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ChrisXVI 11-11-2019 10:59 AM

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Well that’s fantastic with Mike Evans next week.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 866923)
A ton of bad calls but TA is way over paid. He got abused all game. Drew has the quickest release and still couldn’t get the ball off

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 866927)
Someone posted he had the flu. He looked lathargic never seen him get schooled as bad as yesterday . Something was up.


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He definitely had the flu. The left side of our line had no chance. Brees had no chance to have plays develop. I was worried when I saw Armstead did not practice Friday due to illness with all this flu going around.

Rugby Saint II 11-11-2019 03:46 PM

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Losing is hard on the liver!:chug:

ChrisXVI 11-11-2019 04:15 PM

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saintfan 11-11-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 867010)

Exactly

K Major 11-11-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 867010)

:ohno:

Not trying to come across as a smart a** but who are you defeating in the post season with the lack of production opposite MT?

This is by far the worst WR core the Saints have had in quite a while.

ChrisXVI 11-11-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 867013)
:ohno:

Not trying to come across as a smart a** but who are defeating in the post season with the lack of production opposite MT?

This is by far the worst WR core the Saints have had in quite a while.

At first I thought there was no way that stat was true, but sadly it is. I wish I had the access to the all-22 footage and the time to sit and watch it. Can it really be possible that these guys are that bad at getting open?

WHODATINCA 11-11-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 867003)
Losing is hard on the liver!:chug:

Yeah. But, winning can be equally as bad. :chug:

K Major 11-11-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 867017)
At first I thought there was no way that stat was true, but sadly it is. I wish I had the access to the all-22 footage and the time to sit and watch it. Can it really be possible that these guys are that bad at getting open?

XVI -

I can't pile on the WR's yesterday because the O line played just as poorly. Pretty much the entire team but not being to separate at wide out played a huge part with the struggles offensively. Not having a threat opposite Mike really puts us behind the 8 ball. Ginn Jr is a burner but not so much a possession receiver. He's always had "issues" catching the ball dating back to Miami.

I'm not sold on Tre'quan Smith ever becoming that dude who can consistently beat zone coverage. Did you happen to watch the Cows games last night? Michael Gallup continues to produce (td's, chain mover on 3rd down) at a high level for them. This guy went a few picks before Tre in the 2018 draft :rolleyes:. His route running is crisp and smooth & he's helping out Amari big time.

Saints front office had a golden opportunity to make a move before the trade deadline however we didn't capitalize. Emmanuel Sanders would have been a "threat" ... hell he already made his presence felt last week in his 1st game as a Niner.

I know many will scream "draft capital to acquire X receiver isn't worth it" but you see what can/will happen on Sundays without a true #2 WR. 2019 is win now and you have to do what you have to do if you want to see another Lombardi before Brees exits.

I have absolutely no faith in the guys we line up opposite Thomas but it is what it is. Next man up I guess :rolleyes:.

Saints need to re group, re focus and execute next weekend. Tampa won't feel sorry for us come Sunday either. Don't bring your A game at this level, you will go home with an L.

Who Dat :bng:

WW_Who_Dat 11-11-2019 05:51 PM

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Someone complained in a thread yesterday about Brees putting the players at risk with some of his throws yesterday. That’s the natural result of not getting ANY separation, Brees can fit it in to those tight windows but witness what can happen ... Tre’quan on his only reception yesterday ... brutal. But again yesterday Brees did not have the time behind that Offensive line play yesterday to allow enough time for our receivers other than ones named Thomas to clear.

saintfan 11-11-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 867023)
Someone complained in a thread yesterday about Brees putting the players at risk with some of his throws yesterday. That’s the natural result of not getting ANY separation, Brees can fit it in to those tight windows but witness what can happen ... Tre’quan on his only reception yesterday ... brutal. But again yesterday Brees did not have the time behind that Offensive line play yesterday to allow enough time for our receivers other than ones named Thomas to clear.

And as well as Drew can hit tight windows, yesterday he'd drop back and even HE wouldn't try it. Let's face it. With MT as the exception our WRs suck pond water. Give me Dez. He sure can't suck any worse than what we have.

st thomas 11-11-2019 06:29 PM

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It’s totally BS people ;everybody sees this granmons , papas cousins kissin cousins Elvis , oh and bobbae Hebert all see this. Payton and loomis says we are fine?


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st thomas 11-11-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 867025)
And as well as Drew can hit tight windows, yesterday he'd drop back and even HE wouldn't try it. Let's face it. With MT as the exception our WRs suck pond water. Give me Dez. He sure can't suck any worse than what we have.



I’m game for cam Meredith back we’ll ok u know what I mean.


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CHA_CHING 11-11-2019 06:43 PM

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Having some time to think on this; maybe this loss was coming?

Our offense really is not that great anymore and hasn't been since Thanksgiving of last year. I still think they've been figured out and not fixed since the Cowboys loss of last year.

With Bridgewater in, Payton was more daring, more risky and had to gameplan better. I liked Bridgewater but even with that offense, we really didn't light it up. They didn't turn the ball over and did just enough to let the defense handle all the heavy lifting.

The decline is real with Brees and I knew it was real last year. This was bad, but we're probably in for a much worse rude awakening down the line.

Yesterday, the defense simply couldn't do it all. They tried and wore out, a lot of that was due to our offense not helping them by constantly punting.

The Falcons had a weak secondary and really could've been exploited, but that's hard to do when you throw checkdowns every chance.

I had a bad feeling all week over this game, but couldn't tell anybody cause the confidence was soaring high in Saints universe.

I felt like it was over on that final drive before half time, where Brees had 2 guys WIDE OPEN for touchdowns, and both times, he just throws checkdowns to Kamara and we play for a field goal instead of a touchdown. What was up with that? No killer instinct of the past. We were playing to not lose and ended up losing, as what always happens with that strategy.

Yesterday I saw a team that just looked completely exposed and powerless, possibly buying into their own hype. This is embarrassing for it to come after a bye. But we did this to ourselves. All this talk about not having WRs; we're the only contending team who didn't bother making any trades. We could've fought for Emmanuel Sanders and instead let him go to the 49ers. The Ravens got Marcus Peters who is having a career resurgence there, the Pats got Sanu. Who did we get? No one.

ChrisXVI 11-11-2019 06:59 PM

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The draft move for Marcus Davenport has hurt us more than I thought. Do you know what we could have done with those two 1st round picks and the 5th rounder?

dizzle88 11-12-2019 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 867031)
Having some time to think on this; maybe this loss was coming?

Our offense really is not that great anymore and hasn't been since Thanksgiving of last year. I still think they've been figured out and not fixed since the Cowboys loss of last year.

With Bridgewater in, Payton was more daring, more risky and had to gameplan better. I liked Bridgewater but even with that offense, we really didn't light it up. They didn't turn the ball over and did just enough to let the defense handle all the heavy lifting.

The decline is real with Brees and I knew it was real last year. This was bad, but we're probably in for a much worse rude awakening down the line.

Yesterday, the defense simply couldn't do it all. They tried and wore out, a lot of that was due to our offense not helping them by constantly punting.

The Falcons had a weak secondary and really could've been exploited, but that's hard to do when you throw checkdowns every chance.

I had a bad feeling all week over this game, but couldn't tell anybody cause the confidence was soaring high in Saints universe.

I felt like it was over on that final drive before half time, where Brees had 2 guys WIDE OPEN for touchdowns, and both times, he just throws checkdowns to Kamara and we play for a field goal instead of a touchdown. What was up with that? No killer instinct of the past. We were playing to not lose and ended up losing, as what always happens with that strategy.

Yesterday I saw a team that just looked completely exposed and powerless, possibly buying into their own hype. This is embarrassing for it to come after a bye. But we did this to ourselves. All this talk about not having WRs; we're the only contending team who didn't bother making any trades. We could've fought for Emmanuel Sanders and instead let him go to the 49ers. The Ravens got Marcus Peters who is having a career resurgence there, the Pats got Sanu. Who did we get? No one.

Exactly what I mentioned in another thread.

No shots to the endzone, even when in the red zone - just short passes and expect Kamara to dodge everyone to the endzone.
No attempt to make this receiving core (which is the worst it's been in the Payton era) any better in FA or Draft.

Just watched the 9ers and Hawks, they got everyone involved - we'll be in trouble if we see either of those 2 in the playoffs.

vpheughan 11-12-2019 06:15 AM

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Is it coincidence that this was the "UPSET" weekend.

Tennessee beats the Mahome led Chiefs
The "Big Benless" Steelers beat the Rams
The Dolphins beat the Colts
The Browns beat the Bills
The Falcons beat the Saints
The only undefeated team gets beat...........$$$$$$$$$$$ (Entertainment and Legalized Betting.)

TheOak 11-13-2019 08:22 AM

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As I read through multiple threads after this game I can not help but notice that some very smart people get so blind when Brees is part of the discussion...

Lets cover it all and point out why some of the crap I am reading is just that... crap. Please correct any of the below if you find that something is unfounded.

"We should be playing Teddy's game plan and running more".
~ Well. Mr. Bridgewater and our run game never had to play out of a hole. What do most teams swap to when they are two scores down? Passing.
~ Our Line wasn't blocking for crap and the run game wasn't there. If the O-Line is out of sync and there is no blocking you cant run or pass.
~ 'Drew is padding his stats'.. 2016 called and they want their comment back. He has been out nearly 1/2 a season, there is nothing to pad. When you are down by 2 and in the 4th Quarter you pass to catch up, its basic football understanding.
~ Drew is just staring down receivers... You mean the same receivers that need to be replaced because they couldn't catch the drip in a Korean whore house? Drew is doing what Teddy did... waiting for Michael Thomas to be open so that someone catches the damn pass.

Lets talk Offensive Line:
~ The Falcons defense had 6 sacks, a defense that took a half a season to accumulate 6 total scaks before Sunday. I see comments of 'blaming the offensive line is just avoiding the real QB problem'... Do you even understand football?
~ Murry averaged 2.4 YPC, has his lowest since week 3.
~ Falcons defense had 5 tackles for losses. (We had 4 and 1 sack)
~ Vick Beasley had 1.5 sacks and his time to sac was 3.34 seconds, 16th fastest in the league (that isn't a coverage sack, it is an offensive line failure to touch him).

Now lets talk about the Defense
~ Allowed 24 first downs, worst all season.
~ Allowed 143 yards rushing, worst since week 1.
` Allowed 317 yards passing, worst since week 3.
~ Atlanta had 7+ more minutes with the ball than we did. (SEVEN #$*&ing MINUTES)
~ Atlants was our Defenses worst showing since week 3.
~ If our defense let teams put up 26 every game against Teddy we would have lost to Dallas and Jacksonville and he would be 4-2.

To sum it all up:
All of that sh1t above and the QB position is the problem...????

One other thing.. I don't recall hearing one damn murmur about play calling or our QB being done when we beat the Cardinals 31. The game where Murry averaged 4.9 YPC, the offensive line blocked and the defense was stifling.

Just because we lost a game, doesn't mean we need to lose our $%^*ing minds as well.:bng::love::bng:

st thomas 11-13-2019 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 867208)
As I read through multiple threads after this game I can not help but notice that some very smart people get so blind when Brees is part of the discussion...



Lets cover it all and point out why some of the crap I am reading is just that... crap. Please correct any of the below if you find that something is unfounded.



"We should be playing Teddy's game plan and running more".

~ Well. Mr. Bridgewater and our run game never had to play out of a hole. What do most teams swap to when they are two scores down? Passing.

~ Our Line wasn't blocking for crap and the run game wasn't there. If the O-Line is out of sync and there is no blocking you cant run or pass.

~ 'Drew is padding his stats'.. 2016 called and they want their comment back. He has been out nearly 1/2 a season, there is nothing to pad. When you are down by 2 and in the 4th Quarter you pass to catch up, its basic football understanding.

~ Drew is just staring down receivers... You mean the same receivers that need to be replaced because they couldn't catch the drip in a Korean whore house? Drew is doing what Teddy did... waiting for Michael Thomas to be open so that someone catches the damn pass.



Lets talk Offensive Line:

~ The Falcons defense had 6 sacks, a defense that took a half a season to accumulate 6 total scaks before Sunday. I see comments of 'blaming the offensive line is just avoiding the real QB problem'... Do you even understand football?

~ Murry averaged 2.4 YPC, has his lowest since week 3.

~ Falcons defense had 5 tackles for losses. (We had 4 and 1 sack)

~ Vick Beasley had 1.5 sacks and his time to sac was 3.34 seconds, 16th fastest in the league (that isn't a coverage sack, it is an offensive line failure to touch him).



Now lets talk about the Defense

~ Allowed 24 first downs, worst all season.

~ Allowed 143 yards rushing, worst since week 1.

` Allowed 317 yards passing, worst since week 3.

~ Atlanta had 7+ more minutes with the ball than we did. (SEVEN #$*&ing MINUTES)

~ Atlants was our Defenses worst showing since week 3.

~ If our defense let teams put up 26 every game against Teddy we would have lost to Dallas and Jacksonville and he would be 4-2.



To sum it all up:

All of that sh1t above and the QB position is the problem...????



One other thing.. I don't recall hearing one damn murmur about play calling or our QB being done when we beat the Cardinals 31. The game where Murry averaged 4.9 YPC, the offensive line blocked and the defense was stifling.



Just because we lost a game, doesn't mean we need to lose our $%^*ing minds as well.:bng::love::bng:







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st thomas 11-13-2019 08:27 AM

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No correction from here. It’s going to be fixed in Tampa though


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K Major 11-13-2019 08:32 AM

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No correction from here. It’s going to be fixed in Tampa though


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Better hope so.

Tampa is very capable of beating us on Sunday. I'm just hoping we get the terrible Jameis this weekend.

st thomas 11-13-2019 08:33 AM

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Better hope so.



Tampa is very capable of beating us on Sunday. I'm just hoping we get the terrible Jameis this weekend.



Oh I know that k it’s latimore , Evans going to get 250


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st thomas 11-13-2019 08:34 AM

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Oh I know that k it’s latimore , Evans going to get 250


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MT better get 251


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st thomas 11-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Jamiseses w been averaging 2 + picks a game we better snatch 1 or I’m going nuts


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K Major 11-13-2019 08:44 AM

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Jamiseses w been averaging 2 + picks a game we better snatch 1 or I’m going nuts


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Jameis gets a lot of well deserved criticism over the years however he is extremely capable of throwing it over 300 yards against any team (see Seattle game). I'm sure Dennis has a game plan to help PJ out but it all starts up front with the D line.

Hopefully we have a good week of preparation and game planning to somehow limit the big plays to Evans. It's up to the Saints secondary on execution.

st thomas 11-13-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 867219)
Jameis gets a lot of well deserved criticism over the years however he is extremely capable of throwing it over 300 yards against any team (see Seattle game). I'm sure Dennis has a game plan to help PJ out but it all starts up front with the D line.

Hopefully we have a good week of preparation and game planning to somehow limit the big plays to Evans. It's up to the Saints secondary on execution.



I’m predicting the Defense will once again save the day even with latt out.


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st thomas 11-13-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867099)
Is it coincidence that this was the "UPSET" weekend.



Tennessee beats the Mahome led Chiefs

The "Big Benless" Steelers beat the Rams

The Dolphins beat the Colts

The Browns beat the Bills

The Falcons beat the Saints

The only undefeated team gets beat...........$$$$$$$$$$$ (Entertainment and Legalized Betting.)



Hey it wasn’t only us . It happens every year Vegas pounds cash.


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