Brees is done

st thomas · 11-11-2019, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Honestly, I put this loss on Payton. I love him, and I think he's a great coach. But the whole team stunk, which is usually an indication of coaching. I'm wondering if his engagement distracted him from properly preparing the team for this game.

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AsylumGuido · 11-11-2019, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We have one WR who can get open. ONE. Too many times Drew drops back and there's just nobody he can throw to. Bring in Dez. Sign me. Do SOMETHING at WR.

There were some open looks that went through the receivers' hands. Both Smith and Ginn dropped key open passes. Cook dropped one, as well, but also made several good catches. Also, it is difficult to get open when the left side of your line can't block anyone at all.

K Major · 11-11-2019, 02:05 PM

Speaking of WR's .... unconfirmed reports are stating that Michael Thomas sustained a mild concussion on that final catch of the game.

If he can't play on Sunday

...

jnormand · 11-11-2019, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of WR's .... unconfirmed reports are stating that Michael Thomas sustained a mild concussion on that final catch of the game.

If he can't play on Sunday ...

How annoying was that? Keeping those guys in there for some stupid BS yards and attempting a TD. Absurd.

neugey · 11-11-2019, 03:13 PM

Armstead looked bad enough out there that in hindsight they should have inactivated him and had someone else in his spot. But presuming he will back to better health by next weekend. And there's nothing we can do about it now.

Rugby Saint II · 11-11-2019, 03:18 PM

First of all everybody step back from the ledge. It looks bad but things generally appear worse than they actually are. I admit yesterdays game sucked from the game plan to the execution. Drew is still Drew. Remember he was out for six weeks with an injury. The team really stepped up in his absence and looked good for his return but the passion just wasn't there this game.

There were several factors contributing to this loss. The primary one was the penalties killing our drives or extending theirs. Peat was horrible but Clapp was even worse. Armstead looked like he should have been in the bed recovering. Kamara was till obviously hobbled. We abandoned the running game way too early and became one dimensional. We dropped way too many passes and Drew had no one to throw to except MT in triple coverage. Losing Lattimore was also key to a less than stellar defense. Also, where was that run stopping run defense? We couldn't get pressure with the front four and when we blitzed Ryan hit the open receiver. The game plan was the wrong one! They switched things up and caught us totally unprepared.

I wonder if Payton getting engaged has taken his edge away?

RailBoss · 11-11-2019, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Clapp looked promising in relief last season but I dont know what's going on now.

He'll look great in a Home Depot apron.

WHODATINCA · 11-11-2019, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Looks like he’s 45. Offensive line doesn’t even want to block for him anymore. The locker room is going to crumble from the top down. I see us losing out in our division and missing the playoffs. Need to use this time to see what Teddy or Hill can do when Payton opens the play book.

I plan on reminding you of this when Brees takes us to another Super Bowl win.

burningmetal · 11-11-2019, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hey I have no issue with people being pissed off about a loss. Especially to Atlanta in the dome. But come on man. There's being justifiably angry or disappointed and then there's just being a baby about it. I'm as competitive as the next person, maybe even more so in many cases. But some people throw a fit and make absolutely ridiculous claims.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course. I guess I can see logic and I understand emotions. But some people just make news for the Falcons board to look at and laugh.

I'm not loyal to any player or coach that hurts the team more than helps it. I want the Saints to win. But in the same regard, I also know that sometimes things happen and we lose.

When people completely come off the rails and post bulletin board material that's at best, laughable, its embarrassing.

I understand all of that. But there was really only one guy, that I've noticed, who went over the edge about it.

But I do think that that was a disgusting performance yesterday, and while I don't feel like the Saints suddenly stopped being contenders, I just hate when a team fails to even get up for a game. As a competitor, there's never been a situation where I competed for anything and didn't want to embarrass my opponent. I never feel like I need to, or can afford to take it easy on anyone. So it grinds my gears to hear people dismiss things like this when they happen like it's no big deal.

Because you can lose to anyone. But not showing up is inexcusable.

dam1953 · 11-11-2019, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I understand all of that. But there was really only one guy, that I've noticed, who went over the edge about it.

But I do think that that was a disgusting performance yesterday, and while I don't feel like the Saints suddenly stopped being contenders, I just hate when a team fails to even get up for a game. As a competitor, there's never been a situation where I competed for anything and didn't want to embarrass my opponent. I never feel like I need to, or can afford to take it easy on anyone. So it grinds my gears to hear people dismiss things like this when they happen like it's no big deal.

Because you can lose to anyone. But not showing up is inexcusable.

The Saints fell for the worst trap a team can fall for....they believed the headlines saying how great they were. Just hope that this game clears up the fact that the opposition doesn't necessarily believe all the BS.

11-11-2019, 01:57 PM	#81
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by 44Champs Honestly, I put this loss on Payton. I love him, and I think he's a great coach. But the whole team stunk, which is usually an indication of coaching. I'm wondering if his engagement distracted him from properly preparing the team for this game. XLIV CHAMPS Hell ya u don’t have to wait till u marry today he stayed in the sack a few days Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk jnormand likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by saintfan We have one WR who can get open. ONE. Too many times Drew drops back and there's just nobody he can throw to. Bring in Dez. Sign me. Do SOMETHING at WR. There were some open looks that went through the receivers' hands. Both Smith and Ginn dropped key open passes. Cook dropped one, as well, but also made several good catches. Also, it is difficult to get open when the left side of your line can't block anyone at all. WHODATINCA likes this.

11-11-2019, 02:05 PM	#83
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Speaking of WR's .... unconfirmed reports are stating that Michael Thomas sustained a mild concussion on that final catch of the game. If he can't play on Sunday ...

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,769	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of WR's .... unconfirmed reports are stating that Michael Thomas sustained a mild concussion on that final catch of the game. If he can't play on Sunday ... How annoying was that? Keeping those guys in there for some stupid BS yards and attempting a TD. Absurd.

11-11-2019, 03:13 PM	#85
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,869 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Brees is done Armstead looked bad enough out there that in hindsight they should have inactivated him and had someone else in his spot. But presuming he will back to better health by next weekend. And there's nothing we can do about it now.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Brees is done First of all everybody step back from the ledge. It looks bad but things generally appear worse than they actually are. I admit yesterdays game sucked from the game plan to the execution. Drew is still Drew. Remember he was out for six weeks with an injury. The team really stepped up in his absence and looked good for his return but the passion just wasn't there this game. There were several factors contributing to this loss. The primary one was the penalties killing our drives or extending theirs. Peat was horrible but Clapp was even worse. Armstead looked like he should have been in the bed recovering. Kamara was till obviously hobbled. We abandoned the running game way too early and became one dimensional. We dropped way too many passes and Drew had no one to throw to except MT in triple coverage. Losing Lattimore was also key to a less than stellar defense. Also, where was that run stopping run defense? We couldn't get pressure with the front four and when we blitzed Ryan hit the open receiver. The game plan was the wrong one! They switched things up and caught us totally unprepared. I wonder if Payton getting engaged has taken his edge away? Rueben Mayes and 44Champs like this.
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11-11-2019, 03:59 PM	#87
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Clapp looked promising in relief last season but I dont know what's going on now. He'll look great in a Home Depot apron. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-11-2019, 04:45 PM	#88
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by The Dude Looks like he’s 45. Offensive line doesn’t even want to block for him anymore. The locker room is going to crumble from the top down. I see us losing out in our division and missing the playoffs. Need to use this time to see what Teddy or Hill can do when Payton opens the play book. I plan on reminding you of this when Brees takes us to another Super Bowl win. jnormand, RailBoss, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-11-2019, 08:57 PM	#89
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by jnormand Hey I have no issue with people being pissed off about a loss. Especially to Atlanta in the dome. But come on man. There's being justifiably angry or disappointed and then there's just being a baby about it. I'm as competitive as the next person, maybe even more so in many cases. But some people throw a fit and make absolutely ridiculous claims. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course. I guess I can see logic and I understand emotions. But some people just make news for the Falcons board to look at and laugh. I'm not loyal to any player or coach that hurts the team more than helps it. I want the Saints to win. But in the same regard, I also know that sometimes things happen and we lose. When people completely come off the rails and post bulletin board material that's at best, laughable, its embarrassing. I understand all of that. But there was really only one guy, that I've noticed, who went over the edge about it. But I do think that that was a disgusting performance yesterday, and while I don't feel like the Saints suddenly stopped being contenders, I just hate when a team fails to even get up for a game. As a competitor, there's never been a situation where I competed for anything and didn't want to embarrass my opponent. I never feel like I need to, or can afford to take it easy on anyone. So it grinds my gears to hear people dismiss things like this when they happen like it's no big deal. Because you can lose to anyone. But not showing up is inexcusable. jnormand, RailBoss and Rueben Mayes like this.
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11-11-2019, 09:04 PM	#90
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by burningmetal I understand all of that. But there was really only one guy, that I've noticed, who went over the edge about it. But I do think that that was a disgusting performance yesterday, and while I don't feel like the Saints suddenly stopped being contenders, I just hate when a team fails to even get up for a game. As a competitor, there's never been a situation where I competed for anything and didn't want to embarrass my opponent. I never feel like I need to, or can afford to take it easy on anyone. So it grinds my gears to hear people dismiss things like this when they happen like it's no big deal. Because you can lose to anyone. But not showing up is inexcusable. The Saints fell for the worst trap a team can fall for....they believed the headlines saying how great they were. Just hope that this game clears up the fact that the opposition doesn't necessarily believe all the BS. jnormand, leilung, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.