Panthers add Gardner

papz · 07-27-2005, 09:18 PM

The Panthers just made a trade with the Washington Redskins for Rod Gardner. He definately would have been a better fit here in New Orleans than Az Hakim.

This now gives Carolina 3 pretty good receivers with good speed and most importantly... hands.

saintswhodi · 07-27-2005, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by papz

The Panthers just made a trade with the Washington Redskins for Rod Gardner. He definately would have been a better fit here in New Orleans than Az Hakim. This now gives Carolina 3 pretty good receivers with good speed and most importantly... hands.

Wow. Not only are they healthy, but now they have Gardner. Jake made Muhsin Muhammed relevant again, he will prob do the same for Rod. He is in the same mold as Muhammed, a tall receiver who can stretch the field. This is not good news.

saintswhodi · 07-27-2005, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Wow. Not only are they healthy, but now they have Gardner. Jake made Muhsin Muhammed relevant again, he will prob do the same for Rod. He is in the same mold as Muhammed, a tall receiver who can stretch the field. This is not good news.

Wow, Jake made Muhammed relevant again? "wow" I guess Muhammed must'a been surprised being the Panthers #1 WR their entire franchise exsistence to find out that Jake made him relevant. And now you think he'll do the same for Rod? Ooh my-God! this just scares the "f" out of me, cause now the fear is what excuse will ya'll use now, when Jake screws it up?

Dude, are you really this out of the loop? Steve Smith was the Panthers number one receiver when they went to the Superbowl, AND just the year before they were thinking of cutting Muhammed due to his injuries and big contract. HE hadn't had a 100 catch or 1000 yard season, nor played a full year in 2 years before Jake arrived. Quit being a hater and try to act like you know what you are talking about when you hate on people for no reason. Please for all our sakes, go buy a clue before you mouth off.

BlackandBlue · 07-27-2005, 11:03 PM

One bad year, and two good years....for a #2.
Relax saintswhodi, I would have posted something about Smith being their #1 receiver, whether Muhammed had been retained or not, but you beat me to it.

saintswhodi · 07-27-2005, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by BlackandBlue

One bad year, and two good years....for a #2.
Relax saintswhodi, I would have posted something about Smith being their #1 receiver, whether Muhammed had been retained or not, but you beat me to it.

No prob BNB. I am chill.

papz · 07-28-2005, 12:47 AM

Yes... Smith was their #1 receiver til he got hurt. If you can actually remember prior to Smith being injured, Carolina was going to put Muhammed on the chopping block. Prior to his fantastic season last year, he was known to be a inconsistent ball dropper. Let's see how he does in the Windy city with Rex Grossman as his quarterback. In that cold weather, I definately can see him revert back to his old habits.

papz · 07-28-2005, 12:51 AM

One more thing...

2001 Carolina Panthers 11 11 50 585 11.7 43 1 7 1 26
2002 Carolina Panthers 14 14 63 823 13.1 42 3 17 1 40
2003 Carolina Panthers 15 15 54 837 15.5 60 3 18 2 37

That's hardly #1 receiver type numbers...

Something else that I found pretty interesting... not only did Smith have a better 2003 year than Muhsin, he had a better 2002 year than him also.

saintswhodi · 07-28-2005, 10:07 AM

Man, it must be nice to actually check a fact before flying off the handle. Way to be considerate of others papz and looking up your info before attempting to check someone. Good job.

Euphoria · 07-28-2005, 10:46 AM

good WR... just put craft on him, its all good.

WhoDat · 07-28-2005, 04:46 PM

Man, it must be nice to actually check a fact before flying off the handle.

Yeah, some people don't do that very well... some people who will remain nameless... but have posted to this thread. You know who you are. LOL

07-27-2005, 10:56 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: RE: Re: Panthers add Gardner Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Wow. Not only are they healthy, but now they have Gardner. Jake made Muhsin Muhammed relevant again, he will prob do the same for Rod. He is in the same mold as Muhammed, a tall receiver who can stretch the field. This is not good news. Wow, Jake made Muhammed relevant again? "wow" I guess Muhammed must'a been surprised being the Panthers #1 WR their entire franchise exsistence to find out that Jake made him relevant. And now you think he'll do the same for Rod? Ooh my-God! this just scares the "f" out of me, cause now the fear is what excuse will ya'll use now, when Jake screws it up? Dude, are you really this out of the loop? Steve Smith was the Panthers number one receiver when they went to the Superbowl, AND just the year before they were thinking of cutting Muhammed due to his injuries and big contract. HE hadn't had a 100 catch or 1000 yard season, nor played a full year in 2 years before Jake arrived. Quit being a hater and try to act like you know what you are talking about when you hate on people for no reason. Please for all our sakes, go buy a clue before you mouth off.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackandBlue One bad year, and two good years....for a #2. Relax saintswhodi, I would have posted something about Smith being their #1 receiver, whether Muhammed had been retained or not, but you beat me to it. No prob BNB. I am chill.

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07-27-2005, 09:18 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Panthers add Gardner The Panthers just made a trade with the Washington Redskins for Rod Gardner. He definately would have been a better fit here in New Orleans than Az Hakim. This now gives Carolina 3 pretty good receivers with good speed and most importantly... hands.

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07-27-2005, 10:26 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: Panthers add Gardner Originally Posted by papz The Panthers just made a trade with the Washington Redskins for Rod Gardner. He definately would have been a better fit here in New Orleans than Az Hakim. This now gives Carolina 3 pretty good receivers with good speed and most importantly... hands. Wow. Not only are they healthy, but now they have Gardner. Jake made Muhsin Muhammed relevant again, he will prob do the same for Rod. He is in the same mold as Muhammed, a tall receiver who can stretch the field. This is not good news.

07-27-2005, 11:03 PM	#4
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	One bad year, and two good years....for a #2. Relax saintswhodi, I would have posted something about Smith being their #1 receiver, whether Muhammed had been retained or not, but you beat me to it.

07-28-2005, 12:47 AM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Yes... Smith was their #1 receiver til he got hurt. If you can actually remember prior to Smith being injured, Carolina was going to put Muhammed on the chopping block. Prior to his fantastic season last year, he was known to be a inconsistent ball dropper. Let's see how he does in the Windy city with Rex Grossman as his quarterback. In that cold weather, I definately can see him revert back to his old habits.

07-28-2005, 12:51 AM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	One more thing... 2001 Carolina Panthers 11 11 50 585 11.7 43 1 7 1 26 2002 Carolina Panthers 14 14 63 823 13.1 42 3 17 1 40 2003 Carolina Panthers 15 15 54 837 15.5 60 3 18 2 37 That's hardly #1 receiver type numbers... Something else that I found pretty interesting... not only did Smith have a better 2003 year than Muhsin, he had a better 2002 year than him also.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Man, it must be nice to actually check a fact before flying off the handle. Way to be considerate of others papz and looking up your info before attempting to check someone. Good job.

07-28-2005, 10:46 AM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	good WR... just put craft on him, its all good.