Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday

TheOak · 10-24-2019, 07:31 AM

Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

K Major · 10-24-2019, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

I'll admit, at times Andrus scares me as a blocker/pass protector.

He's played better over the last 2 weeks but he is what he is.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?

That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

burningmetal · 10-24-2019, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.

dam1953 · 10-24-2019, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.

Agree. Treat it like a preseason game. Let TB do the heavy lifting and bring Brees in for a series or two to warm him up for the post bye home stretch.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.

And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG?

Give me Brees.

burningmetal · 10-24-2019, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG?

Give me Brees.

And if Brees plays and the Saints lose? Then what? Is a Brees a better QB than Teddy? Yeah. Is Drew unbeatable? No. Are the Saints undefeated without Drew? Yes. Do I have confidence that the Saints can beat the Cardinals without the guy who has been sitting for over a month? Yes. Why don't you?

Cruize · 10-24-2019, 08:17 AM

The health risk will be the same whenever he returns to play. I would just rather they give him more time to practice and get back into the flow that way. Throwing him out there this week seems unnecessarily rushed. Save the incredible Dome energy that will mark his return for the Falcons. Put a 50 spot on them and rock the second half of the season.

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2019, 09:34 AM

I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months. That’s the first time I have heard that. That said, if the doctors feel it is safe to play with the internal brace and external splint then why not play? It will be the same scenario two, three, or four weeks from now.

K Major · 10-24-2019, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months.

Just in time for the NFFCG & subsequent Super Bowl

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10-24-2019, 07:31 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol. Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW. We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations. Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done. Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ? AsylumGuido and homerj07 like this.
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10-24-2019, 08:02 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by TheOak Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ? I'll admit, at times Andrus scares me as a blocker/pass protector. He's played better over the last 2 weeks but he is what he is.

10-24-2019, 08:33 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by TheOak Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol. Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW. We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations. Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done. Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ? That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

10-24-2019, 05:50 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out. You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed. There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway. if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew. I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you. Rsanders24 likes this.
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10-24-2019, 06:01 PM	#5
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by burningmetal You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed. There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway. if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew. I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you. Agree. Treat it like a preseason game. Let TB do the heavy lifting and bring Brees in for a series or two to warm him up for the post bye home stretch.

10-24-2019, 06:04 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by burningmetal You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed. There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway. if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew. I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you. And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG? Give me Brees.

10-24-2019, 06:10 PM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG? Give me Brees. And if Brees plays and the Saints lose? Then what? Is a Brees a better QB than Teddy? Yeah. Is Drew unbeatable? No. Are the Saints undefeated without Drew? Yes. Do I have confidence that the Saints can beat the Cardinals without the guy who has been sitting for over a month? Yes. Why don't you? Rsanders24 likes this.

10-24-2019, 08:17 AM	#8
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday The health risk will be the same whenever he returns to play. I would just rather they give him more time to practice and get back into the flow that way. Throwing him out there this week seems unnecessarily rushed. Save the incredible Dome energy that will mark his return for the Falcons. Put a 50 spot on them and rock the second half of the season.
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10-24-2019, 09:34 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months. That’s the first time I have heard that. That said, if the doctors feel it is safe to play with the internal brace and external splint then why not play? It will be the same scenario two, three, or four weeks from now.

10-24-2019, 10:48 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,825 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months. Just in time for the NFFCG & subsequent Super Bowl .