How good is are the Patriots?

st thomas · 10-21-2019, 10:31 PM

Just can’t handle the praise these guys get. When the saints are playing better caliber teams .
Teams they played /records
Patriots —7-0. Teams they beat 11-27
Saints — 6-1. Teams they beat 25-22

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RailBoss · 10-21-2019, 11:28 PM

Most times teams playing the Patriots get out coached. That being said the Pats have had the luxury
of having arguably one of the best QB's in the league today. Not to mention no Patriot Player wants to
sit in Belichik's Office Monday morning and receive the wrath of Lucifer.

st thomas · 10-21-2019, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Most times teams playing the Patriots get out coached. That being said the Pats have had the luxury
of having arguably one of the best QB's in the league today. Not to mention no Patriot Player wants to
sit in Belichik's Office Monday morning and receive the wrath of Lucifer.

Lol

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Beastmode · 10-21-2019, 11:31 PM

They are very good. Probably get better with the looming trade deadline if they get another threat like AJ Green. The way they use their RB's is amazing. We don't have that luxury.

RockyMountainSaint · 10-21-2019, 11:35 PM

Six guaranteed wins in division every damn year certainly helps.
It is amazing how bad that div has been for decades.
They should be relegated.

The Pats are really good though.
Coaching and culcha.

CHA_CHING · 10-21-2019, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

Six guaranteed wins in division every damn year certainly helps.
It is amazing how bad that div has been for decades.
They should be relegated.

The Pats are really good though.
Coaching and culcha.

The AFC East is the only reason they are ever good. This tired cliche always comes up with them. "but the AFC East!" people say.....

Funny how this never explains how badly they mop the floor with the "good" teams of the AFC in the playoffs.... Every year, these super hyped up AFC teams go into Foxboro in the playoffs and get their skulls crushed, but people still beat the drum about the AFC East being the only reason New England is any good.

The Pats have a win percentage of over 78% in their non-divisional games, the highest in the NFL since 2001. But no, it's definitely the AFC East the only reason they are good.

As I have said many times before; this "they're only good cause their division sucks" argument actually has a point when you are looking at a team like Green Bay, Kansas City or even the Colts - these teams dominate their sorry ass divisions and then struggle in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers actually has a losing record on the road and when you remove Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota, his QBR drops to below average levels in those games. There's a reason GB, KC and Indy have so many embarrassing playoff losses in the past 15 years after going through their cupcake divisions. The Pats don't have this problem, they dominate in the post season.

CHA_CHING · 10-21-2019, 11:53 PM

Isn't it a good team's job to beat the ever loving **** out of garbage teams????

The Pats are doing it... The 49ers are doing it....

I hate this argument, cause they are blowing teams out. They're not barely getting past them by the skin of their teeth like Seattle has done with 4 out of their 5 wins by a combined 8 points total.

A.8Manning · 10-22-2019, 12:22 AM

good enough to go to SB and lose this time.. but no, it wont be to Saints

AsylumGuido · 10-22-2019, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

good enough to go to SB and lose this time.. but no, it wont be to Saints

Speaking of losers.

A.8Manning · 10-27-2019, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Speaking of losers.

i'll be absolutely correct on both things

10-21-2019, 10:31 PM	#1
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	How good is are the Patriots? Just can’t handle the praise these guys get. When the saints are playing better caliber teams . Teams they played /records Patriots —7-0. Teams they beat 11-27 Saints — 6-1. Teams they beat 25-22 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk AlanGoff likes this.

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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Most times teams playing the Patriots get out coached. That being said the Pats have had the luxury of having arguably one of the best QB's in the league today. Not to mention no Patriot Player wants to sit in Belichik's Office Monday morning and receive the wrath of Lucifer. st thomas likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Originally Posted by RailBoss Most times teams playing the Patriots get out coached. That being said the Pats have had the luxury of having arguably one of the best QB's in the league today. Not to mention no Patriot Player wants to sit in Belichik's Office Monday morning and receive the wrath of Lucifer. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk WillMacKenzie likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: How good is are the Patriots? They are very good. Probably get better with the looming trade deadline if they get another threat like AJ Green. The way they use their RB's is amazing. We don't have that luxury.
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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Six guaranteed wins in division every damn year certainly helps. It is amazing how bad that div has been for decades. They should be relegated. The Pats are really good though. Coaching and culcha. jnormand and st thomas like this.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint Six guaranteed wins in division every damn year certainly helps. It is amazing how bad that div has been for decades. They should be relegated. The Pats are really good though. Coaching and culcha. The AFC East is the only reason they are ever good. This tired cliche always comes up with them. "but the AFC East!" people say..... Funny how this never explains how badly they mop the floor with the "good" teams of the AFC in the playoffs.... Every year, these super hyped up AFC teams go into Foxboro in the playoffs and get their skulls crushed, but people still beat the drum about the AFC East being the only reason New England is any good. The Pats have a win percentage of over 78% in their non-divisional games, the highest in the NFL since 2001. But no, it's definitely the AFC East the only reason they are good. As I have said many times before; this "they're only good cause their division sucks" argument actually has a point when you are looking at a team like Green Bay, Kansas City or even the Colts - these teams dominate their sorry ass divisions and then struggle in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers actually has a losing record on the road and when you remove Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota, his QBR drops to below average levels in those games. There's a reason GB, KC and Indy have so many embarrassing playoff losses in the past 15 years after going through their cupcake divisions. The Pats don't have this problem, they dominate in the post season.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Isn't it a good team's job to beat the ever loving **** out of garbage teams???? The Pats are doing it... The 49ers are doing it.... I hate this argument, cause they are blowing teams out. They're not barely getting past them by the skin of their teeth like Seattle has done with 4 out of their 5 wins by a combined 8 points total. K Major likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: How good is are the Patriots? Originally Posted by A.8Manning good enough to go to SB and lose this time.. but no, it wont be to Saints Speaking of losers. st thomas likes this.

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