"sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday"

44Champs · 11-07-2019, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I'm the same way with Steve Young LOL. Hated having to watch him batter and beat us to a bloody pulp twice a year, but I had a lot of respect for him as a player, and in advanced stats, Young pretty much is the QB that they desperately wish Aaron Rodgers was. Rodgers matches him with an all time best TD/INT ratio, but his efficiency numbers are poor while Young was an MVP candidate up in his late 30s. The big 3 elite QBs in that era were Favre, Young and a past his prime Aikman behind them (after his back injury, he was never the same again but still commanded respect for his 3 rings). Young had the numbers to be behind Favre in the MVP QB debates, where as Aaron Rodgers really falls short behind the Manning, Brady, Brees trio for most of the years. If social media existed back in the 90s and advanced stats, Young would've got all the praise and credit that Rodgers gets now. They would most likely even label him potential GOAT for his crazy efficiency numbers and when he retired, he had the all time best TD/INT ratio.

I hated having to deal with Kurt Warner back in his prime with the Rams but he is also one of my all time favorite QBs. He was likable and easy to root for being that his journey with the rags to riches story. I rooted for him hard when the Cards made that SB in 2008.

I know some older Falcons fans who are cool and I get along with them, not much trash talk and we've been to games. But then again, they're older and come from our generation, we're mostly chilled out now and not rowdy anymore.

Talking football with older Falcons fans is pretty funny though cause they hate those old 49ers teams as much as we do. They really caught a break in 1998 by getting ahead of the Niners in the twilight of their dynasty and yet even in that year, the Falcons had to win 14 games to get the division.

One bad memory I have of Atlanta back in the day was seeing Morten Andersen go there and I don't have the time this morning to pull up the game, but I know there is one game where he kicked multiple 40-50 yard kicks on us which was like daggers going into the heart. Hated seeing him in a Falcons uniform making those clutch long distance kicks.

I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL

CHA_CHING · 11-07-2019, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL

Herbert is hands down the most overrated Saints player in our franchise history IMO. The biggest weakness of the Mora/Dome Patrol teams was that they had the historical equivalent of Blake Bortles at QB. He still won a lot of games due to that defense but that didn't make him great. The NFC was tough back then and the NFCCG was the real SB. It wasn't like the AFC where the 2000 Ravens with Dilfer got to go through crappy teams. Every team that ever beat us in the playoffs and the 49ers knew damn well that Herbert was our biggest weakness and as long as you brought pressure on him and could force him to throw INTs, all you had to do was not turn the ball over against our defense, and they could grind out a hard fought win.

I have never understood fans that defend Herbert. He was so bad that we pretty much got screwed by Jimmy Johnson and Dallas trading a draft pick for Steve Walsh who was an even worse QB than Herbert.

Herbert saved his WORST games for the playoffs. We were on route to putting the Falcons in a hole in the 1991 game. Up 10-0, he throws a pick right to Sanders in the endzone. We could've been up 17-0 and had them buried. That one play changed that entire game. Then the 1992 game, he just stunk it up so bad, even though we had a 20-7 lead early in that game. The two best years of the Dome Patrol were wasted on him being the QB.

What drove me nuts was seeing him go to Atlanta and have his only pro bowl season and put up decent numbers in the Run-N-Shoot offense for one year. But even that season really wasn't all that great or they wouldn't have been willing to move on to Jeff George.

stickman · 11-08-2019, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL

Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans.

Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there.

AsylumGuido · 11-09-2019, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans.

Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there.

Don't forget we got Curtis Lofton from the Failclowns.

stickman · 11-09-2019, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't forget we got Curtis Lofton from the Failclowns.

I remember that. We got Michael Haynes from them too. But that was players betraying them, not us. Hence the difference.

CHA_CHING · 11-09-2019, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans.

Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there.

The one way to look at it is that football is a business and these guys are simply trying to make their living.

Joe Horn didn't bother me. As for Morten, that failure fell on us. We should've kept him instead of allowing him to go over there. Herbert could've stayed with the Falcons for all I cared after all the stinkers he put up in the playoffs.

iceshack149 · 11-10-2019, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans.

Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there.

The fact that Horn went to Roddy White during a Saints/Falcons game and said that he'd join him in Atlanta the next year and that he'd make White a great receiver always bothered me.

Did you know: Lance Moore accepted a deal with the Falcons on a Friday and quit the team two days later? I'm certain he did that because...screw the Falcons.

11-07-2019, 08:51 AM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I'm the same way with Steve Young LOL. Hated having to watch him batter and beat us to a bloody pulp twice a year, but I had a lot of respect for him as a player, and in advanced stats, Young pretty much is the QB that they desperately wish Aaron Rodgers was. Rodgers matches him with an all time best TD/INT ratio, but his efficiency numbers are poor while Young was an MVP candidate up in his late 30s. The big 3 elite QBs in that era were Favre, Young and a past his prime Aikman behind them (after his back injury, he was never the same again but still commanded respect for his 3 rings). Young had the numbers to be behind Favre in the MVP QB debates, where as Aaron Rodgers really falls short behind the Manning, Brady, Brees trio for most of the years. If social media existed back in the 90s and advanced stats, Young would've got all the praise and credit that Rodgers gets now. They would most likely even label him potential GOAT for his crazy efficiency numbers and when he retired, he had the all time best TD/INT ratio. I hated having to deal with Kurt Warner back in his prime with the Rams but he is also one of my all time favorite QBs. He was likable and easy to root for being that his journey with the rags to riches story. I rooted for him hard when the Cards made that SB in 2008. I know some older Falcons fans who are cool and I get along with them, not much trash talk and we've been to games. But then again, they're older and come from our generation, we're mostly chilled out now and not rowdy anymore. Talking football with older Falcons fans is pretty funny though cause they hate those old 49ers teams as much as we do. They really caught a break in 1998 by getting ahead of the Niners in the twilight of their dynasty and yet even in that year, the Falcons had to win 14 games to get the division. One bad memory I have of Atlanta back in the day was seeing Morten Andersen go there and I don't have the time this morning to pull up the game, but I know there is one game where he kicked multiple 40-50 yard kicks on us which was like daggers going into the heart. Hated seeing him in a Falcons uniform making those clutch long distance kicks. I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL
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11-07-2019, 05:50 PM	#2
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by 44Champs I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL Herbert is hands down the most overrated Saints player in our franchise history IMO. The biggest weakness of the Mora/Dome Patrol teams was that they had the historical equivalent of Blake Bortles at QB. He still won a lot of games due to that defense but that didn't make him great. The NFC was tough back then and the NFCCG was the real SB. It wasn't like the AFC where the 2000 Ravens with Dilfer got to go through crappy teams. Every team that ever beat us in the playoffs and the 49ers knew damn well that Herbert was our biggest weakness and as long as you brought pressure on him and could force him to throw INTs, all you had to do was not turn the ball over against our defense, and they could grind out a hard fought win. I have never understood fans that defend Herbert. He was so bad that we pretty much got screwed by Jimmy Johnson and Dallas trading a draft pick for Steve Walsh who was an even worse QB than Herbert. Herbert saved his WORST games for the playoffs. We were on route to putting the Falcons in a hole in the 1991 game. Up 10-0, he throws a pick right to Sanders in the endzone. We could've been up 17-0 and had them buried. That one play changed that entire game. Then the 1992 game, he just stunk it up so bad, even though we had a 20-7 lead early in that game. The two best years of the Dome Patrol were wasted on him being the QB. What drove me nuts was seeing him go to Atlanta and have his only pro bowl season and put up decent numbers in the Run-N-Shoot offense for one year. But even that season really wasn't all that great or they wouldn't have been willing to move on to Jeff George.

11-08-2019, 08:24 PM	#3
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,819	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by 44Champs I STILL haven't fully embraced Morten Anderson back into the Who Dat Nation. Or Bobby Hebert for that matter. LOL Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans. Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there. WhoDat!656 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by stickman Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans. Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there. Don't forget we got Curtis Lofton from the Failclowns.

11-09-2019, 12:51 PM	#5
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,819	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't forget we got Curtis Lofton from the Failclowns. I remember that. We got Michael Haynes from them too. But that was players betraying them, not us. Hence the difference.

11-09-2019, 09:50 AM	#6
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by stickman Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans. Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there. The one way to look at it is that football is a business and these guys are simply trying to make their living. Joe Horn didn't bother me. As for Morten, that failure fell on us. We should've kept him instead of allowing him to go over there. Herbert could've stayed with the Falcons for all I cared after all the stinkers he put up in the playoffs.

11-10-2019, 12:34 AM	#7
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,457 Blog Entries: 1	Re: "sad thing is they are going in dry on us sunday" Originally Posted by stickman Agreed. Vividly remember Hebert doing that stupid Airplane move on the field after throwing a touchdown against the Saints in the Dome. Leaving is one thing, going to Atlanta is a direct FU to the Saints and their fans. Haven't forgiven Joe Horn either even though he only lasted a season there. The fact that Horn went to Roddy White during a Saints/Falcons game and said that he'd join him in Atlanta the next year and that he'd make White a great receiver always bothered me. Did you know: Lance Moore accepted a deal with the Falcons on a Friday and quit the team two days later? I'm certain he did that because...screw the Falcons.