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SmashMouth 10-21-2019 05:10 AM
Saints QB Drew Brees reveals he's returning to practice and hopes to play vs. Cardinals
 

nola_swammi 10-21-2019 04:38 PM
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DB should reclaim the offense after the bye. It will be ok to make him active for the cardinals game but TB should start. I believe it will be best for the franchise to let Drew Brees finish this season,,I know I might get blasted for this but I think its time to offer TB a contract to become the future.

CHA_CHING 10-21-2019 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 863094)
DB should reclaim the offense after the bye. It will be ok to make him active for the cardinals game but TB should start. I believe it will be best for the franchise to let Drew Brees finish this season,,I know I might get blasted for this but I think its time to offer TB a contract to become the future.
100% agree.

If we win the SB this year, I want Brees to retire and we go with Teddy. Brees don't have much time left. Look at the situation in New England with a declined corpse of Brady; that would be our future.

We need to win it all this year with Brees, then go with Bridgewater for the future.

ChrisXVI 10-21-2019 05:03 PM
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Sit this one out too Drew. We’ll get a fresh start after the bye.

NOLA54 10-21-2019 05:08 PM
Re: Saints QB Drew Brees reveals he's returning to practice and hopes to play vs. Cardinals
 
He didn't sound as positive as I thought he would. Remember he deified the odds with his shoulder injury. He will comeback when he's healthy.

Thirty3 10-21-2019 05:39 PM
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Bridgewater can be the future for another team. Hill or a draft pick for us. We won most of these games in spite of Teddy. Look, the guy is ok. Not what I want.

ChrisXVI 10-21-2019 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 863103)
Bridgewater can be the future for another team. Hill or a draft pick for us. We won most of these games in spite of Teddy. Look, the guy is ok. Not what I want.
How many games have we won with Taysom Hill at QB? The guy’s done literally nothing in the NFL as a starting QB and you want him as our future QB?

CHA_CHING 10-21-2019 05:51 PM
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Taysom Hill is better as a trick player. His inaccuracy would be glaring as a starter.

How long do you guys think we have with Brees? He declined pretty hard last year and we really don't know how good he's going to be coming back from this injury. Teddy could seriously be our future.

I don't see Brees, Brady, Rodgers or whoever playing into their mid 40s. Brady is a corpse of his former self, looking a lot like 2015 Peyton Manning. THAT is what I dread the longer Brees carries on. These guys decline eventually with age. It just happens.

saintfan 10-21-2019 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 863103)
Bridgewater can be the future for another team. Hill or a draft pick for us. We won most of these games in spite of Teddy. Look, the guy is ok. Not what I want.
Teddy isn't spectacular, but I disagree. I don't think we have won in spite of him. I think he has played pretty smart given the situation. Teddy has done, I think, exactly what he has been asked to do.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 863098)
100% agree.

If we win the SB this year, I want Brees to retire and we go with Teddy. Brees don't have much time left. Look at the situation in New England with a declined corpse of Brady; that would be our future.

We need to win it all this year with Brees, then go with Bridgewater for the future.
Absolutely not! First of all, and most importantly, Brees has stated multiple times that he has no wish to retire as long as he still enjoys the game and if you looked at his eyes while being forced to watch from the sidelines he isn't anywhere close to that date. He also said winning another Lombardi wouldn't factor into any retirement decision.

Secondly, while Teddy has done a good job of filling in in the interim, he still can't hold Brees' jockstrap. I doubt we can keep him as Brees' backup and hope he finds a starting job elsewhere.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 06:06 PM
Re: Saints QB Drew Brees reveals he's returning to practice and hopes to play vs. Cardinals
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863106)
How many games have we won with Taysom Hill at QB? The guy’s done literally nothing in the NFL as a starting QB and you want him as our future QB?
As far as I'm concerned we don't have Brees' successor on our current roster. I would be shocked if he retires prior to the 2021 season. He still loves the game, can still perform at a higher level than Teddy and most all of the NFL starters, and wants those lifetime records as a legacy.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 863109)
Teddy isn't spectacular, but I disagree. I don't think we have won in spite of him. I think he has played pretty smart given the situation. Teddy has done, I think, exactly what he has been asked to do.
Yes, I cannot disagree with any of that, but that does not mean that he can hang around on our roster long enough to be our next full-time starter.

jeanpierre 10-21-2019 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 863108)
Taysom Hill is better as a trick player. His inaccuracy would be glaring as a starter.

How long do you guys think we have with Brees? He declined pretty hard last year and we really don't know how good he's going to be coming back from this injury. Teddy could seriously be our future.

I don't see Brees, Brady, Rodgers or whoever playing into their mid 40s. Brady is a corpse of his former self, looking a lot like 2015 Peyton Manning. THAT is what I dread the longer Brees carries on. These guys decline eventually with age. It just happens.
Seriously?

Lord_Saint83 10-21-2019 06:19 PM
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Sean has proven to me he can win without drew. For a while i thought they went hand and hand. Im not saying drew should retire or teddy be full time starter but the fact is drew will get to a peyton manning point sooner than later, it happens to everyone. The mind is willing but the body says no. But if not teddy we need to look for a replacement in the near future.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 863118)
Sean has proven to me he can win without drew. For a while i thought they went hand and hand. Im not saying drew should retire or teddy be full time starter but the fact is drew will get to a peyton manning point sooner than later, it happens to everyone. The mind is willing but the body says no. But if not teddy we need to look for a replacement in the near future.
Peyton Manning got to the "peyton manning point" because he suffered a serious neck injury. We're talking apples and oranges. Manning and Brees are nothing alike in physicality. Totally different body types. His body is no where close to saying "no", especially with his commitment to staying fit.

ChrisXVI 10-21-2019 06:32 PM
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Lately I can’t help but think about something... would we have won these last five games if Brees wasn’t injured? I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t mean it as a slight to Brees in any way, but you never know how differently things could have shaken out. Would the defense have stepped up the way they have if Brees was there to bail the team out? We’ll never know.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863121)
Lately I can’t help but think about something... would we have won these last five games if Brees wasn’t injured? I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t mean it as a slight to Brees in any way, but you never know how differently things could have shaken out. Would the defense have stepped up the way they have if Brees was there to bail the team out? We’ll never know.
I can see where you are coming from, and I cannot disagree again. Sometimes thing just happen to work out.

darksoul35 10-21-2019 07:35 PM
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I like TB and I wouldn't care if we signed him long term but if I can have Brees 3 or 4 more more years its not even a choice IMO.

cmike 10-21-2019 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 863121)
Lately I can’t help but think about something... would we have won these last five games if Brees wasn’t injured? I know it sounds crazy, and I don’t mean it as a slight to Brees in any way, but you never know how differently things could have shaken out. Would the defense have stepped up the way they have if Brees was there to bail the team out? We’ll never know.
I agree totally. The one thing Teddy has done well so far is protect the ball. Drew has had seasons and games where his INT’s have dug us in holes.
I go back to the Dallas game last season, does Teddy throw that pick to end the game. He’s done a good job so far not giving opponents additional opportunities.

AsylumGuido 10-21-2019 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 863128)
I like TB and I wouldn't care if we signed him long term but if I can have Brees 3 or 4 more more years its not even a choice IMO.
Totally agree. And what many do not realize is that Brees' importance to our success far exceeds his play on the field. He is a vital emotional element to our success. Anyone hoping to move on from Brees before he decides to move on himself is delusional.

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SaintGnome 10-21-2019 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863110)
Absolutely not! First of all, and most importantly, Brees has stated multiple times that he has no wish to retire as long as he still enjoys the game and if you looked at his eyes while being forced to watch from the sidelines he isn't anywhere close to that date. He also said winning another Lombardi wouldn't factor into any retirement decision.

Secondly, while Teddy has done a good job of filling in in the interim, he still can't hold Brees' jockstrap. I doubt we can keep him as Brees' backup and hope he finds a starting job elsewhere.
I dunno Guido, I think people are fooling themselves that "because of the new QB rules" QB's are going to keep going until 45-50. Big Ben's arm almost fell off doing what, throwing a pass? Payton Manning went from the top of his game in 2014 and then fell off a cliff in 2015 at 39. Farve had a fantastic 2009, only to fall off the rails in 2010 and retire at 41 and he's one of the toughest SOB's I've seen play QB. Assuming Drew will play the next 5 years at a high level and stay healthy is a pretty big risk. While I'll be the first person to say that Teddy is not Drew he's also sure as hell not Winston, Mariotta, Fitzpatrick, Trubisky, Flacco, Tannehill, Rosen, et cetera. We let Teddy get away, who knows when we get another good QB and in the meantime we waste a friggin' fantastic D, ST, OL, and RBs trying to find one. Teddy can win in our current scenario. We need to make a hard decision AFTER this season.

st thomas 10-21-2019 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 863094)
DB should reclaim the offense after the bye. It will be ok to make him active for the cardinals game but TB should start. I believe it will be best for the franchise to let Drew Brees finish this season,,I know I might get blasted for this but I think its time to offer TB a contract to become the future.


To many people to pay to afford TB. any more than a 1 year deal again. And then. Teddy will go to crap if Drew is active . U give it to the king right away.


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Rsanders24 10-21-2019 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 863146)
I dunno Guido, I think people are fooling themselves that "because of the new QB rules" QB's are going to keep going until 45-50. Big Ben's arm almost fell off doing what, throwing a pass? Payton Manning went from the top of his game in 2014 and then fell off a cliff in 2015 at 39. Farve had a fantastic 2009, only to fall off the rails in 2010 and retire at 41 and he's one of the toughest SOB's I've seen play QB. Assuming Drew will play the next 5 years at a high level and stay healthy is a pretty big risk. While I'll be the first person to say that Teddy is not Drew he's also sure as hell not Winston, Mariotta, Fitzpatrick, Trubisky, Flacco, Tannehill, Rosen, et cetera. We let Teddy get away, who knows when we get another good QB and in the meantime we waste a friggin' fantastic D, ST, OL, and RBs trying to find one. Teddy can win in our current scenario. We need to make a hard decision AFTER this season.
This...that cliff is steep and you don’t know when it’s coming. None of the QBs you listed above thought that it would come upon them that quickly. You have to be very careful with this decision. The draft is definitely a gamble and while it doesn’t seem like it TB is very young and has had pretty good success in the league. If we continue to build a great team around the QB, we don’t need a superstar QB to win.

st thomas 10-21-2019 10:06 PM
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It’s not just teddy teddy teddy how bout some props for the O-line that finally got it together, a super bowl defense to boot. Teddy will get his pay day with another team. Sorry , drew and Payton are joined at the hip. The chargers are on my list where he could land. Another crustee ole man there. What about New England if egor gives it up this year. They love dealing #1s we won’t trade him in the division . The titans . Just saying. We can’t hold him at 7 mill a year he wants to play and earn.


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st thomas 10-21-2019 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 863168)
It’s not just teddy teddy teddy how bout some props for the O-line that finally got it together, a super bowl defense to boot. Teddy will get his pay day with another team. Sorry , drew and Payton are joined at the hip. The chargers are on my list where he could land. Another crustee ole man there. What about New England if egor gives it up this year. They love dealing #1s we won’t trade him in the division . The titans . Just saying. We can’t hold him at 7 mill a year he wants to play and earn.


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Oh and the bengals trade him head up for AJ Green.


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nola_swammi 10-22-2019 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 863164)
To many people to pay to afford TB. any more than a 1 year deal again. And then. Teddy will go to crap if Drew is active . U give it to the king right away.


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Looking at these responses remind me of old yeller. Drew will cost more and he is worth it but it's time for teddy to take over after this season. Like Joe Montana left the 40whinners to the chiefs, Brees and Brady both will be playing for different teams next year. I see teddy growing and the team revolving around him this franchise will not die off when brees leave they will become stronger. Plus with Payton developing a bond with teddy and signed a new contract it is likely that Teddy will be the starter next year

AsylumGuido 10-22-2019 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 863199)
Looking at these responses remind me of old yeller. Drew will cost more and he is worth it but it's time for teddy to take over after this season. Like Joe Montana left the 40whinners to the chiefs, Brees and Brady both will be playing for different teams next year. I see teddy growing and the team revolving around him this franchise will not die off when brees leave they will become stronger. Plus with Payton developing a bond with teddy and signed a new contract it is likely that Teddy will be the starter next year
Brees has, once again, stated on multiple occasions that 1) he will absolutely play the remainder of his career with the Saints, and 2) has no plans on retiring as long as he has a passion for the game. You are fooling yourself if you think Brees is going anywhere.

In addition, we haven't won the last five games because of Bridgewater. We have won because of the defense. Teddy has done enough to keep us in the games and has minimized mistakes, but he has repeatedly missed the open receiver ... something Brees does not do.

AsylumGuido 10-22-2019 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863166)
This...that cliff is steep and you don’t know when it’s coming. None of the QBs you listed above thought that it would come upon them that quickly. You have to be very careful with this decision. The draft is definitely a gamble and while it doesn’t seem like it TB is very young and has had pretty good success in the league. If we continue to build a great team around the QB, we don’t need a superstar QB to win.
Once again, Peyton Manning's "deep cliff" was based upon a serious neck injury and nerve damage. He also was never the workout demon that Brees is proven to be. This isn't the 1970's. Hell, this isn't even the early 2000's! Whether you choose to believe it or not, with today's new year round training and nutrition athletes in every sport will play longer ... especially at a well protected position like QB.

Rugby Saint II 10-22-2019 12:37 PM
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We have teddy on a one year rental. He'll be playing elsewhere next year I would imagine. Drew is still the future.


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