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WillMacKenzie 10-21-2019 08:54 PM

Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
I would trade Teddy while his stock is super high to a desperate team grasping at straws for a QB. We’re hurting in other areas and you could maximize your return right now.

In fact, if part of Sean Payton’s strategy was to let TB ride this wave in order to offload him at max value, I’d be even more impressed with coach.

I know it’s a hot take, but thoughts?

foreverfan 10-21-2019 09:02 PM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
Get a high #1 pick and draft LSU Joe Burrow! This guy is playing in a Saints offense and looks like Tom Brady.


Lord_Saint83 10-21-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 863154)

Its gonna have to be top 3. Cause if he has a really good showing and win against alabama, he will go that high. Maybe even overall.

foreverfan 10-21-2019 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 863155)
Its gonna have to be top 3. Cause if he has a really good showing and win against alabama, he will go that high. Maybe even overall.


Trade both #1 picks for a higher pick. Right now we would have to move up from the #32 pick. ;)


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The Dude 10-21-2019 09:31 PM

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We could just trade all our picks for the 1 overall. That’s the way to build a dynasty right there .

foreverfan 10-21-2019 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 863160)
We could just trade all our picks for the 1 overall. That’s the way to build a dynasty right there .


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Rsanders24 10-21-2019 09:45 PM

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No one would take that trade...a first round pick for Bridgewater? Nice dream. He’s on a one year deal and the way most of y’all talk about him why would you think you would get anything more than a 3rd for him....he just a game manager...

foreverfan 10-21-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863162)
No one would take that trade...a first round pick for Bridgewater? Nice dream. He’s on a one year deal and the way most of y’all talk about him why would you think you would get anything more than a 3rd for him....he just a game manager...


Are you saying I'm dreaming outside of my reality? Me... Really?
How well do you think you know me. :p

WillMacKenzie 10-21-2019 10:11 PM

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We could consolidate all of our 1st round picks into an ultimate pick, which would allow us to retroactively steal any round pick from any team at any time.

CHA_CHING 10-21-2019 10:28 PM

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We're 5-0 with Teddy....

I'd rather keep him.

Beastmode 10-21-2019 11:17 PM

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He's worth more than a 3rd but nobody is giving us a 2nd. Just keep him. I would not take a 3rd or any combination of lesser picks. I saw they Benched Brady late in the game. We could start doing that with confidence in some games which we probably should be doing.

RailBoss 10-21-2019 11:36 PM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 863174)
He's worth more than a 3rd but nobody is giving us a 2nd. Just keep him. I would not take a 3rd or any combination of lesser picks. I saw they Benched Brady late in the game. We could start doing that with confidence in some games which we probably should be doing.

That Gregg Williams Defense was all over Brady, in fact Brady was so
overwhelmed he sat out and ordered a few Hot Dogs. Gisele doesn't let
Tommy eat tube steaks at home.

jeanpierre 10-21-2019 11:56 PM

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Nobody will give us anything of significant value for Bridgewater, since we've already overpaid, why would we get rid of him now?!?

WillMacKenzie 10-22-2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 863184)
Nobody will give us anything of significant value for Bridgewater, since we've already overpaid, why would we get rid of him now?!?

The Bears moved UP to get Trubisky over Mahomes — anything is possible

Audiotom 10-22-2019 12:49 AM

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Teddy wouldn't be doing as well behind a mediocre line

Like a team you would trade him to

nola_swammi 10-22-2019 02:26 AM

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I am glad y'all are not the GM. Teddy isn't managing the game he is performing to what the game plan is for the specific team. If he was managing the team he would be averaging no more than 15 passes per game. Example Trent Dilfer

TheOak 10-22-2019 02:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 863170)
We're 5-0 with Teddy....

I'd rather keep him.

Not intending to come off like a smart-ass but just pointing out the distinction without difference in that statement... We are also 5-0 with Crawley, you high on him as well?

nola_swammi 10-22-2019 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 863204)
Not intending to come off like a smart-ass but just pointing out the distinction without difference in that statement... We are also 5-0 with Crawley, you high on him as well?

In 2017 we all was high on him when devante Harris was being bombed on like Pearl Harbor and we lost P.J. Williams to concussion. 2019, it's what have you done for me lately.


As for Teddy he is winning. Did you say trade Drew Brees when he was 5-0 and coming from a severe shoulder injury?

nola_swammi 10-22-2019 03:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 863193)
Teddy wouldn't be doing as well behind a mediocre line

Like a team you would trade him to

No one can perform from a mediocre line. Not even Drew

saintsfan1976 10-22-2019 04:25 AM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 863149)
I would trade Teddy while his stock is super high to a desperate team grasping at straws for a QB. We’re hurting in other areas and you could maximize your return right now.

In fact, if part of Sean Payton’s strategy was to let TB ride this wave in order to offload him at max value, I’d be even more impressed with coach.

I know it’s a hot take, but thoughts?

If we trade Teddy and Drew goes down, we become a "desperate team grasping at straws for a QB"

I wouldn't risk it

TheOak 10-22-2019 04:52 AM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 863206)
In 2017 we all was high on him when devante Harris was being bombed on like Pearl Harbor and we lost P.J. Williams to concussion. 2019, it's what have you done for me lately.


As for Teddy he is winning. Did you say trade Drew Brees when he was 5-0 and coming from a severe shoulder injury?

I get it, you love you some Teddy Bridgewater, so much in fact that you are replying to something I havent said. I have never said trade Drew, and if you can point out where I said trade Teddy you might have a discussion point.

The point that I made was that no player owns a record, its a team. You might be able to argue that a coach can own a record but no player does. If you want to hang 5-0 on Teddy enjoy brother...

As far as trades go, if the value is right you trade anyone.. Brees, Teddy, Kamara, anyone that you can get more value for you trade. We have traded players performing better than Teddy Bridewater in the past, and will do so in the future.:bng:

neugey 10-22-2019 05:12 AM

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We are blessed to be 5-0 with Bridgewater starting. I would hate to see the bad karma coming our way if we traded Teddy. We got ahead of the curve by having a good backup QB, let's keep it that way.

AsylumGuido 10-22-2019 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 863211)
I get it, you love you some Teddy Bridgewater, so much in fact that you are replying to something I havent said. I have never said trade Drew, and if you can point out where I said trade Teddy you might have a discussion point.

The point that I made was that no player owns a record, its a team. You might be able to argue that a coach can own a record but no player does. If you want to hang 5-0 on Teddy enjoy brother...

As far as trades go, if the value is right you trade anyone.. Brees, Teddy, Kamara, anyone that you can get more value for you trade. We have traded players performing better than Teddy Bridewater in the past, and will do so in the future.:bng:

Brees has a strict "no trade" clause in his contract.

rezburna 10-22-2019 07:10 AM

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And this is why players are choosing to remain loyal to their own self interests instead of franchises and fans.

ScottF 10-22-2019 07:11 AM

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Every team that is eyeing Teddy knows he'll be available, and our only positives are that we shed that big contract and maybe get a comp pick in the 4th round range.

Redskins, Dolphins, panthers, Gengals, and Jax could be looking, but teams like the Bears, Vikings, Broncos and Titans might think they have a shot now. A team that thought they could win now would really be our chance to get any value

cmike 10-22-2019 08:15 AM

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If a contending team calls about Teddy after Drew returns, do it. Only if a 1st round pick is offered though . Otherwise we’d be loosing a proven starting QB in 2020 for nada. Drew plans on playing for another 2 seasons at least. Is Teddy really gonna wait that long.

WillMacKenzie 10-22-2019 08:20 AM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 863244)
If a contending team calls about Teddy after Drew returns, do it. Only if a 1st round pick is offered though . Otherwise we’d be loosing a proven starting QB in 2020 for nada. Drew plans on playing for another 2 seasons at least. Is Teddy really gonna wait that long.

I think the timing of it lines up perfectly. If Teddy decides to “stay in a good situation again” after the season, it puts the team in an awkward position of having to move TB after the fans have fallen head over heels for him.

Then they’ll forever be dealing with “why’d you get rid of a QB who led us to 5 straight wins without Brees?!”

RailBoss 10-22-2019 08:38 AM

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Problem as I see it, we have no clue what Drew's capabilities are when he gets back. Would be pretty risky for SP to let Teddy walk.

vpheughan 10-22-2019 08:56 AM

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Overpaid?

How High Is Up?
How Long Is a Piece of String?
He's doing exactly what he was paid to do.
5 wins in a row 3 of those on the road and leading the division.
How much is that worth?

saintfan 10-22-2019 09:05 AM

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I would make a crappy GM. I could NOT trade Teddy, and I could certainly not trade him to some crappy desperate team. I just couldn't do that to him. He didn't have to be here, and he has saved our bacon.

Nope. I just couldn't do it. I'd all but break the bank to keep him next year too.

WillMacKenzie 10-22-2019 09:08 AM

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I’d be a bad GM too. Realistically if they traded him, they’d probably screw up the locker room.

But still I’d try to get some delusional, emotional team to give up more than they should

WW_Who_Dat 10-22-2019 09:18 AM

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Flame if you must but I do not think Teddy is the long term answer here, at least up until this point. Yes has managed the game plan Coach has made each week effectively and not lost a game but I think that speaks more to our great defense play week in and out, game planning along with tremendous depth of talent that is carrying this team right now, and yes Teddy is part of that depth and I am glad he is here.

Place TB on 85% of the teams right now and I don’t see anywhere near the personal performance or overall winning record repeating itself. TB play this week in the second half was a step in the right direction but he was very inconsistent in the first half with his throws. His completion % is high because the high % of check down passes.

When our running game started working in the second half TB became far more effective. Just don’t believe he is the man that can put this team on his shoulders any carry a team like a Bees Brady Manning or Rodgers. Thats what Saints have now experienced and not sure anything less will feel right.

SaintsBro 10-22-2019 09:29 AM

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I'm glad we're getting all the idiocy out of the way in a single thread.

WillMacKenzie 10-22-2019 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 863274)
I'm glad we're getting all the idiocy out of the way in a single thread.

Glad you finally posted so we could wrap that up lol

RailBoss 10-22-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 863274)
I'm glad we're getting all the idiocy out of the way in a single thread.

This here's New Orleans, this is what we do..

Rugby Saint II 10-22-2019 12:07 PM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
That is a tough question. Remember, Jeff Ireland can do wonders with draft picks and build the team from within rather than expensive free agents.

Budsdrinker 10-22-2019 12:29 PM

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It would be pretty foolish in my opinion if we traded Teddy without knowing
how Drew's thumb is going to be for the rest of the year. Right now Teddy is the same age that Drew was in 2006 when we first signed him. Payton developed Drew into the passer he is today. Who's to say he can't do it with Teddy.

The Dude 10-22-2019 02:49 PM

Re: Trade Teddy @ Max Value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 863174)
He's worth more than a 3rd but nobody is giving us a 2nd. Just keep him. I would not take a 3rd or any combination of lesser picks. I saw they Benched Brady late in the game. We could start doing that with confidence in some games which we probably should be doing.

Like In the Eagles regular season game last year. There was no reason for either QB to still be in the game mid way through the 4th.

The Dude 10-22-2019 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 863311)
It would be pretty foolish in my opinion if we traded Teddy without knowing
how Drew's thumb is going to be for the rest of the year. Right now Teddy is the same age that Drew was in 2006 when we first signed him. Payton developed Drew into the passer he is today. Who's to say he can't do it with Teddy.

Brees was way better than Teddy before he got here.

AsylumGuido 10-22-2019 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 863349)
Brees was way better than Teddy before he got here.

This is true. That's why I was so excited to be getting Brees. I had been watching Brees closely because Rivers went to the same school as me (NC State) and I was hoping he would get a chance to start, but this Brees guy was looking too good for him to get a chance.


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