Would A Deal For Dez Do It?
 

Just a thought since no deals were done. Color Saintfan interested...

https://whodatdish.com/2019/10/29/ne...de-dez-bryant/

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No team wanted Dez at all last year. We only waited half way through the season once we got desperate.

I'd rather trade for AJ Green. Dez is done.

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Today was the deadline. They can't trade for Green, or anyone now.

Dez could maybe, at least, give the Saints an extra red zone target even if he doesn't help much between the 20's. If Dez took the roster spot of someone like Austin Carr, would you say the Saints are worse off?

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Dez is dead.

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I’d take Dez over Carr..

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The Saints WR depth is a problem.

I hope this doesn't come back to bite us in the post season.

The only guy I would even consider signing off the couch is Dez but that's just me.

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I have a feeling they are expecting Smith and Cook to be that depth.

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At this point, I think Sean Payton & his coaches may have more faith in recently promoted Krishawn Hogan (played in 10 snaps vs Cards) than any outsider and he's cheap. Slightly bigger & faster than Dez ... potentially a red zone target.

I could be wrong but I don't believe Dez is in the Cards for NO.

BTW Baldy broke down a Saints run play where Latavius Murray had a very nice run. The key block was set by Krishawn which allowed such a substantial gain. He definitely helped his cause this past Sunday.

If anyone has access to that play, please post it. It's worth showing.

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Gordon, Dez, AB, Crabtree, Marshall, Garcon... lot of flotsam floating around out there if someone is desperate

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I find it hilarious that the Saints are so solid in 2019 that the fanbase is reduced to discussing the 3rd or 4th wide receiver position as if it's going to be the difference between going far in the playoffs or going home early.

CGM lives up to his twitter handle. D-coordinators game plan and scheme to limit Thomas' production, yet they fail week after week. That's because we have backs that catch the ball, and tight ends that catch the ball, and other wide receivers that catch the ball, and the Transformer (T. Hill) to catch the ball. As someone pointed out, Sunday pass catchers for the Saints who were not CGM had 23 catches for 260 yards and 2 TDs.

I just wonder with that type of production, why so many are being Chicken Little and thinking that the sky is falling because the Saints with their embarrasment of riches don't have a second #1 receiver on the roster.

SFIAH

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Taysom is like a TE/WR mix. With Cook/Hill/Thomas/Kamara/Ginn we have a hell of a receiving coor.

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You may need to prove you can block... SP sent Grambeaux packing a while back. :bng:

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Well we can’t forget the upgrade we desperately need for a backup to the backup long snapper on the practice squad.

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Let's see. We're betting that Cook who has not been impressive will come back from injury and ball out. Tre' smith has been hit and miss. Mostly miss before his injury. I don't feel comfortable with either as the next man up.

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As much as it would cost us (not much money & no draft picks!) Dez is worth a look.

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Sounds all good and dandy but Tre', Cook and Kirk need to get healthy and back on the field. Injured guys can't help us in late January.

It still stings for me but last year's NFCCG Wade Phillips game planned effectively to take Mike out of the equation. That forced a ton on Kamara but we had no threat deep. That game ultimately became closer than it needed to be and the refs took matters into their own hand.

Tre needs to get healthy & back on the playing field ... same goes for Jared. Michael Thomas is awesome, well worth the coin but a competent D coordinator will game plan to eliminate him in the playoffs. Others must step up.

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This is exactly the false equivalency that I'm talking about. We're not waiting for anyone to "ball out". 3rd, 4th, and 5th receiving options generally do not "ball out".

Carr has been in nearly 200 snaps this season. Does anyone think that if he was not doing the job that CSP assigned to him that he would be that involved in the offense?

Receiving production for the Saints is CGM, backs, Ginn, and tight ends in just about that order. The only balling out that anyone needs to do is to catch the ball when they are targeted. And as I stated in my previous posts when 8 receivers not named CGM catch 23 balls for 260 yards in a game, then each of those guys are doing their job without balling out.

SFIAH

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I think the Saints have been looking and if they thought he could do anything worth a damn they would have signed him by now.
There is zero doubt in my mind that they haven’t been aware of where he is right now.

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So would I.

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Don't forget that the knock on Bryant in Dallas was his inefficiency in the route running. That would go over like the proverbial turd in a punch bowl with Sean Payton.

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Apparently it went over just fine with Payton, because he signed him last year, remember?

He's a year older and coming off that injury now, so we don't know what Payton thinks of him now.

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Precisely.

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I would take Dez because he wanted to be a Saint so bad. Under a Coach like Curtis Johnson, he would crazy complement Michael Thomas.

But if the Saints really want to make it back to and win the SuperBowl, they need to take the money they would pay Dez find a silent investor to create a retirement fund for the referees and shuttle some millions of dollars into it. We need something to offset the gOD-dELL factor.

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I commend the Saints front office for at least attempting to upgrade the roster @ WR not named MT.

Let's see what Tre brings (assuming he's back vs ATL) in 2 weeks. I thought Jared would kill it up the seam route but unfortunately he hasn't performed as well as I thought and now he's injured. You'll need another red zone target when the playoffs starts.

I find it amazing that Brees tore his UCL which required surgery is back and playing at a high level before Tre and Kirkwood.

I'm still skeptical about other WR"s.

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Receivers not named Michael and Ginn have 8 catches through 8 games.

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How many targets is the real question. If they're not targeted much, there is the real answer.

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But why aren't they targeted though? No separation? No trust? The inability to get open maybe? Remember when Brees was forcing it up to Jimmy Dickens in double/triple coverage? Bad things happen.

Smash - until I see anyone outside of Ted & Mike being productive on Sundays, I'm skeptical of our WR core. I hope Tre', Cook, Kirwood and Hogan prove me wrong though. It's a major area of vulnerability, and a risk to not have a guy that can play behind MT13... The FO knows it... and has tried for 2 years to unsuccessfully address it.

People want to ignore it, that's cool but every time Can't Guard Mike gets up slowly :couch:.... ok.

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Good point. BTW according to Pro Football Reference it seems like it's 9 receptions: 5 by TQS, 3 by Harris, 1 by Carr. That's on 12 total targets for 75% effiency.

So my question is when the 3rd WR position is being targeted 4.4% of the time in the first 8 games, then truly how important could it be to the overall tenor of the offense?

BTW do any of T. Hill's 8 catches on 11 targets for 3 TDs count in this measure? I mean he lined up as a slot receiver on that TD against the Cardinals right?

SFIAH

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And both Kamara and Murray have lined up as a receiver several times.