Funny thing about Blake-Brooks season

saintswhodi · 07-21-2005, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

but brooks' wasn't handed a playoff team. he was handed a team who could be headed to the playoffs. also williams was hurt after the 10th game in the season and didnt play again, which means our best rusher was and christ am i right on this terry allen. so brooks has as his rusher terrry allen and blake had ricky who that year had already rushed for 1000 yards in 10 games. dude are you honestly going to tell me that that doesn't matter. because we are talking about that year no.

bro i really do understand your criticism but man trent dilfer is average. are you saying that brooks is no better then trent dilfer. please don't tell me that

Well, some on here are under the impression that Brooks' playoff win means he is the best QB in our history. Thus, Dilfer's Superbowl win=better than AB. Not my opinion, but if you go by those hanging on the jock of that playoff win, it's true. And I am sorry, being given the reigns to a 7-3 team is being handed a playoff team to me. If that means something different to you, then we disagree. They played .500 the rest of the way and made the playoffs. That is being handed a playoff win, cause nothing short of an utter collapse would have kept us out. If nothing else, Brooks has proven heis good for .500.

saintswhodi · 07-21-2005, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

This guy isn't even worth talking to. We went into the playoffs having beaten only 1 team over .500(Rams). And we beat them 2 times, does that sound like a legit playoff team?

AB was handed garbage, and we've all been waiting for it to get better.

I am trashing one player, you are trashing OUR ONLY PLAYOFF WIN IN CLUB HISTORY and i'm not worth talking too? Yikes.

saintswhodi · 07-21-2005, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

Then Ab had fewer games and fewer opportunities to bring his passing completion % up, too. I'm sure you'd agree.

Hmm, is it harder to be over 60% in 10 games, or 6? I think it would be harder to sustain it over 10 games than 6. But hey, to each his own.

saintswhodi · 07-21-2005, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

So what you are saying is, if your team makes the playoffs and win a game, they are not a legit playoff team? So in effect, since by your opinion which directly contradicts the NFL records books, since you don't feel we were a playoff team, we didn't really make the playoffs? I don't see what you are getting at. We were 7-3 when AB took over, leading the division if I am not mistaken, or right there, yet we weren't a legit playoff team? What the hell else are you supposed to do in the NFL besides beat the teams you are supposed to beat, lose to them? We did that the first half of this season. Why, I am crazy and you are sitting hear bad mouthing our only season with a playoff win. And I am not a true fan of this team? Priceless.

You really need to seek medical attention, seriously! So you like to try to twist the meanings of words. Bad mouth our only playoff winning season? We won our only playoff game in 2000. I loved every minute of it, was that team really any good? how many are still on this team, how many are still in the NFL? I'm speaking of the players that played for us.

You are forever trying to make yourself sound correct when you know you're dead wrong! We played a last place schedule in 2000, we beat 1 team over .500 that year(Rams) and went into the playoffs and beat them again. Both times with AB as QB, Blake beat nobody over .500...You love to quote stats when you can, i'm giving you prime stats now you want to use reverse physcology and appeal to me as a Saint fan. You aren't slick saintwhodi.

The last thing I need to be to read through what you are saying is "slick." Believe me. I don't care if we played the girls high school team at Sacred Heart, we made the playoffs. Had we not allowed gimpy arm AB to play out the season the following year, we would have made it again. Or did you forget we were 9-7, even failing down the stretch? Did we play a last place schedule then, after a playoff win? See, I don't need to be "slick," just breathing.

4saintspirit · 07-22-2005, 08:48 AM

Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year --

Blake and AB are actually a lot alike QB wise -- both have a great long ball and are suspect in the touch passes --

ANd everyone knows I am not an AB fan but I will also say this -- AB played pretty well for a guy taking over a hot team at 7-3, going 3-3; That is what backups are supposed to do -- put the team into the position to win

saintswhodi · 07-22-2005, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

The last thing I need to be to read through what you are saying is "slick." Believe me. I don't care if we played the girls high school team at Sacred Heart, we made the playoffs. Had we not allowed gimpy arm AB to play out the season the following year, we would have made it again. Or did you forget we were 9-7, even failing down the stretch? Did we play a last place schedule then, after a playoff win? See, I don't need to be "slick," just breathing.

What did AB, have to do the following season with the 4 game losing streak, where the defense couldn't stop anybody? Do you remember Alstott running wild in Tampa? setting franchise record against our defense? How about Culpepper on the 2 yard line after the offense had taken the lead, Vikings get the ball with under a minute, Culpepper fumbles picks it up holds it, looks left-right stands straight up then rumbles in for the winning score.

Forever trying to find a way to blame AB, even try to make our 2000 team look as if they were legit. What was it Haslett and Muller said about the roster when they took over? Funny how most of the players aren't even playing football immediately after that season, but hey AB was handed a playoff team just like the rest? Please, grow-up!

Hmm, so now you are saying the way we ended the 9-7 season had nothing to do with AB's hurt arm? I wasn't even blaming him, but I know you love him so that's what you saw. I am blaming the coaches for not benching him to get us the needed win to make the playoffs when he was obviously hurt. But this is right in line with your we were a horrible team for 6 years commentary and our playoff team was a farce and blah blah blah. papz is right to ask, how old are you?

ScottyRo · 07-22-2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by 4saintspirit

Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year --

I got my stats from cbs. I rechecked it and unles my eyes are playing tricks on me, he only once attained 60%.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1017

4saintspirit · 07-22-2005, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

Originally Posted by 4saintspirit

Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year --

I got my stats from cbs. I rechecked it and unles my eyes are playing tricks on me, he only once attained 60%.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1017

I stand corrected -- I could have sworn he had 60% in his 4th year at Cincy -- but I cannot argue with proof --

07-21-2005, 10:09 PM	#31
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by spkb25 but brooks' wasn't handed a playoff team. he was handed a team who could be headed to the playoffs. also williams was hurt after the 10th game in the season and didnt play again, which means our best rusher was and christ am i right on this terry allen. so brooks has as his rusher terrry allen and blake had ricky who that year had already rushed for 1000 yards in 10 games. dude are you honestly going to tell me that that doesn't matter. because we are talking about that year no. bro i really do understand your criticism but man trent dilfer is average. are you saying that brooks is no better then trent dilfer. please don't tell me that Well, some on here are under the impression that Brooks' playoff win means he is the best QB in our history. Thus, Dilfer's Superbowl win=better than AB. Not my opinion, but if you go by those hanging on the jock of that playoff win, it's true. And I am sorry, being given the reigns to a 7-3 team is being handed a playoff team to me. If that means something different to you, then we disagree. They played .500 the rest of the way and made the playoffs. That is being handed a playoff win, cause nothing short of an utter collapse would have kept us out. If nothing else, Brooks has proven heis good for .500.

07-21-2005, 10:10 PM	#32
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack This guy isn't even worth talking to. We went into the playoffs having beaten only 1 team over .500(Rams). And we beat them 2 times, does that sound like a legit playoff team? AB was handed garbage, and we've all been waiting for it to get better. I am trashing one player, you are trashing OUR ONLY PLAYOFF WIN IN CLUB HISTORY and i'm not worth talking too? Yikes.

07-21-2005, 11:20 PM	#33
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by ScottyRo Then Ab had fewer games and fewer opportunities to bring his passing completion % up, too. I'm sure you'd agree. Hmm, is it harder to be over 60% in 10 games, or 6? I think it would be harder to sustain it over 10 games than 6. But hey, to each his own.

07-21-2005, 11:23 PM	#34
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack So what you are saying is, if your team makes the playoffs and win a game, they are not a legit playoff team? So in effect, since by your opinion which directly contradicts the NFL records books, since you don't feel we were a playoff team, we didn't really make the playoffs? I don't see what you are getting at. We were 7-3 when AB took over, leading the division if I am not mistaken, or right there, yet we weren't a legit playoff team? What the hell else are you supposed to do in the NFL besides beat the teams you are supposed to beat, lose to them? We did that the first half of this season. Why, I am crazy and you are sitting hear bad mouthing our only season with a playoff win. And I am not a true fan of this team? Priceless. You really need to seek medical attention, seriously! So you like to try to twist the meanings of words. Bad mouth our only playoff winning season? We won our only playoff game in 2000. I loved every minute of it, was that team really any good? how many are still on this team, how many are still in the NFL? I'm speaking of the players that played for us. You are forever trying to make yourself sound correct when you know you're dead wrong! We played a last place schedule in 2000, we beat 1 team over .500 that year(Rams) and went into the playoffs and beat them again. Both times with AB as QB, Blake beat nobody over .500...You love to quote stats when you can, i'm giving you prime stats now you want to use reverse physcology and appeal to me as a Saint fan. You aren't slick saintwhodi. The last thing I need to be to read through what you are saying is "slick." Believe me. I don't care if we played the girls high school team at Sacred Heart, we made the playoffs. Had we not allowed gimpy arm AB to play out the season the following year, we would have made it again. Or did you forget we were 9-7, even failing down the stretch? Did we play a last place schedule then, after a playoff win? See, I don't need to be "slick," just breathing.

07-22-2005, 08:48 AM	#35
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year -- Blake and AB are actually a lot alike QB wise -- both have a great long ball and are suspect in the touch passes -- ANd everyone knows I am not an AB fan but I will also say this -- AB played pretty well for a guy taking over a hot team at 7-3, going 3-3; That is what backups are supposed to do -- put the team into the position to win
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07-22-2005, 09:10 AM	#36
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack The last thing I need to be to read through what you are saying is "slick." Believe me. I don't care if we played the girls high school team at Sacred Heart, we made the playoffs. Had we not allowed gimpy arm AB to play out the season the following year, we would have made it again. Or did you forget we were 9-7, even failing down the stretch? Did we play a last place schedule then, after a playoff win? See, I don't need to be "slick," just breathing. What did AB, have to do the following season with the 4 game losing streak, where the defense couldn't stop anybody? Do you remember Alstott running wild in Tampa? setting franchise record against our defense? How about Culpepper on the 2 yard line after the offense had taken the lead, Vikings get the ball with under a minute, Culpepper fumbles picks it up holds it, looks left-right stands straight up then rumbles in for the winning score. Forever trying to find a way to blame AB, even try to make our 2000 team look as if they were legit. What was it Haslett and Muller said about the roster when they took over? Funny how most of the players aren't even playing football immediately after that season, but hey AB was handed a playoff team just like the rest? Please, grow-up! Hmm, so now you are saying the way we ended the 9-7 season had nothing to do with AB's hurt arm? I wasn't even blaming him, but I know you love him so that's what you saw. I am blaming the coaches for not benching him to get us the needed win to make the playoffs when he was obviously hurt. But this is right in line with your we were a horrible team for 6 years commentary and our playoff team was a farce and blah blah blah. papz is right to ask, how old are you?

07-22-2005, 09:45 AM	#37
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by 4saintspirit Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year -- I got my stats from cbs. I rechecked it and unles my eyes are playing tricks on me, he only once attained 60%. http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1017

07-22-2005, 10:16 AM	#38
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Originally Posted by ScottyRo Originally Posted by 4saintspirit Actually Blake did have one season prior to that year with 62% of his passes completed -- forgot the receivers name but he has some tall stud that scored 12 TDs that year -- I got my stats from cbs. I rechecked it and unles my eyes are playing tricks on me, he only once attained 60%. http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1017 I stand corrected -- I could have sworn he had 60% in his 4th year at Cincy -- but I cannot argue with proof --
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