes one big play tonight.

I'm almost certain Dallas defensive game plan is to take away Kamara and MT so Jared Cook must step up tonight.

Gotta believe Sean Payton will be very creative tonight with his play calling.

SaintSproles 09-29-2019 11:35 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858361)
Throwing it out there ... If Southlake aka Jordan H is active today, I think he makes one big play tonight.

I'm almost certain Dallas defensive game plan is to take away Kamara and MT so Jared Cook must step up tonight.

Gotta believe Sean Payton will be very creative tonight with his play calling.

I'm seeing this take a lot and I don't get why people get excited when a marginal player that just got placed on the 53 will all of a sudden make a huge play. The chance he sees the field is so minimal, which means his chance of doing anything much less a huge play is just not feasible.

I hope you're right and prove me wrong.

Better chance Harris gets involved in the offense tonight.

TheOak 09-29-2019 02:13 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858362)
I'm seeing this take a lot and I don't get why people get excited when a marginal player that just got placed on the 53 will all of a sudden make a huge play. The chance he sees the field is so minimal, which means his chance of doing anything much less a huge play is just not feasible.

I hope you're right and prove me wrong.

Better chance Harris gets involved in the offense tonight.

Neither Gleason or Harris see much of the field, very impactful plays.

CHA_CHING 09-29-2019 02:24 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes (Post 858315)
jus curious...do y'all think the Dallas D is as good as last year's squad?

So far, they have looked a bit like they've regressed from last year's unit.

They have issues with play action and stopping deep passes. That's something that could easily be exposed by the Packers, if Aaron Rodgers actually shows up next week and don't act like a baby.

Rugby Saint II 09-29-2019 02:32 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
I'm a glass half full kind of guy. I am not optimistic about this game but after the way the team played in all phases I'm certainly not pessimistic either. Some of ya'll need to take a Xanax or smoke a doobie. :smokin:

The win last week has us in a better place than most of us anticipated. Let's remember that we are at the end of a brutal stretch of football and the schedule looks easier going forward with TB while we await Drew's return.

K Major 09-29-2019 05:32 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Tampa could be a problem within the division. Constant pressure on Goff, Vita is collapsing the pocket and creating turnovers.

Todd Bowles is calling a good game defensively.

K Major 09-29-2019 05:37 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858362)
I'm seeing this take a lot and I don't get why people get excited when a marginal player that just got placed on the 53 will all of a sudden make a huge play. The chance he sees the field is so minimal, which means his chance of doing anything much less a huge play is just not feasible.

Unfortunately for us Edelman, Thielan and Cooper Kupp's of the world are not available to us :rolleyes:. You have to trust and roll with the roster you have.

SaintSproles 09-29-2019 07:10 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 858405)
I'm a glass half full kind of guy. I am not optimistic about this game but after the way the team played in all phases I'm certainly not pessimistic either. Some of ya'll need to take a Xanax or smoke a doobie. :smokin:

The win last week has us in a better place than most of us anticipated. Let's remember that we are at the end of a brutal stretch of football and the schedule looks easier going forward with TB while we await Drew's return.

Good solid post.

Agreed.

CHA_CHING 09-29-2019 10:22 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
Beating the Cowboys without scoring a TD sure does feel good.

SaintSproles 09-29-2019 10:33 PM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
It was pretty ugly.

Especially taking 3 off the board at the end of the game. Situationally Payton can't get Bridgewater sacked. Just totally stupid on Payton's part. Defense bailed us out, thankfully.

vpheughan 09-30-2019 06:31 AM

Re: We could be in for a really ugly game offensively vs Dallas
 
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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 858922)
It was pretty ugly.

Especially taking 3 off the board at the end of the game. Situationally Payton can't get Bridgewater sacked. Just totally stupid on Payton's part. Defense bailed us out, thankfully.



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