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WhoDat!656 10-23-2019 04:08 PM

Drew Brees: The plan is to play on Sunday
 
When reporters asked Brees today whether he’ll play on Sunday, Brees answered, “That’s the plan.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...lay-on-sunday/

AsylumGuido 10-23-2019 04:26 PM

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I hope so. That would mean he is ready to go. The Cardinals have won three in a row and we need to do everything possible to remain with only the one loss.

CHA_CHING 10-23-2019 07:41 PM

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I don't think this is a good idea. I'd feel better if he comes back after the bye week.

Thirty3 10-23-2019 08:04 PM

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Plans change. Praying Drew stays healthy!

AsylumGuido 10-23-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 863558)
I don't think this is a good idea. I'd feel better if he comes back after the bye week.

It may not matter what you think, or what any of us think, because we don't have a clue how ready he is. Have you talked to him and his doctors?

If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team?

jeanpierre 10-23-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863536)
I hope so. That would mean he is ready to go. The Cardinals have won three in a row and we need to do everything possible to remain with only the one loss.

We really need homefield advantage if for no other reason than to exorcise our recent playoff demons...

dam1953 10-23-2019 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863536)
I hope so. That would mean he is ready to go. The Cardinals have won three in a row and we need to do everything possible to remain with only the one loss.

I know this is the NFL and wins are wins...but three in a row against the Bungles, Failclowns and Giants??? There needs to be a really big * next to each of those games.

Not quite the same as the Seattle, Dallas, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and Chicago...

Beastmode 10-23-2019 11:23 PM

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In practice he probably drilled a pass in Carr's helmet and that was it. Ready.

Crusader 10-24-2019 03:03 AM

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Good news! The Cardinals are coming around it seems and we need everything we can to stomp 'em.

SmashMouth 10-24-2019 04:18 AM

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3D chess here... Cards have more to prepare for.

nola_swammi 10-24-2019 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863563)
Have you talked to him and his doctors?

If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team?

Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future.


Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center

burningmetal 10-24-2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 863608)
Dayum Guido! He was just stating his opinion, why be condescending? I also believe they should wait after the bye cause I have teddy on my fantasy. Real talk, it will benefit more since the hand just healed to just give it time after the strenuous therapy he endured. Plus, I want the coaches to thoroughly examine teddy to see if he's the future.


Win or lose will not hinder the season. Remember, the hopes were that the saints could just win 3 games so Brees could carry us over, 5-0, let's ride this wave to the bye. What if brees do start and we lose. Don't need anyone going through the bye second guessing and if we lose with Bridgewater, the team will be just that motivated and hungry knowing Brees will be back under the center

It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go".

Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it.

vpheughan 10-24-2019 06:32 AM

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Yeah! Other people's comments are no reason to get all upset!!!

I'm as guilty of that as anyone!! Remember "Fan" is short for........

Fanatic: sometimes also termed aficionado or supporter, is a person who is enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody, such as a singer or band, a sport or a sports team, a genre, a politician, a book, a movie or an entertainer.

TheOak 10-24-2019 07:31 AM

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Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?:bng:

K Major 10-24-2019 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 863626)
Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?:bng:

I'll admit, at times Andrus scares me as a blocker/pass protector.

He's played better over the last 2 weeks but he is what he is.

Rsanders24 10-24-2019 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 863617)
It's his thing to condescend. I had a conversation with him about this topic a couple of weeks back. I have no idea whether Brees will be 100% healed by Sunday, and I won't claim to have any such knowledge. I would simply hope that if he is NOT fully healed, that they won't allow him to play because he is "good enough to go".

Guido's assumption was then, and still is today that Drew WILL be 100% if he plays. But there is no possible way to know that ahead of time, and yet he is quick to point out that nobody knows, and no one has spoken with the doctors... Duh. That's exactly MY point. And that's why we, as fans, are free to speculate and leave our opinions here. Otherwise, what the heck are we all doing in here? Of course none of our opinions "matter". I don't know how many times I've argued that condescending remark by reminding him that FOOTBALL doesn't actually matter. Sports, as a whole, do not matter, and yet, we tie ourselves up in it.

Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

Cruize 10-24-2019 08:17 AM

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The health risk will be the same whenever he returns to play. I would just rather they give him more time to practice and get back into the flow that way. Throwing him out there this week seems unnecessarily rushed. Save the incredible Dome energy that will mark his return for the Falcons. Put a 50 spot on them and rock the second half of the season. :)

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 863626)
Ill throw my left brain dominant emotionless logic into the ring lol.

Drew, Payton, team doctors, Dr. Shin (the hand sepcialist) - They all KNOW things. Drew taking the field on Sunday is based on what they KNOW.

We as fans - Know sh1t on a good day. We are wanting Drew on the bench because of emotional fear, fantasy football needs, interest in other players... a bunch of personally driven motivations.

Drew's hand injury is a ligament, not a muscle or tendon. Ligament attaches bone to bone not muscle and healing/fully healed is different than a muscular injury. There is no strengthening, its a reattachment and healing. I assume Doctors say healing is done.

Now for my Right Brained emotional concern... Is fu34ing Andrus Damn Peat ready for Drew to be back behind him ?:bng:

That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863634)
Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

Show me the interview where Payton said this. I have seen EVERY interview and read EVERY story on this subject since the injury happened. I never heard that timeline. There may have been speculation on how long recovery would be given another method of repair, but since the process was identified and used the timeline was never longer than five to six weeks.

My perspective as a fan is that I always hope for the best, not expect the worst. The best that I could hope for was that the surgery would be successful and Brees could be back sooner rather than later because he gives us a better chance to keep winning than does Bridgewater.

EVERY game is important. A foolish loss to the Cardinals could cost us homefield advantage AND a shot at the Super Bowl. If the doctors, and the team, and Brees himself feel is ready to play then what would be the logic in holding him out? To calm the fears of ignorant (meaning unknowing) fans?

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863563)
It may not matter what you think, or what any of us think, because we don't have a clue how ready he is. Have you talked to him and his doctors?

If he is completely ready why should he not start? Why even take a chance at being a weaker team?

I seriously don't see anything "condescending" in this post. Since when do simple rhetorical questions hurt feeling?

Geez.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 09:01 AM

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Once again, I am not saying that Brees will absolutely play. What I AM saying is that if he deemed ready then he absolutely should, and will, play.

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 09:34 AM

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I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months. That’s the first time I have heard that. That said, if the doctors feel it is safe to play with the internal brace and external splint then why not play? It will be the same scenario two, three, or four weeks from now.

rezburna 10-24-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863634)
Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

Let him play. We need to evaluate him.

TheOak 10-24-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863641)
I seriously don't see anything "condescending" in this post. Since when do simple rhetorical questions hurt feeling?

Geez.

:rolleyes:

We share the same birthday and it would seem our font is interpreted similarly.

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 863667)
We share the same birthday and it would seem our font is interpreted similarly.

:lolup:

SaintsBro 10-24-2019 10:32 AM

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I like this smokescreen a lot....keep 'em guessing! I'm going to the Dome Sunday expecting to see Teddy, but it's not like I'm a D coordinator for Arizona and my job is on the line if Drew starts and I'm not prepared for him....

foreverfan 10-24-2019 10:45 AM

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Payroll just said "If you see how much we are paying him... he is going to play".

K Major 10-24-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863661)
I just heard Brees say that it won’t be fully healed for three months.

Just in time for the NFFCG & subsequent Super Bowl :bng:.

K Major 10-24-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 863568)
We really need homefield advantage if for no other reason than to exorcise our recent playoff demons...

Agreed but this 2019 team can win anywhere.

It's been a while since I've seen such a mentally tough group of guys assembled in NO.

Rugby Saint II 10-24-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 863677)
Agreed but this 2019 team can win anywhere.

It's been a while since I've seen such a mentally tough group of guys assembled in NO.

True Dat! This is a Super bowl team.

Rsanders24 10-24-2019 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863640)
Show me the interview where Payton said this. I have seen EVERY interview and read EVERY story on this subject since the injury happened. I never heard that timeline. There may have been speculation on how long recovery would be given another method of repair, but since the process was identified and used the timeline was never longer than five to six weeks.

My perspective as a fan is that I always hope for the best, not expect the worst. The best that I could hope for was that the surgery would be successful and Brees could be back sooner rather than later because he gives us a better chance to keep winning than does Bridgewater.

EVERY game is important. A foolish loss to the Cardinals could cost us homefield advantage AND a shot at the Super Bowl. If the doctors, and the team, and Brees himself feel is ready to play then what would be the logic in holding him out? To calm the fears of ignorant (meaning unknowing) fans?

Here you go! This is one article when he was interviewed. There is another one that I’m looking for.

https://wgno.com/2019/10/23/brees-on...-well-see/amp/

And so what happens if he has a setback or isn’t truly ready and has an off game due to inaccurate passes. I don’t know what else Bridgewater needs to do. All I wanted from him was to take care of the ball and not cost us a game. He has done that and more. Also MT numbers are the same, maybe slightly better per game with Bridgewater so far. We will see what decision is made on Sunday but it seems that you have not faith in Bridgewater even though he is undefeated so far this season and getting better each week.

burningmetal 10-24-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863634)
Payton said in an interview that it take 3 months to fully heal from this injury. So no, Brees will not be 100%. It takes 6-8 weeks with the stabilizing strip to regain the strength and stability to have control. As a speculating fan, I would rather Brees take the extra two weeks to continue the rehabilitation and strengthening without the risk of a setback from this game.

I would rather come of out this game saying we will have Brees ready for Atlanta than to rush him back and they question if we rushed him back if he doesn’t have a good game. That’s my perspective as a fan.

That's my perspective, as well.

burningmetal 10-24-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863638)
That's EXACTLY the points I have been trying to make. I have pointed out that the doctors KNOW when the healing is finished and they KNOW that when Brees is ready there is no reason to keep him out.

You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.

dam1953 10-24-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 863754)
You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.


Agree. Treat it like a preseason game. Let TB do the heavy lifting and bring Brees in for a series or two to warm him up for the post bye home stretch.

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863750)
Here you go! This is one article when he was interviewed. There is another one that I’m looking for.

https://wgno.com/2019/10/23/brees-on...-well-see/amp/

And so what happens if he has a setback or isn’t truly ready and has an off game due to inaccurate passes. I don’t know what else Bridgewater needs to do. All I wanted from him was to take care of the ball and not cost us a game. He has done that and more. Also MT numbers are the same, maybe slightly better per game with Bridgewater so far. We will see what decision is made on Sunday but it seems that you have not faith in Bridgewater even though he is undefeated so far this season and getting better each week.

You said Payton said in an interview, not Brees and NOT today.

And Bridgewater has improved every week, but he is still not close to Brees in his ability to hit the receivers. And, no, I don't have anywhere near as much confidence in Teddy that I have in Brees. We need every game.

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 863754)
You and Oak are both using the same faulty logic to argue your points. It's true that the doctors know MORE about what's going on than we do, as fans, but first of all, doctors make mistakes, and secondly, it is NOT "necessarily" true that IF they let him play this week he is therefore fully healed.

There have been countless instances in the history of sports injuries where a guy was given "a go" to play, because the player really wanted to come back, and the doctors thought he was far enough along that it wasn't a big risk... Only for a major setback to occur, anyway.

if this were the playoffs, the risk might be worth it. Instead, it's Arizona, and there is a bye week immediately following. Yes the Cardinals have won three straight, but no, they haven't beaten a team who is close to being good. The Saints seem to be doing just fine for the time being, without Drew.

I will say yet again that I have no idea what percentage Drew is at in his healing process. I'm merely stating that I would HOPE that IF if isn't fully healthy, they wouldn't bring him back needlessly. That opinion is 100% derived from the bad decisions I have seen teams make in the past. All we will know as fans is that Drew will either play, or he won't. We won't know how healthy he is, and no one is going to tell us. That's why we have opinions. No one is trying to state fact, except you.

And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG?

Give me Brees.

Rsanders24 10-24-2019 06:05 PM

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Brees also said that the surgeon said that he has to also wear an external brace on the thumb to provide additional stability to the joint until it is 100% healed. So no, he isn’t 100%. Game pressure is different than practice pressure.

No one hear isn’t looking forward to Brees coming back. Some are looking further down the road. I’m looking at the rest of the season and the playoffs. With a healthy Brees and the way all three phases of our team is to playing I feel we can go anywhere and win. Even if its the NFCCG on the road.

burningmetal 10-24-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863763)
And if they play Teddy and we lose? And we lose the homefield advantage? And we lose on the road in the NFCCG?

Give me Brees.

And if Brees plays and the Saints lose? Then what? Is a Brees a better QB than Teddy? Yeah. Is Drew unbeatable? No. Are the Saints undefeated without Drew? Yes. Do I have confidence that the Saints can beat the Cardinals without the guy who has been sitting for over a month? Yes. Why don't you?

Rsanders24 10-24-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 863760)
You said Payton said in an interview, not Brees and NOT today.

And Bridgewater has improved every week, but he is still not close to Brees in his ability to hit the receivers. And, no, I don't have anywhere near as much confidence in Teddy that I have in Brees. We need every game.

I read one where Payton mentioned it also. And either way, it’s 3 months no matter if you, Payton, Brees, or the surgeon says it.

Glad to see you grasping at straws as to who said it. LOL!

AsylumGuido 10-24-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 863764)
Brees also said that the surgeon said that he has to also wear an external brace on the thumb to provide additional stability to the joint until it is 100% healed. So no, he isn’t 100%. Game pressure is different than practice pressure.

No one hear isn’t looking forward to Brees coming back. Some are looking further down the road. I’m looking at the rest of the season and the playoffs. With a healthy Brees and the way all three phases of our team is to playing I feel we can go anywhere and win. Even if its the NFCCG on the road.

I agree with some of that, but I feel we need to be at home in the NFCCG. If Brees plays this weekend then he can. If he doesn't, he can't. What I am saying is that if he can he gives us the best chance and I hope to hell he can.


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