WR, will the Saints wait and try to take a flyer on Josh Gordon
 

So far there has been a bunch of rumors surrounding the Saints and possibly adding another WR. However, their current team has been built mainly through the draft and they know the importance of building through the draft. So I am sure they are reluctant to spend picks on an impactful receiver.

I even posted about a rumor of a possibility of AJ Green.

Based on what I know (and it isn't much) is that once Gordon makes it out of IR (2 weeks) he is not subject to waiver and then getting snagged by a lower record team.

Would it not make sense for him to go somewhere that he could make the Patriots regret not keeping him around? Wouldn't it make sense for us to sign him for the year and see how it works out if he is indeed healthy?

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The locker room could withstand Gordon for 12 games.

Can Gordon live within the rules?

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I had to pull up stats/production on Josh.

Gordon caught 41 passes for 737 (18 ypc) and 4 TD in 12 games. FWIW, Josh's 18 ypc last season is higher than any season Ginn has ever had.

I'd welcome that type of production in New Orleans + we wouldn't give up draft picks.

I'm just at the point of "why not" on talented guys who can help MT and this team . Carr, Hogan, Humphrey's aren't those guys.

I know some will say Bill Belichick is the Yoda of coaching but I'd counter that and say Sean Payton is a better master mind on offense.

What's the risk would it be to sign him? If he's close to being healthy and no "pending" suspension ... take a chance.

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ESPN: Josh Gordon to return from IR, be released in 1-2 weeks

New England Patriots receiver Josh Gordon, who is on injured reserve, expects to be ready in one to two weeks, sources told ESPN's Josina Anderson on Saturday.

The Patriots used the minor designation for his placement on injured reserve Wednesday, signifying a lesser injury. That means the team has to release him upon his return to health.

If this happens after Tuesday's trade deadline, Gordon would be subject to waivers and other teams could put in a claim for him -- and he could be on a roster at that time.

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Waivers? Oh hell, we won't get him. Saints are practically at the bottom of the waiver order.

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Really don’t think we are in as bad of shape as some think. Taysom has developed into a legit receiver and I think you will see more of him than we ever have. I can see the trick plays taking a back seat to a more permanent role. We know what we have in Teddy so there’s no reason to “save” Taysom.
Save the capital and role with him.

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Agree on Taysom. He has to be one of the fastest "tight ends" in the game.

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Then why did the Saints make calls to Elway/Broncos for a very good slot WR in Emmanuel Sanders ? The front office aren't content with what we have not named Mike Thomas. Especially with the uncertainty of Tre & Cook.

Evan Engram, AJ Green, Golden Tate, Bobby Boucher, Jr. ... someone is getting a phone call to discuss trade options.

Tre has been out for almost a month, Kirkwood is on IR & no clue on how injured Cook is or when he will return at full strength.

If you lose Michael Thomas .... boy.

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Actually, it's the other way around. The Patriots are purposely waiting until AFTER the trade deadline so Gordon WOULD be subject to waivers. If they released him earlier he would be a free agent and available to the highest bidder. Belichick is making sure he doesn't go to a team that would be a post-season threat. Extremely smart move. Nobody plays the system better than New England.

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Can't see him being available to the Saints on waivers and you have to wonder why a Pats team needing receivers is willing to just cut him. Something going on behind the scences

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I like the idea of another receiver on the roster who can take pressure off Thomas. No one on the roster has been able to do that yet. We need a slot receiver or a tight end badly. Most casual observes can see that would help the other aspects of our offense.

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more likely Saints can give 1st rd but then it be high 20s or 32.

So they be giving up 1st and 4th for a good WR most likely. Then may end up shipping someone to wherever.

Wish we could get Sanders, but may be steep. I dunno if I be sold on Gordon or Tate.

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Gordon is done.

Have you guys seen how thin the Pats are at the WR position? They'd keep him if he still had juice in the tank.

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Gordon caught 41 passes for 737 (18 ypc) and 4 TD in 12 games for 2018. 18 yards per catch is the average.

How is that done? :confused:

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He isn't done ... not in the league. He may be done by not being there when Belichick needed him. Bill is not a patient man and quickly moves on from players regularly.

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Now I would agree with that. See Cameron Meredith and Antonio Brown.

But for the poster to say "done" from a production stand point is false.

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That's 2018... how is he in 2019? Gordon didn't even finish the 2018 season.

If the Patriots don't want you, there is a reason to be cautious...

They are in desperate need of WRs too.

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Of course there is reason to be cautious. That's why we should avoid him. It isn't because he is over, though, as a productive player. It is because he doesn't "toe the line". Payton has the same philosophy as does Belichick. Team chemistry is important to both.

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20 receptions 287 (9 yard LESS than Ginn and 2 games less played) yards 1 TD @ 14 yards per reception.

That's better than anyone not named MThomas.

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I don't think Gordon fit their offense. He is a home run guy, who has a better all around game than someone like Ted Ginn, but he's still a home run guy. That Patriots offense has become exceedingly dink and dunk oriented, and I suspect Gordon wasn't adjusting well to what they were trying to do.

Which probably irritated Belichick and Brady, and in turn might have led to some off the field issues between Gordon and members of the team. And if that is the case, it's not hard to understand why they would let him go. Gordon can definitely still play, he just needs to be in the right offense.

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Some of you guys need to quit using the Patriots as examples.

They are OUTLIERS. No other franchise can do what they do consistently.

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If the Pats are cutting bait with him as he's just about to get healthy and with their need at WR...there's something going on. I wouldn't be surprised to find out ANOTHER suspension about to come down, or a legal scandal or something.

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Listening to some talking heads on NFLSirius - Patriots are going to wait to release him so that they dont have to face him in the SB with us, that puts him subject to waivers and we will never see him.. Non starter

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stretch, they be more worried about facing him in say Baltimore or KC than any team in the NFC.

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Gordon isn’t a bad locker room guy. He just likes weed.

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Well, I obviously misheard the waivers part of the story. Granted I am in ATL and the traffic here blows and can never pay too much attention to the radio.

MT needs some help, he is catching passes at a record pace, and just like Kamara, I don't want to see him over utilized and end up hurting the team. There is no TB or LM behind Thomas.

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Meh. They guy cant stay on the field because he stays high as ****. He actually was gonna get suspended again to start this season but somehow got the commissioner to drop it.

My thing is this, if the Pat's don't want him mid season, wtf is wrong with the guy. He was making catches and seemed to be doing his job. Soooooo.....?????

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No worries ... Pats aren't releasing him from IR until after the trade deadline expires.

We are at the bottom of the waiver order anyway.

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GORDON? Flash or Jeff? :rofl:

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I would like Gordon. Too bad we can't work a deal with NE

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Gordon has issues that caused NE to go in another direction!

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Belichick is gaming the system as usual but mark my word the Patriots do indeed suck. They have yet to play a contender. Offensively they are a trainwreck. Can't move the ball. D takes advantage of horrible teams.

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It's hard to say they suck, even when they aren't playing good teams, when they are undefeated. But they are very unimpressive, offensively, I agree.

We'll see how far their defense can carry them. They always seem to find a way to snake their way through the playoffs, even if it's nothing but smoke and mirrors, or a brand new tuck rule being enforced at the most convenient of times.

So while it wouldn't surprise me in the least for them to get back to the Super Bowl, I think they'll have a very difficult time with any team they face in the playoffs.

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Wait until they face good defenses and offensives. Their offense is horrible. Watched them all season and if not for the defense they have nothing. Looking forward to playing them. Saints are a much better team. Pats punts the ball an uncommon amount of times. No ability to move the ball.

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The Patriots suck? Lol, c'mon Beast.

Statistically (you can only play teams on the schedule) are very good defensively through 7 games. They have arguably the greatest coach ever with a HOF QB & undefeated.

I can somewhat understand your reasoning on not playing anyone however they are embarrassing teams they've already beaten.

Let's see what happens going forward. Ravens, Eagles, Cowboys, Texans and Chiefs are on the schedule and playoff caliber teams.

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They do not suck. I have watched all their games though and something is off with their offense specifically. It stalls really bad. The defensive is constantly bailing them out like several times in a row. We move the ball much better even with Teddy.

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Gotcha.

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Taysom is like a TE/WR/QB/RB mix. With Cook/Hill/Thomas/Kamara/Ginn we have a hell of a receiving coor.

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If that cat goes back on the hop will we be responsible for his recovery ?


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