Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs

SaintSproles · 10-06-2019, 09:39 PM

Lattimore is back to 2017 form, plain and simple. These past two weeks have been outstanding. And maybe even 3 weeks.

SmashMouth · 10-06-2019, 11:07 PM

K Major · 10-07-2019, 07:46 AM

Deonte' Harris ...

As electric and dynamic as he's been, you must hold on to the football. IIRC, he's muffed 4 to date. You could see him losing confidence on a punt late in the game where he would usually field and go. I know coach loves what he brings but trust me, he'll bench him if he doesn't correct it.

Secure the rock first, then find your lane & take off.

Fumbling "issues" are correctable.

K Major · 10-07-2019, 08:10 AM

Piggy back on my own thoughts with Deonte ' ...

The best punter in the league (Morestead) will work with him on "fielding" those sky high kicks this week. Like Strief alluded to on the point after ... Harris didn't see a lot of end over end kicks until training camp. He'll get it sorted out.

At least I hope ...

jeanpierre · 10-07-2019, 08:51 AM

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jeanpierre · 10-07-2019, 08:53 AM

The Key Matchups I identified PreGame...

RT Ryan Ramczyk vs OLB Shaquil Barrett, Barrett had Two (2) TOT, One (1) Solo Tak, Zero (0) Sacks; Ramczyk had one false start; Win --> Ramczyk

CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; while Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore

DC Dennis Allen vs HC Bruce Arians; Arians' is handicapped so long as he has Winston, that said Arians did a good job of mixing it up, though Allen dialed up some timely blitz/stunts; Advantage ->Allen

Cruize · 10-07-2019, 09:09 AM

- 4-1.
- Teddy 3-0 as the starter.
- The whole team showed up for 3 straight. No letdown. Coaches and players.
- Can't guard Mike.
- DLine flying around like a bunch of crazed dogs.
- Cooks making a difference.
- OLine getting it done.
- To all who made Evans a non-factor.
- T. Hill contributing.
- Ginn with a couple plays.

- The run game is just doing the bare minimum.
- Harris has to secure the ball.

The Dude · 10-07-2019, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

- 4-1.
- Teddy 3-0 as the starter.
- The whole team showed up for 3 straight. No letdown. Coaches and players.
- Can't guard Mike.
- DLine flying around like a bunch of crazed dogs.
- Cooks making a difference.
- OLine getting it done.
- To all who made Evans a non-factor.
- T. Hill contributing.
- Ginn with a couple plays.

- The run game is just doing the bare minimum.
- Harris has to secure the ball.

It’s got to be by design. We have played some pretty stout run defenses Tampa’s being the best in the league. We haven’t really tried to commit to the run. At the end of the Seattle and Tampa games you saw Murray get involved and he did exactly what he was supposed to do. I’m hoping to see more of that during the game rather than just doing it to close.

K Major · 10-07-2019, 09:17 AM

CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; While Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore ...

^^^ this stat on Evans vs Latt ... I mean just last week he just shut down Amari (had almost 200 yards receiving on yesterday vs Packers) & now shut out and shut down Evans? Wow man ... just wow.

jeanpierre · 10-07-2019, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; While Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore ...

^^^ this stat on Evans vs Latt ... I mean just last week he just shut down Amari (had almost 200 yards receiving on yesterday vs Packers) & now shut out and shut down Evans? Wow man ... just wow.

Well, I withheld praise after the win vs the hated Cowboys because Cooper was playing a little gimp and then there's doubt about the Cowboys' innovativeness...

Marshon seems to be motivated vs individual matchups because he definitely had some lapses in zone coverage yesterday - DA will need to find ways to keep him focused in that regard...

Lattimore is no where near an island, shut-down half-the-field guy yet, as he's got to work on the total game...

But the individual athleticism, skills to shut down an elite WR was on proud display yesterday...

10-06-2019, 09:39 PM	#1
SaintSproles Site Donor Drew Brees GOAT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 342 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs Lattimore is back to 2017 form, plain and simple. These past two weeks have been outstanding. And maybe even 3 weeks. foreverfan likes this.

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10-07-2019, 07:46 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs Deonte' Harris ... As electric and dynamic as he's been, you must hold on to the football. IIRC, he's muffed 4 to date. You could see him losing confidence on a punt late in the game where he would usually field and go. I know coach loves what he brings but trust me, he'll bench him if he doesn't correct it. Secure the rock first, then find your lane & take off. Fumbling "issues" are correctable. leilung likes this.

10-07-2019, 08:10 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs Piggy back on my own thoughts with Deonte ' ... The best punter in the league (Morestead) will work with him on "fielding" those sky high kicks this week. Like Strief alluded to on the point after ... Harris didn't see a lot of end over end kicks until training camp. He'll get it sorted out. At least I hope ...

10-07-2019, 08:51 AM	#5
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10-07-2019, 08:53 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs The Key Matchups I identified PreGame... RT Ryan Ramczyk vs OLB Shaquil Barrett, Barrett had Two (2) TOT, One (1) Solo Tak, Zero (0) Sacks; Ramczyk had one false start; Win --> Ramczyk CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; while Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore DC Dennis Allen vs HC Bruce Arians; Arians' is handicapped so long as he has Winston, that said Arians did a good job of mixing it up, though Allen dialed up some timely blitz/stunts; Advantage ->Allen SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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10-07-2019, 09:09 AM	#7
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10-07-2019, 08:17 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs Originally Posted by Cruize - 4-1. - Teddy 3-0 as the starter. - The whole team showed up for 3 straight. No letdown. Coaches and players. - Can't guard Mike. - DLine flying around like a bunch of crazed dogs. - Cooks making a difference. - OLine getting it done. - To all who made Evans a non-factor. - T. Hill contributing. - Ginn with a couple plays. - The run game is just doing the bare minimum. - Harris has to secure the ball. It’s got to be by design. We have played some pretty stout run defenses Tampa’s being the best in the league. We haven’t really tried to commit to the run. At the end of the Seattle and Tampa games you saw Murray get involved and he did exactly what he was supposed to do. I’m hoping to see more of that during the game rather than just doing it to close.
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10-07-2019, 09:17 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; While Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore ... ^^^ this stat on Evans vs Latt ... I mean just last week he just shut down Amari (had almost 200 yards receiving on yesterday vs Packers) & now shut out and shut down Evans? Wow man ... just wow.

10-07-2019, 09:34 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints' win vs Bucs Originally Posted by K Major CB Marshon Lattimore vs WR Mike Evans, Evans had three (3) targets, zero (0) receptions, zero (0) Yds; While Lattimore did flub some zone coverage, he completely shut-out Evans; Win --> Lattimore ... ^^^ this stat on Evans vs Latt ... I mean just last week he just shut down Amari (had almost 200 yards receiving on yesterday vs Packers) & now shut out and shut down Evans? Wow man ... just wow. Well, I withheld praise after the win vs the hated Cowboys because Cooper was playing a little gimp and then there's doubt about the Cowboys' innovativeness... Marshon seems to be motivated vs individual matchups because he definitely had some lapses in zone coverage yesterday - DA will need to find ways to keep him focused in that regard... Lattimore is no where near an island, shut-down half-the-field guy yet, as he's got to work on the total game... But the individual athleticism, skills to shut down an elite WR was on proud display yesterday...