Brees is done

44Champs · 11-11-2019, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

First of all everybody step back from the ledge. It looks bad but things generally appear worse than they actually are. I admit yesterdays game sucked from the game plan to the execution. Drew is still Drew. Remember he was out for six weeks with an injury. The team really stepped up in his absence and looked good for his return but the passion just wasn't there this game.

There were several factors contributing to this loss. The primary one was the penalties killing our drives or extending theirs. Peat was horrible but Clapp was even worse. Armstead looked like he should have been in the bed recovering. Kamara was till obviously hobbled. We abandoned the running game way too early and became one dimensional. We dropped way too many passes and Drew had no one to throw to except MT in triple coverage. Losing Lattimore was also key to a less than stellar defense. Also, where was that run stopping run defense? We couldn't get pressure with the front four and when we blitzed Ryan hit the open receiver. The game plan was the wrong one! They switched things up and caught us totally unprepared.

I wonder if Payton getting engaged has taken his edge away?

Bingo on all points

XLIV CHAMPS

WHODATINCA · 11-11-2019, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Looks like he’s 45. Offensive line doesn’t even want to block for him anymore. The locker room is going to crumble from the top down. I see us losing out in our division and missing the playoffs. Need to use this time to see what Teddy or Hill can do when Payton opens the play book.

I plan on reminding you of this when Brees takes us to another Super Bowl win.

rezburna · 11-11-2019, 10:22 PM

I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better.

shawnkytonk · 11-11-2019, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better.

Nobodies? Lockett has shown WR1 potential the past two seasons. Metcalf is having a great rookie year. Gordon might not be what he once was. That trio is far from nobodies.

rezburna · 11-11-2019, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Nobodies? Lockett has shown WR1 potential the past two seasons. Metcalf is having a great rookie year. Gordon might not be what he once was. That trio is far from nobodies.

Tyler Lockett isn’t in the same league as Michael Thomas. They don’t have a Kamara. They’re TE is out for the season. Metcalf is decent. That’s it.

Rell&Gold · 11-12-2019, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Tyler Lockett isn’t in the same league as Michael Thomas. They don’t have a Kamara. They’re TE is out for the season. Metcalf is decent. That’s it.

MT......AK isn't healthy and hasn't produced for weeks. Other than MT Seahawks have a better WR core.....AK is having a subpar year this year REGARDLESS of why. Chris Carson aside from fumbles is having a better year

dam1953 · 11-11-2019, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better.

Brees’ stats were better that Wilson’s, but the Saint’s D didn’t come up with 5 sacks and 3 turnovers.

TheOak · 11-12-2019, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better.

You are of the mind that a Wilson thrown ball hitting Ginn in the hands would have a different outcome than a Brees thrown ball?

Ginn #7 (5 drops 55% catch rate) in the league for dropped passes, Cook #33 (3 drops 56% catch rate)

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?...=0&sortOrder=0

Thomas 4 drops 83% catch rate. Sort of hard to put it on the QB when you have a WR leading the league and breaking records in catch percentage isn’t it?

Please correct me where I am wrong but didn’t Teddy favor Thomas and have issues getting Ginn and Cook to catch as well?

We need a HighSchool QB throwing ducks at our receivers every day so that they learn how to track and snatch a pass that isn’t perfect. Hands of stone.

dam1953 · 11-12-2019, 08:28 AM

Sunday's game was a throwback to the 7-9 seasons where Brees was taking sacks because of poor O line play and receivers not getting quick separation.

Looks like our D had a 7-9 throwback game as well.

shawnkytonk · 11-11-2019, 10:36 PM

Drew was the least of our problems yesterday.

11-11-2019, 10:31 PM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II First of all everybody step back from the ledge. It looks bad but things generally appear worse than they actually are. I admit yesterdays game sucked from the game plan to the execution. Drew is still Drew. Remember he was out for six weeks with an injury. The team really stepped up in his absence and looked good for his return but the passion just wasn't there this game. There were several factors contributing to this loss. The primary one was the penalties killing our drives or extending theirs. Peat was horrible but Clapp was even worse. Armstead looked like he should have been in the bed recovering. Kamara was till obviously hobbled. We abandoned the running game way too early and became one dimensional. We dropped way too many passes and Drew had no one to throw to except MT in triple coverage. Losing Lattimore was also key to a less than stellar defense. Also, where was that run stopping run defense? We couldn't get pressure with the front four and when we blitzed Ryan hit the open receiver. The game plan was the wrong one! They switched things up and caught us totally unprepared. I wonder if Payton getting engaged has taken his edge away? Bingo on all points XLIV CHAMPS
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11-11-2019, 04:45 PM	#2
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by The Dude Looks like he’s 45. Offensive line doesn’t even want to block for him anymore. The locker room is going to crumble from the top down. I see us losing out in our division and missing the playoffs. Need to use this time to see what Teddy or Hill can do when Payton opens the play book. I plan on reminding you of this when Brees takes us to another Super Bowl win. jnormand, RailBoss, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-11-2019, 10:38 PM	#4
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by rezburna I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better. Nobodies? Lockett has shown WR1 potential the past two seasons. Metcalf is having a great rookie year. Gordon might not be what he once was. That trio is far from nobodies. brees84 likes this.

11-11-2019, 10:43 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Nobodies? Lockett has shown WR1 potential the past two seasons. Metcalf is having a great rookie year. Gordon might not be what he once was. That trio is far from nobodies. Tyler Lockett isn’t in the same league as Michael Thomas. They don’t have a Kamara. They’re TE is out for the season. Metcalf is decent. That’s it.

11-12-2019, 07:01 AM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by rezburna Tyler Lockett isn’t in the same league as Michael Thomas. They don’t have a Kamara. They’re TE is out for the season. Metcalf is decent. That’s it. MT......AK isn't healthy and hasn't produced for weeks. Other than MT Seahawks have a better WR core.....AK is having a subpar year this year REGARDLESS of why. Chris Carson aside from fumbles is having a better year

11-11-2019, 10:22 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Brees is done I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better. dizzle88 likes this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by rezburna I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better. Brees’ stats were better that Wilson’s, but the Saint’s D didn’t come up with 5 sacks and 3 turnovers. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

11-12-2019, 07:18 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by rezburna I’m watching Russell Wilson do this **** with nobodies at WR. Brees gotta do better. You are of the mind that a Wilson thrown ball hitting Ginn in the hands would have a different outcome than a Brees thrown ball? Ginn #7 (5 drops 55% catch rate) in the league for dropped passes, Cook #33 (3 drops 56% catch rate) https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?...=0&sortOrder=0 Thomas 4 drops 83% catch rate. Sort of hard to put it on the QB when you have a WR leading the league and breaking records in catch percentage isn’t it? Please correct me where I am wrong but didn’t Teddy favor Thomas and have issues getting Ginn and Cook to catch as well? We need a HighSchool QB throwing ducks at our receivers every day so that they learn how to track and snatch a pass that isn’t perfect. Hands of stone. WW_Who_Dat, Rueben Mayes and dam1953 like this.
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11-12-2019, 08:28 AM	#9
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Brees is done Sunday's game was a throwback to the 7-9 seasons where Brees was taking sacks because of poor O line play and receivers not getting quick separation. Looks like our D had a 7-9 throwback game as well. Rueben Mayes likes this.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Brees is done Drew was the least of our problems yesterday.