One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs

SaintsBro · 10-02-2019, 10:56 AM

I'm not able to break it down into an official, easily to understand, historical stat, but there is a LONG history of teams laying an egg the week after they have a really outstanding, bell-ringing, jaw-dropping effort, or big upset victory in a game the week before. Especially if the team is middle of the pack and mediocre, and is not like a powerhouse Pats, Packers, Steelers type consistent winner or dynasty type franchise.

The Bucs blew their wad last week, that was their Super Bowl, it was a huge beatdown ,and they expended a tremendous amount of effort in blowing out the Rams, so I have a feeling they will naturally be down a notch or two this week, just because they blew out so much energy pounding the Rams all day long.

If they had beaten the Rams 28-24 last week, in a squeaker, they would be much more dangerous and scary to me, going up against these Saints, if you get what I mean.

But when you ring the gong and blow somebody out, drop a 50 burger on a team from last year's Super Bowl, it's actually very hard to come back the next week and sustain that same level of energy and play "over your head" for a second time in a row. We'll see how they do against the Saints D.

CHA_CHING · 10-02-2019, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Surprised they managed as long as they have, because Goff certainly been the weak link of that offense. But it looked like that since last year and had a few miracles to get them through everything. **** our game in L.A. against them was close until the defense got tired out in the 4th, between that and penalties or penalties not called like Kupps facemask on Lattimore, Goff really didnt do anything then either. Im more amazed how the Rams have stacked ass team on defense and still cannot stop anyone.

The Rams have managed this long cause they're still playing cupcakes.

Their division was a joke last year. They got to beat up on 2 dumpster fire teams and the Seahawks practically gift-wrapped them a win in Seattle with Pete Carroll's time out on 4th down with the last drive. Russell Wilson gave them the other win in L.A. by not being able to throw an accurate pass down field on the final drive.

Goff hasn't been the same since that Bears loss where he was thoroughly exposed, but it was OK cause they still had a bunch of trash teams in their schedule. The Pats literally ran the same gameplan the Bears did and they held them without a touchdown in the SB. The Pats also dropped 3 INTs and that game could've been a bloodbath if Brady wasn't 41 years old and looked it that night.

They finally ran into another team that completely exposed Goff and McVay's offense. It's going to happen again, but it helps when you play in the NFC West. Everyone loves to whine and moan about the Pats in the AFC East, but the NFC West, NFC North and AFC West are pretty bad divisions too dominated by a single team. Kansas City has been benefiting from a trash division ever since the Broncos collapsed, but no one ever brings it up about them and all their home playoff losses.

No one knows for sure yet if the Niners are for real. The Seahawks are good for 8 wins but I'll never trust that team with some of the mistakes Carroll makes. Arizona is a dumpster fire (LOL at the thought that Josh Rosen might end up being marginally better than Kyler Murray by the look of things so far). The NFC West could be bad again and that would help the Rams back into the playoffs.

CHA_CHING · 10-02-2019, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I'm not able to break it down into an official, easily to understand, historical stat, but there is a LONG history of teams laying an egg the week after they have a really outstanding, bell-ringing, jaw-dropping effort, or big upset victory in a game the week before. Especially if the team is middle of the pack and mediocre, and is not like a powerhouse Pats, Packers, Steelers type consistent winner or dynasty type franchise.

I believe this is the information you are looking for -

What Happens After The Blowout?

In 2011, the Colts were the worst team in the NFL. During mid-season of the year that would be remembered as the ‘Suck 4 Luck’ campaign, Indianapolis reached its lowest moment on national television against the Saints. Facing the high powered New Orleans offense and Drew Brees, it was a mismatch from the opening gun: New Orleans won 62-7.
This was a very good Saints team — that win brought New Orleans to 5-2 — and if you were picking a team to win the next week, you probably would have picked the Saints. The Saints were favored by 14 points against the Rams, but were upset, 31-21.

In 2014, the Matt Ryan-led Atlanta Falcons dominated the Bucs in a Thursday Night massacre. Atlanta won 56-14 in a game where the victors produced a record Game Script of 32.6! At 2-1, Atlanta looked like a team on the rise, but the Falcons lost in Minnesota the next week as 3-point favorites.

It feels inconceivable that a team could look so good one week and lose the next. And even more common is the team on the losing end of a humiliating loss turning things around immediately.

In recent years, the three worst blowouts were the Rams crushing the Raiders 52-0 in 2014, the Falcons demolition against the Bucs described above, and a 58-0 win by Seattle against the Cardinals. The very next week, Oakland, Tampa Bay, and Arizona not only all won, but all won as touchdown underdogs!

st thomas · 10-02-2019, 01:00 PM

Im going to reiterate what I liked . On previous post. I’m convinced the bucs are nothing but trash that flashed and will come back down to earth in the dome. Our defense will pick up where they left off Sunday nite. What I saw in the bucks against the panthers and giants is what they are .

K Major · 10-02-2019, 01:46 PM

Just a thought I had on this Saints (post Brees injury) team for 2019 ...

Beating the hated (as least for me) Cows WITHOUT #9 puts a feather in their cap. Those 53 guys will understand late in the year when they may have to go outside on the road in the playoffs, if we get into a tough game they understand they don't have to outscore everyone.

When we face the better teams, being mentally tough could give us the edge.

Let's continue to take care of business and the Bucs on Sunday.

Vrillon82 · 02-05-2021, 01:20 PM

This thread never aged well, they just replaced the QB and got a better coach then Arians that also plays QB.

gosaints1 · 02-05-2021, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

This thread never aged well, they just replaced the QB and got a better coach then Arians that also plays QB.

Good necro right here.

10-02-2019, 10:56 AM	#31
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs I'm not able to break it down into an official, easily to understand, historical stat, but there is a LONG history of teams laying an egg the week after they have a really outstanding, bell-ringing, jaw-dropping effort, or big upset victory in a game the week before. Especially if the team is middle of the pack and mediocre, and is not like a powerhouse Pats, Packers, Steelers type consistent winner or dynasty type franchise. The Bucs blew their wad last week, that was their Super Bowl, it was a huge beatdown ,and they expended a tremendous amount of effort in blowing out the Rams, so I have a feeling they will naturally be down a notch or two this week, just because they blew out so much energy pounding the Rams all day long. If they had beaten the Rams 28-24 last week, in a squeaker, they would be much more dangerous and scary to me, going up against these Saints, if you get what I mean. But when you ring the gong and blow somebody out, drop a 50 burger on a team from last year's Super Bowl, it's actually very hard to come back the next week and sustain that same level of energy and play "over your head" for a second time in a row. We'll see how they do against the Saints D. SmashMouth, st thomas, Rueben Mayes and 1 others like this.

10-02-2019, 12:45 PM	#32
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Surprised they managed as long as they have, because Goff certainly been the weak link of that offense. But it looked like that since last year and had a few miracles to get them through everything. **** our game in L.A. against them was close until the defense got tired out in the 4th, between that and penalties or penalties not called like Kupps facemask on Lattimore, Goff really didnt do anything then either. Im more amazed how the Rams have stacked ass team on defense and still cannot stop anyone. The Rams have managed this long cause they're still playing cupcakes. Their division was a joke last year. They got to beat up on 2 dumpster fire teams and the Seahawks practically gift-wrapped them a win in Seattle with Pete Carroll's time out on 4th down with the last drive. Russell Wilson gave them the other win in L.A. by not being able to throw an accurate pass down field on the final drive. Goff hasn't been the same since that Bears loss where he was thoroughly exposed, but it was OK cause they still had a bunch of trash teams in their schedule. The Pats literally ran the same gameplan the Bears did and they held them without a touchdown in the SB. The Pats also dropped 3 INTs and that game could've been a bloodbath if Brady wasn't 41 years old and looked it that night. They finally ran into another team that completely exposed Goff and McVay's offense. It's going to happen again, but it helps when you play in the NFC West. Everyone loves to whine and moan about the Pats in the AFC East, but the NFC West, NFC North and AFC West are pretty bad divisions too dominated by a single team. Kansas City has been benefiting from a trash division ever since the Broncos collapsed, but no one ever brings it up about them and all their home playoff losses. No one knows for sure yet if the Niners are for real. The Seahawks are good for 8 wins but I'll never trust that team with some of the mistakes Carroll makes. Arizona is a dumpster fire (LOL at the thought that Josh Rosen might end up being marginally better than Kyler Murray by the look of things so far). The NFC West could be bad again and that would help the Rams back into the playoffs. SmashMouth likes this.

10-02-2019, 12:48 PM	#33
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs Originally Posted by SaintsBro I'm not able to break it down into an official, easily to understand, historical stat, but there is a LONG history of teams laying an egg the week after they have a really outstanding, bell-ringing, jaw-dropping effort, or big upset victory in a game the week before. Especially if the team is middle of the pack and mediocre, and is not like a powerhouse Pats, Packers, Steelers type consistent winner or dynasty type franchise. I believe this is the information you are looking for - What Happens After The Blowout? In 2011, the Colts were the worst team in the NFL. During mid-season of the year that would be remembered as the ‘Suck 4 Luck’ campaign, Indianapolis reached its lowest moment on national television against the Saints. Facing the high powered New Orleans offense and Drew Brees, it was a mismatch from the opening gun: New Orleans won 62-7. This was a very good Saints team — that win brought New Orleans to 5-2 — and if you were picking a team to win the next week, you probably would have picked the Saints. The Saints were favored by 14 points against the Rams, but were upset, 31-21. In 2014, the Matt Ryan-led Atlanta Falcons dominated the Bucs in a Thursday Night massacre. Atlanta won 56-14 in a game where the victors produced a record Game Script of 32.6! At 2-1, Atlanta looked like a team on the rise, but the Falcons lost in Minnesota the next week as 3-point favorites. It feels inconceivable that a team could look so good one week and lose the next. And even more common is the team on the losing end of a humiliating loss turning things around immediately. In recent years, the three worst blowouts were the Rams crushing the Raiders 52-0 in 2014, the Falcons demolition against the Bucs described above, and a 58-0 win by Seattle against the Cardinals. The very next week, Oakland, Tampa Bay, and Arizona not only all won, but all won as touchdown underdogs! st thomas and SaintsBro like this.

10-02-2019, 01:00 PM	#34
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs Im going to reiterate what I liked . On previous post. I’m convinced the bucs are nothing but trash that flashed and will come back down to earth in the dome. Our defense will pick up where they left off Sunday nite. What I saw in the bucks against the panthers and giants is what they are .

10-02-2019, 01:46 PM	#35
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs Just a thought I had on this Saints (post Brees injury) team for 2019 ... Beating the hated (as least for me) Cows WITHOUT #9 puts a feather in their cap. Those 53 guys will understand late in the year when they may have to go outside on the road in the playoffs, if we get into a tough game they understand they don't have to outscore everyone. When we face the better teams, being mentally tough could give us the edge. Let's continue to take care of business and the Bucs on Sunday. SmashMouth likes this.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: One of the things I been afraid of about the Bucs Originally Posted by Vrillon82 This thread never aged well, they just replaced the QB and got a better coach then Arians that also plays QB. Good necro right here.
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