49ers are scary good

CHA_CHING · 10-27-2019, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

If we want to talk about the luck of playing in bad divisions the Saints are super lucky

Panthers - meh

Tampa- The media best team on paper and surprise package each year

And the Falcons suck more than the AFC East,NFC East combined, and i love it

Thank you and I love it too.

I've done data on the divisions over the years and the talk about the AFC East being "historically bad" is complete bull****. However, it IS true about the AFC South during the 2000s, and it's also true that no other team is really benefiting from crappy divisions more so than the Packers, Chiefs and Colts. They're the teams that barely go 10-6 or 11-5 and end up relying on those 5 or 6 division wins while struggling with their non-divisional opponents. Green Bay made the playoffs at 8-7-1 in 2014, thanks to 5 wins against their division. But I guess cause they have TEH RODGERZZZZ as Pats fans jokingly call them, they're never criticized for beating on their crap division and then laying an egg in the playoffs.

For the AFC South during the 2000s; for most of those years, the Colts had an expansion team to use as a punching bag (Houston), a crappy team that never did anything (Jacksonville), and a team coached by Jeff Fisher that would never go anywhere (Tennessee). It took Houston until 2015 or 2016 to finally win a game on the road in Indy. The Colts were still a force though during the Manning era. They more so benefited from a bad division between 2012 to 2015. The 2012 team had no business even being in the playoffs with what was the worst point differential of an 11-5 team in NFL history. Of that record, they were 5-1 vs their division, which is why they made the playoffs. They got destroyed by Baltimore in the first round.

The AFC South is truly the worst division in the NFL since the division realignment. It became a "wide open" division when the Colts declined but all it took was Indy to get their **** together and yet they still dominate that division. Even when Houston gets the division title, they still blow it in the playoffs and are no real threat to the Colts.

A team that goes 5-1 or 6-0 in their division and still at least is 12-4 or 13-3 and wins a playoff team, don't really benefit from a bad division.

However, teams that do go 10-6 or 11-5 thanks to a 5-1 or 6-0 record vs their division and then 5-5 the rest of the way through? Yep, those are the teams that do benefit from bad divisions (Green Bay in 2015 and 2016, K.C. in 3 of their last 4 playoff years). These are also the teams that put up embarrassing losses in the playoffs AT HOME.

I know we have a weak NFC South this year and I'm loving our dominance but I don't think we or the Patriots really benefit from it as much as people like to make that claim.

10-27-2019, 11:40 PM	#11
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: 49ers are scary good Originally Posted by lee909 If we want to talk about the luck of playing in bad divisions the Saints are super lucky Panthers - meh Tampa- The media best team on paper and surprise package each year And the Falcons suck more than the AFC East,NFC East combined, and i love it Thank you and I love it too. I've done data on the divisions over the years and the talk about the AFC East being "historically bad" is complete bull**. However, it IS true about the AFC South during the 2000s, and it's also true that no other team is really benefiting from crappy divisions more so than the Packers, Chiefs and Colts. They're the teams that barely go 10-6 or 11-5 and end up relying on those 5 or 6 division wins while struggling with their non-divisional opponents. Green Bay made the playoffs at 8-7-1 in 2014, thanks to 5 wins against their division. But I guess cause they have TEH RODGERZZZZ as Pats fans jokingly call them, they're never criticized for beating on their crap division and then laying an egg in the playoffs. For the AFC South during the 2000s; for most of those years, the Colts had an expansion team to use as a punching bag (Houston), a crappy team that never did anything (Jacksonville), and a team coached by Jeff Fisher that would never go anywhere (Tennessee). It took Houston until 2015 or 2016 to finally win a game on the road in Indy. The Colts were still a force though during the Manning era. They more so benefited from a bad division between 2012 to 2015. The 2012 team had no business even being in the playoffs with what was the worst point differential of an 11-5 team in NFL history. Of that record, they were 5-1 vs their division, which is why they made the playoffs. They got destroyed by Baltimore in the first round. The AFC South is truly the worst division in the NFL since the division realignment. It became a "wide open" division when the Colts declined but all it took was Indy to get their ** together and yet they still dominate that division. Even when Houston gets the division title, they still blow it in the playoffs and are no real threat to the Colts. A team that goes 5-1 or 6-0 in their division and still at least is 12-4 or 13-3 and wins a playoff team, don't really benefit from a bad division. However, teams that do go 10-6 or 11-5 thanks to a 5-1 or 6-0 record vs their division and then 5-5 the rest of the way through? Yep, those are the teams that do benefit from bad divisions (Green Bay in 2015 and 2016, K.C. in 3 of their last 4 playoff years). These are also the teams that put up embarrassing losses in the playoffs AT HOME. I know we have a weak NFC South this year and I'm loving our dominance but I don't think we or the Patriots really benefit from it as much as people like to make that claim. st thomas likes this.