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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Y'all are dumb if you think Sean Payton would go for Gordon. No way in hell. We don't need, nor want his baggage he carries....

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Old 11-04-2019, 04:58 AM   #1
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Y'all are dumb if you think Sean Payton would go for Gordon. No way in hell. We don't need, nor want his baggage he carries.
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Y'all are dumb if you think Sean Payton would go for Gordon. No way in hell. We don't need, nor want his baggage he carries.
And yet Payton signed an undrafted rookie free agent who'd plea'd down charges to sexual battery, and later saw his plea agreement rejected by the presiding judge and ordered away in handcuffs to serve 6 months...

Also the Saints receiving corps is basically @CantGuardMike; a number of guys who're injured, just not stepping up haven't relieved the double/triple teams with the exception of RB Kamara and TE Josh Hill...

Gordon is a well-documented, uber-talented, problem-child wide receiver, so the situation was fluid, but, by no means, was it a slam-dunk he wasn't given serious discussion in the Saints offices...

But I would've bet money (no I wouldn't bet on Payton's thought process) that he's never sign someone with Granderson's baggage, and yet here he is...
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And yet Payton signed an undrafted rookie free agent who'd plea'd down charges to sexual battery, and later saw his plea agreement rejected by the presiding judge and ordered away in handcuffs to serve 6 months...

Also the Saints receiving corps is basically @CantGuardMike; a number of guys who're injured, just not stepping up haven't relieved the double/triple teams with the exception of RB Kamara and TE Josh Hill...

Gordon is a well-documented, uber-talented, problem-child wide receiver, so the situation was fluid, but, by no means, was it a slam-dunk he wasn't given serious discussion in the Saints offices...

But I would've bet money (no I wouldn't bet on Payton's thought process) that he's never sign someone with Granderson's baggage, and yet here he is...
As far as I can tell Granderson has no prior record and the "sexual battery" to which he was charged amounted to "unwanted sexual contact with two women while all three slept at his apartment in November 2018."

"He pleaded no contest July 10 to touching the buttocks of one of the women and the buttocks of the other, each over their clothing, according to Wyoming state court records obtained Saturday by The Times-Picayune | The New Orleans Advocate."


Yes, he made a mistake and they were all probably drunk, but I'll guarantee you that more egregious acts have been perpetrated by numerous privileged former college athletes on every roster in the NFL.

Oh, and that judgement by the "presiding judge" was thrown out after it was discovered that the judge had unlawfully contacted a psychiatric examiner of Granderson.

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As far as I can tell Granderson has no prior record and the "sexual battery" to which he was charged amounted to "unwanted sexual contact with two women while all three slept at his apartment in November 2018."

"He pleaded no contest July 10 to touching the buttocks of one of the women and the buttocks of the other, each over their clothing, according to Wyoming state court records obtained Saturday by The Times-Picayune | The New Orleans Advocate."


Yes, he made a mistake and they were all probably drunk, but I'll guarantee you that more egregious acts have been perpetrated by numerous privileged former college athletes on every roster in the NFL.

Oh, and that judgement by the "presiding judge" was thrown out after it was discovered that the judge had unlawfully contacted a psychiatric examiner of Granderson.
AG, not here to re-try, but illustrating the point that in Payton's history here with the Saints, players even with a hint of this cloud were often off the board when Tom Benson were alive...

And am familiar with the details of the case and don't dispute any of them to be incorrect...

Merely disputing the assumption that Payton would never consider Gordon. Have to doubt that he did and that he called Belichick where there's mutual respect and common league history for background...

IF there is one thing we can assume is that Payton's player acquisitions are heavily weighted by Coach to personal references...
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AG, not here to re-try, but illustrating the point that in Payton's history here with the Saints, players even with a hint of this cloud were often off the board when Tom Benson were alive...

And am familiar with the details of the case and don't dispute any of them to be incorrect...

Merely disputing the assumption that Payton would never consider Gordon. Have to doubt that he did and that he called Belichick where there's mutual respect and common league history for background...

IF there is one thing we can assume is that Payton's player acquisitions are heavily weighted by Coach to personal references...
To this I agree completely. Payton is far more likely to avoid a player that is disruptive and uncooperative than one with a single youthful mistake. He learned his lessons several years back.

I too don't doubt they "considered" Gordon, but not seriously after that quick phone call. "Bill, why you cutting him loose? ... Okay, got it. Thanks. Tell Linda I said, 'Hi'"
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