Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday

nola_swammi · 10-24-2019, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you talked to him and his doctors?

If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team?

Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future.

Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center

burningmetal · 10-24-2019, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future.

Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center

It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go".

Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it.

vpheughan · 10-24-2019, 07:32 AM

Yeah! Other people's comments are no reason to get all upset!!!

I'm as guilty of that as anyone!! Remember "Fan" is short for........

Fanatic: sometimes also termed aficionado or supporter, is a person who is enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody, such as a singer or band, a sport or a sports team, a genre, a politician, a book, a movie or an entertainer.

TheOak · 10-24-2019, 08:31 AM

Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

K Major · 10-24-2019, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

I'll admit, at times Andrus scares me as a blocker/pass protector.

He's played better over the last 2 weeks but he is what he is.

Rsanders24 · 10-24-2019, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go".

Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it.

Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

Cruize · 10-24-2019, 09:17 AM

The health risk will be the same whenever he returns to play. I would just rather they give him more time to practice and get back into the flow that way. Throwing him out there this week seems unnecessarily rushed. Save the incredible Dome energy that will mark his return for the Falcons. Put a 50 spot on them and rock the second half of the season.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

Show me the interview where Payton said this. I have seen EVERY interview and read EVERY story on this subject since the injury happened. I never heard that timeline. There may have been speculation on how long recovery would be given another method of repair, but since the process was identified and used the timeline was never longer than five to six weeks.

My perspective as a fan is that I always hope for the best, not expect the worst. The best that I could hope for was that the surgery would be successful and Brees could be back sooner rather than later because he gives us a better chance to keep winning than does Bridgewater.

EVERY game is important. A foolish loss to the Cardinals could cost us homefield advantage AND a shot at the Super Bowl. If the doctors, and the team, and Brees himself feel is ready to play then what would be the logic in holding him out? To calm the fears of ignorant (meaning unknowing) fans?

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It may not matter what you think, or what any of us think, because we don't have a clue how ready he is. Have you talked to him and his doctors?

If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team?

I seriously don't see anything "condescending" in this post. Since when do simple rhetorical questions hurt feeling?

Geez.

10-24-2019, 06:02 AM	#11
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you talked to him and his doctors? If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team? Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future. Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center RailBoss, Rsanders24 and homerj07 like this.

10-24-2019, 06:43 AM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by nola_swammi Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future. Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go". Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it.
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10-24-2019, 07:32 AM	#13
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Yeah! Other people's comments are no reason to get all upset!!! I'm as guilty of that as anyone!! Remember "Fan" is short for........ Fanatic: sometimes also termed aficionado or supporter, is a person who is enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody, such as a singer or band, a sport or a sports team, a genre, a politician, a book, a movie or an entertainer.
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10-24-2019, 08:31 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol. Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW. We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations. Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done. Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ? AsylumGuido and homerj07 like this.
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10-24-2019, 09:11 AM	#16
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by burningmetal It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go". Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it. Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game. I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

10-24-2019, 09:17 AM	#17
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday The health risk will be the same whenever he returns to play. I would just rather they give him more time to practice and get back into the flow that way. Throwing him out there this week seems unnecessarily rushed. Save the incredible Dome energy that will mark his return for the Falcons. Put a 50 spot on them and rock the second half of the season.
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10-24-2019, 09:33 AM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by TheOak Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol. Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW. We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations. Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done. Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ? That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

10-24-2019, 09:43 AM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game. I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan. Show me the interview where Payton said this. I have seen EVERY interview and read EVERY story on this subject since the injury happened. I never heard that timeline. There may have been speculation on how long recovery would be given another method of repair, but since the process was identified and used the timeline was never longer than five to six weeks. My perspective as a fan is that I always hope for the best, not expect the worst. The best that I could hope for was that the surgery would be successful and Brees could be back sooner rather than later because he gives us a better chance to keep winning than does Bridgewater. EVERY game is important. A foolish loss to the Cardinals could cost us homefield advantage AND a shot at the Super Bowl. If the doctors, and the team, and Brees himself feel is ready to play then what would be the logic in holding him out? To calm the fears of ignorant (meaning unknowing) fans?
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10-24-2019, 09:47 AM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It may not matter what you think, or what any of us think, because we don't have a clue how ready he is. Have you talked to him and his doctors? If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team? I seriously don't see anything "condescending" in this post. Since when do simple rhetorical questions hurt feeling? Geez.