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dizzle88 09-30-2019 12:10 PM

Observations from the game
 
So just watched the game as I couldn't watch last night due to work, here's what I saw;

So I would be the first guy to say that Taysom should be starting and I still believe that to some extent, HOWEVER; Teddy has done an admirable job and made some nice throws. More importantly, he's not made any game losing mistakes.

It's really tough for a backup QB to sustain long drives though when hes playing against 13 guys, Dallas' defense + Andrus Peat + Larry Warford.

Honestly, I'm surprised Brees didnt get injured earlier, those guys just have no clue how to handle a stunt or pass rush. Peat just looks lazy to be honest.

Defense was outstanding all game, until the final seconds where teams do what they always do - go after PJ William's and it worked. It's a good job morstead pinned them deep, because that completion could have been a back breaker.

We need to get a running game going that doesnt just feature Kamara all the time. You kept Washington over Ozigbo, use him or use Murray more!

Josh Hill - just ugh as usual, had a real chance to get us inside the 5, dropped a nice pass from Bridgewater.

Demario is a stud as usual, Onyemata is our 2nd best D lineman.

It seems like when Teddy manages to reel off a big run, we get it called back - yet that never happens when running QB's gash us.

Speaking of which, our Run D is insanely good.

Huge win, great job Saints.

Now onto a high flying Bucs team that will be playing with a ton of confidence.

K Major 09-30-2019 12:43 PM

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I'd add special teams to your list.

Morestead can punt like no other. Lutz is becoming automatic. That 40+ yarder was damn near exactly in the middle of the goal post.

Last but certainly not least is Mr. Assumpton Deonte Harris. He makes up ground QUICKLY. No tip toeing, dancing, just hits the lanes and goes. He gave our offense a short field on a couple of occasions.

Rugby Saint II 09-30-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 859108)
I'd add special teams to your list.

Morestead can punt like no other. Lutz is becoming automatic. That 40+ yarder was damn near exactly in the middle of the goal post.

Last but certainly not least is Mr. Assumpton Deonte Harris. He makes up ground QUICKLY. No tip toeing, dancing, just hits the lanes and goes. He gave our offense a short field on a couple of occasions.

This is so true.:bng:

fhotard 09-30-2019 02:53 PM

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Yep, defense and special teams were great last night. They won the game for us.

Teddy did pretty well, I thought. He had a lot of pressure but didn't completely fall apart. I'd like to see some deeper passes from him, but that's not his style of play.

The penalties!! Good lawd, they've got to do something about those penalties!! I think I remember seeing some stats years back about how many more penalties the Saints received while wearing white... anyone else remember seeing that? If so, time to go all black.

K Major 09-30-2019 03:15 PM

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Speaking of penalties :dunce: ...

We rank #4 (in a bad way). Gotta clean this up asap.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html

nola_swammi 09-30-2019 04:19 PM

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I am a Teddy supporter but taking that sack instead of stepping up to throw away the pass like he thrown away with 2 seconds left before half to Cook left me bewildered. With that said I believe he should continue to be the starter

vpheughan 09-30-2019 05:03 PM

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Deonte Harris? Didn't he survive 5 draft rounds by 32 NFL teams?

The Dude 09-30-2019 05:54 PM

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They are focusing on holding penalties across the board this year. Fans finally figured out the NFL controls the outcome of games using the refs to call PI. Now they are going to use holding to do the same thing because the average fan won’t recognize it as easily.
Speaking of penalties how good of a season do you think Julio Jones will have now that they are starting to call offensive PI?

SaintSproles 09-30-2019 06:18 PM

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Murray is a bust at replacing Ingram. Terrible set of circumstances that allowed for that to happen. It's Kamara or bust at RB and we have to pray that Kamara's body holds up.

Bridgewater is doing well enough but at some point these drives need to end up in the endzone. We have scored 10 times with Bridgewater at QB and 8 times ended in a FG. He's generated only 38 points in nearly 3 full games. We all know that isn't gonna cut it long term. These close wins may start to turn into excruciating losses, and soon.

This defense is becoming healthier and it's starting to show these past two weeks. First Onyemata, now Rankins. Also Davenport getting his sea legs and becoming a force off the edge after a slow start to the season.

Lutz may very well be the best kicker in the NFL. I used to have the caveat "after Tucker", but now I leave that out. We can argue that one if you care.

Deonte Harris will be the defacto best return man in football within 3 years.

Need to get Taysom involved in this offense to take some of the pressure off Bridgewater to do all the work.

Cook finally starting to get into the action. That needs to continue and then some.

The Dude 09-30-2019 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintSproles (Post 859180)
Murray is a bust at replacing Ingram. Terrible set of circumstances that allowed for that to happen. It's Kamara or bust at RB and we have to pray that Kamara's body holds up.

Bridgewater is doing well enough but at some point these drives need to end up in the endzone. We have scored 10 times with Bridgewater at QB and 8 times ended in a FG. He's generated only 38 points in nearly 3 full games. We all know that isn't gonna cut it long term. These close wins may start to turn into excruciating losses, and soon.

This defense is becoming healthier and it's starting to show these past two weeks. First Onyemata, now Rankins. Also Davenport getting his sea legs and becoming a force off the edge after a slow start to the season.

Lutz may very well be the best kicker in the NFL. I used to have the caveat "after Tucker", but now I leave that out. We can argue that one if you care.

Deonte Harris will be the defacto best return man in football within 3 years.

Need to get Taysom involved in this offense to take some of the pressure off Bridgewater to do all the work.

Cook finally starting to get into the action. That needs to continue and then some.

I thought the 1-2 punch with Kamara and Murray was working pretty well that last drive. We just need to see more of that. Maybe it’s a rythem thing with them and it’s just a matter of time.

Euphoria 09-30-2019 07:15 PM

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Stop with the Hill should be QB nonesense.

There is a reason he isn't starting over TB... you think he was that capable with SP as HC that would already be the case? Duh. Hill isn't as an accurate passer as a lot of ya think he is. He is a read/opt QB. There is tape on Hill that doesn't support him being a starter. I am not sold on what I have seen from Hill when he was asked to be that QB to run this offense.

Euphoria 09-30-2019 07:16 PM

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Our O line needs to get their act together FAST.

They need to run Murray more!

gulfgambler 09-30-2019 07:43 PM

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add;2 in a row and 2-0 in color rush uni's!

Won't continue unless we cut penalty's in half.

SaintSproles 09-30-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 859187)
Our O line needs to get their act together FAST.

They need to run Murray more!

If the first thing happens, then the 2nd thing can happen. Otherwise I wouldn't even attempt the 2nd thing.

SaintSproles 09-30-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 859185)
I thought the 1-2 punch with Kamara and Murray was working pretty well that last drive. We just need to see more of that. Maybe it’s a rythem thing with them and it’s just a matter of time.

The run blocking needs to improve greatly. Kamara is super human and gets so many of his yards on his own. Murray needs help from the line to be successful.

Here's to hoping for some consistency with this unit.

The Dude 09-30-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 859186)
Stop with the Hill should be QB nonesense.

There is a reason he isn't starting over TB... you think he was that capable with SP as HC that would already be the case? Duh. Hill isn't as an accurate passer as a lot of ya think he is. He is a read/opt QB. There is tape on Hill that doesn't support him being a starter. I am not sold on what I have seen from Hill when he was asked to be that QB to run this offense.

I think Hill has the potential to be a better QB than Teddy but he still needs development. If Hill was in right now our offense might look more exciting but I would be willing to bet we would see some costly turnovers.
Tb is a safer bet and is the better Qb right now. I’m not convinced Teddy will be starting material but with the way our defense and ST is playing you couldn’t ask for a better backup.
As I’ve said I think people are expecting him to perform as if he is the future. It would be nice to have the security of knowing what to expect life after Brees but for now Brees is still the Qb. Teddy doesn’t have to be the next Drew. Teddy just has to keep us in games.

homerj07 10-01-2019 07:57 PM

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Just win baby

CHA_CHING 10-01-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 859186)
Stop with the Hill should be QB nonesense.

There is a reason he isn't starting over TB... you think he was that capable with SP as HC that would already be the case? Duh. Hill isn't as an accurate passer as a lot of ya think he is. He is a read/opt QB. There is tape on Hill that doesn't support him being a starter. I am not sold on what I have seen from Hill when he was asked to be that QB to run this offense.

Yeah, Hill is not here to be a future starting QB. The Steve Young comparisons are ridiculous cause he does not have the accuracy or arm strength Young had. When I remember Young, I remember him leading the league in TDs at 37 years old and being an accurate passer. Hill is reckless though with running head first into big hits like Young was in his prime. (I never seen another mobile QB take hits like Steve Young. I think he is the reason there is so much emphasis now on QBs sliding after a run. Young would get battered by not sliding.)

Hill is here to run the trick plays that take pressure off Brees or Bridgewater. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

SmashMouth 10-01-2019 08:37 PM

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CHA_CHING 10-01-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 859354)

"Did the Saints curse us? ARE THEY RUNNING VOODOO!?"

Cheers, you made my night!

Justicenow 10-01-2019 10:28 PM

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I'm not a Teddy hater. But he is not the touchdown machine you think he is. And in the long run field goals are not going to win as many games as you think. Hill actually can pass despite what you believe. He is slippery in the pocket and can turn in what would be a 10 yard Bridgewater sack into a five yard gain. Having Hill run 2 plays in the entire game is not taking full advantage of his skills. When he's in the backfield the defense moves up knowing that it's going to be a run. Payton should every once in a while have Hill actually pass the ball. I tried to get this message to Sean, but he's not taking my calls. If he's only going to get 2 snaps a game, the Saints should let him go when he becomes a RFA after the season. There are plenty of teams that would love to have his QB skills


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