10-3 vs Dallas since 1998

CHA_CHING · 09-30-2019, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I've been saying this for years.... Payton always pulls out all the stops against the Cowboys. They had him in-house, he solved their quarterback mess and basically developed Tony Romo....the Cowboys could have made him their next head coach, from the Parcells tree, but they didn't, so Payton came here....that first year Payton played the Cowboys, 2006 in prime time, the Saints rolled over the Cowboys something like 42-17, and Payton kept his foot on the gas the whole entire night. Saints/Cowboys have always been some of the most memorable games in the Payton era, and this was yet another one.

Dallas is thankfully, one of the worst managed teams in the NFL.

Only reason they are decent is because they've drafted well for the past several years. That's about the only thing Jerry does right.

I hope they keep Garrett employed forever. 9 years and all he has achieved is 2 wildcard playoff wins. Their roster is stacked this year and they could make a deep playoff run, but he'll be what prevents them from it. Don't matter how well they draft, they're coached by a moron.

Vrillon82 · 09-30-2019, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Dallas is thankfully, one of the worst managed teams in the NFL.

Only reason they are decent is because they've drafted well for the past several years. That's about the only thing Jerry does right.

I hope they keep Garrett employed forever. 9 years and all he has achieved is 2 wildcard playoff wins. Their roster is stacked this year and they could make a deep playoff run, but he'll be what prevents them from it. Don't matter how well they draft, they're coached by a moron.

I honestly dont understand why alot of teams lose to them, they so 1 dimensional, although have drafted well on Defense in recent past.

It was the same last year, stop Amari, focus on Zeke, make Dak beat you, pretty simple formula.

I never understood how a coach who was once a backup QB to Troy Aikman in the day, is able to be so bad in building an offense or any offensive chemistry.

CHA_CHING · 10-01-2019, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I never understood how a coach who was once a backup QB to Troy Aikman in the day, is able to be so bad in building an offense or any offensive chemistry.

Garrett would've been fired from another team after that epic show of incompetence in the 2016 playoffs. That final drive was ridiculous; he played for a field goal, rather than a TD and then screwed up the clock.

I know Cowboys fans who were predicting he would find a way to screw up that playoff game cause they know this. They've went through years of it. A 13-3 season and a chance to play in the SB just a few hours south down in Houston? Leave it to Garrett to blow it.

Their team is stacked this year, but he'll be the reason they don't go far. Then Jerry will give him a contract extension like before. All the Dallas homers will defend Landry in training.

Vrillon82 · 10-01-2019, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Garrett would've been fired from another team after that epic show of incompetence in the 2016 playoffs. That final drive was ridiculous; he played for a field goal, rather than a TD and then screwed up the clock.

I know Cowboys fans who were predicting he would find a way to screw up that playoff game cause they know this. They've went through years of it. A 13-3 season and a chance to play in the SB just a few hours south down in Houston? Leave it to Garrett to blow it.

Their team is stacked this year, but he'll be the reason they don't go far. Then Jerry will give him a contract extension like before. All the Dallas homers will defend Landry in training.

On same token though, seems he does little coaching and has everyone and Jerry in his ear. Didnt they have some kid as O-Coordinator? look like a guy in his 20s, thinking to myself no way Dennis Allen is going to let this kid beat him. But then again, they change staff so much and still everything looks the same.

CHA_CHING · 10-02-2019, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

On same token though, seems he does little coaching and has everyone and Jerry in his ear. Didnt they have some kid as O-Coordinator? look like a guy in his 20s, thinking to myself no way Dennis Allen is going to let this kid beat him. But then again, they change staff so much and still everything looks the same.

Yeah, that is Kellen Moore at OC there. He's a former backup in Dallas and Jerry gave him the job cause he liked him. Only reason I know this is cause I talk football with some old timers from TX who are lifelong Cowboys fans and they have been screaming for Jerry to be removed as owner or at least fire Garrett.

Moore did not call the game against us. Garrett did. Every time there is a big game, Garrett calls the offense to try and look like a genius.

That's partly what lost them that big playoff game in 2016 to Green Bay. All year long, they let Lineham run a scheme based on play action and running the ball. In the playoffs, Garrett ditched that for his Romo offense (not much running, lots of shotgun plays and trips formations). That explains why they went 4 wide on the final drive and sat their 1,000+ yard rusher on the sideline, then played for a field goal. Garrett is the one who told Dak to spike that ball with 2 timeouts left and go for the field goal, rather than punching it down GB's throat and winning the game.

The weird thing is; Jerry and his son have managed to draft pretty well in the past decade. Dallas has nailed most of their defensive picks and they snagged an ex-Seattle coach to put on the defensive coaching staff. Yet they're still led by a moron in Garrett and they have Marinelli as DC who's only accomplishments are the 0-16 Lions and the fluke year the Bears were in the NFCCG.

With the right coaching staff, this year's Dallas team could be very dangerous. But they'll be held back cause of Garrett and that's a great thing.

09-30-2019, 02:17 PM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: 10-3 vs Dallas since 1998 Originally Posted by SaintsBro I've been saying this for years.... Payton always pulls out all the stops against the Cowboys. They had him in-house, he solved their quarterback mess and basically developed Tony Romo....the Cowboys could have made him their next head coach, from the Parcells tree, but they didn't, so Payton came here....that first year Payton played the Cowboys, 2006 in prime time, the Saints rolled over the Cowboys something like 42-17, and Payton kept his foot on the gas the whole entire night. Saints/Cowboys have always been some of the most memorable games in the Payton era, and this was yet another one. Dallas is thankfully, one of the worst managed teams in the NFL. Only reason they are decent is because they've drafted well for the past several years. That's about the only thing Jerry does right. I hope they keep Garrett employed forever. 9 years and all he has achieved is 2 wildcard playoff wins. Their roster is stacked this year and they could make a deep playoff run, but he'll be what prevents them from it. Don't matter how well they draft, they're coached by a moron.

09-30-2019, 08:03 PM	#2
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: 10-3 vs Dallas since 1998 Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Dallas is thankfully, one of the worst managed teams in the NFL. Only reason they are decent is because they've drafted well for the past several years. That's about the only thing Jerry does right. I hope they keep Garrett employed forever. 9 years and all he has achieved is 2 wildcard playoff wins. Their roster is stacked this year and they could make a deep playoff run, but he'll be what prevents them from it. Don't matter how well they draft, they're coached by a moron. I honestly dont understand why alot of teams lose to them, they so 1 dimensional, although have drafted well on Defense in recent past. It was the same last year, stop Amari, focus on Zeke, make Dak beat you, pretty simple formula. I never understood how a coach who was once a backup QB to Troy Aikman in the day, is able to be so bad in building an offense or any offensive chemistry.
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10-01-2019, 08:54 AM	#3
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: 10-3 vs Dallas since 1998 Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I never understood how a coach who was once a backup QB to Troy Aikman in the day, is able to be so bad in building an offense or any offensive chemistry. Garrett would've been fired from another team after that epic show of incompetence in the 2016 playoffs. That final drive was ridiculous; he played for a field goal, rather than a TD and then screwed up the clock. I know Cowboys fans who were predicting he would find a way to screw up that playoff game cause they know this. They've went through years of it. A 13-3 season and a chance to play in the SB just a few hours south down in Houston? Leave it to Garrett to blow it. Their team is stacked this year, but he'll be the reason they don't go far. Then Jerry will give him a contract extension like before. All the Dallas homers will defend Landry in training.

10-01-2019, 09:21 PM	#4
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: 10-3 vs Dallas since 1998 Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Garrett would've been fired from another team after that epic show of incompetence in the 2016 playoffs. That final drive was ridiculous; he played for a field goal, rather than a TD and then screwed up the clock. I know Cowboys fans who were predicting he would find a way to screw up that playoff game cause they know this. They've went through years of it. A 13-3 season and a chance to play in the SB just a few hours south down in Houston? Leave it to Garrett to blow it. Their team is stacked this year, but he'll be the reason they don't go far. Then Jerry will give him a contract extension like before. All the Dallas homers will defend Landry in training. On same token though, seems he does little coaching and has everyone and Jerry in his ear. Didnt they have some kid as O-Coordinator? look like a guy in his 20s, thinking to myself no way Dennis Allen is going to let this kid beat him. But then again, they change staff so much and still everything looks the same.
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10-02-2019, 11:57 AM	#5
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: 10-3 vs Dallas since 1998 Originally Posted by Vrillon82 On same token though, seems he does little coaching and has everyone and Jerry in his ear. Didnt they have some kid as O-Coordinator? look like a guy in his 20s, thinking to myself no way Dennis Allen is going to let this kid beat him. But then again, they change staff so much and still everything looks the same. Yeah, that is Kellen Moore at OC there. He's a former backup in Dallas and Jerry gave him the job cause he liked him. Only reason I know this is cause I talk football with some old timers from TX who are lifelong Cowboys fans and they have been screaming for Jerry to be removed as owner or at least fire Garrett. Moore did not call the game against us. Garrett did. Every time there is a big game, Garrett calls the offense to try and look like a genius. That's partly what lost them that big playoff game in 2016 to Green Bay. All year long, they let Lineham run a scheme based on play action and running the ball. In the playoffs, Garrett ditched that for his Romo offense (not much running, lots of shotgun plays and trips formations). That explains why they went 4 wide on the final drive and sat their 1,000+ yard rusher on the sideline, then played for a field goal. Garrett is the one who told Dak to spike that ball with 2 timeouts left and go for the field goal, rather than punching it down GB's throat and winning the game. The weird thing is; Jerry and his son have managed to draft pretty well in the past decade. Dallas has nailed most of their defensive picks and they snagged an ex-Seattle coach to put on the defensive coaching staff. Yet they're still led by a moron in Garrett and they have Marinelli as DC who's only accomplishments are the 0-16 Lions and the fluke year the Bears were in the NFCCG. With the right coaching staff, this year's Dallas team could be very dangerous. But they'll be held back cause of Garrett and that's a great thing. dam1953 likes this.

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