Brees is done

voodooido · 11-12-2019, 06:03 PM

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Rsanders24 · 11-12-2019, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game.

Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles.

Rueben Mayes · 11-12-2019, 07:02 PM

start the cliche counter here Who Dats...

since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome...

"The NFL is a week to week league"....so true.

Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.)

K Major · 11-13-2019, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes

start the cliche counter here Who Dats...

since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome...

"The NFL is a week to week league"....so true.

Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.)

This ^^^ .

voodooido · 11-13-2019, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game.

Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles.

You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.

K Major · 11-13-2019, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.

He is voodooido. You can count the bad games with TA on one hand. Armstead along with Ramz have locked up premier pass rushers all season, but the sky is now falling after the ATL game? No excuses on the flu bug but it was painfully obvious that he was not himself. He's elite at LT.

It's football. Good teams can lose on any given Sunday.

Meanwhile Clapp is a "back up" for a reason.

AsylumGuido · 11-13-2019, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.

Armstead is absolutely an elite left tackle. What we saw on Sunday was a player that had missed practice leading into the game because of fighting the flu. If you have ever had the flu you would remember how much it can take out of you. It takes several days to get back to normal. He probably shouldn't have even been in the lineup, but the only other option would have been to swing Peat out to tackle and put Clapp at LG and that would have probably been worse.

K Major · 11-13-2019, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Andrus was playing poorly before he went down & I'm not speaking of just the ATL game either. This is a #13 pick from the 2015 draft who at times has been very underwhelming. Peat is not awful but average. I saw the replay of the Falcons game and he was STEAM ROLLED

multiple times. This is unacceptable from a 1st rounder.

If a player struggles (ARMSTEAD) with injuries, they need to be elite like Armstead. I can live with a guy who gives 100% every time he suits up (even if he has the flu) vs a Peat who is a marginal blocker, on again/off again from week to week.

If and when the time comes for the Saints front office to say good bye to Armstead, you better have a damn good back up plan in place for his replacement.

yungbreesus · 11-13-2019, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years.

Peat wasn't great but some of those sacks came on the 6th and even 7th second after the snap. Situational awareness. If you know your LG is getting whooped, after 4 seconds you need to get out of the pocket or throw the ball away, or attempt a pass. this game felt like drew trying to get back all the stats he missed while he was out and sean being totally on board with it with the playcalling.

no doubt Peat is the weakest link and some of those sacks were him getting just totally blown off the line, but drew played terribly. if he comes out this sunday and doesn't check out of the run plays and runs the offense in a sensible manner, none of this matters. if he has another performance like he did against atlanta, it's panic mode.

AsylumGuido · 11-13-2019, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by yungbreesus

Peat wasn't great but some of those sacks came on the 6th and even 7th second after the snap. Situational awareness. If you know your LG is getting whooped, after 4 seconds you need to get out of the pocket or throw the ball away, or attempt a pass. this game felt like drew trying to get back all the stats he missed while he was out and sean being totally on board with it with the playcalling.

no doubt Peat is the weakest link and some of those sacks were him getting just totally blown off the line, but drew played terribly. if he comes out this sunday and doesn't check out of the run plays and runs the offense in a sensible manner, none of this matters. if he has another performance like he did against atlanta, it's panic mode.

Sorry, dude, but this is asinine. If you seriously believe that Brees and/or Payton had any thoughts whatsoever about any personal stat in this scenario then you know nothing about the game of football. The Saints got down big when they were trying to run the ball on offense and the defense kept making drive extending mistakes. Going to the air was forced by the game situation and Atlanta's defense. This isn't fantasy football.

And as for the time holding the ball on the six sacks ... watch the video of all six sacks.

Sack 1: 4 sec
Sack 2: 4 sec
Sack 3: 4 sec
Sack 4: 6 sec
Sack 5: 3 sec
Sack 6: 3 sec

Every sack by the Falcons on Drew Brees \| Week 10 - YouTube

Only ONE of those sacks came in over FOUR seconds. That 4th sack came on the sixth second and was with eight players in coverage.

11-12-2019, 06:03 PM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brees is done I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. jnormand and Audiotom like this.
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11-12-2019, 06:52 PM	#2
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game. Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles. Rugby Saint II, st thomas and Audiotom like this.

11-12-2019, 07:02 PM	#3
Rueben Mayes 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 134	Re: Brees is done start the cliche counter here Who Dats... since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome... "The NFL is a week to week league"....so true. Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.) Danno, leilung, Budsdrinker and 4 others like this.
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11-13-2019, 07:10 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes start the cliche counter here Who Dats... since I have heard this on a few occasions by some pundits I do agree with it and I am trying to use it to help cope with such a poor showing in the Dome... "The NFL is a week to week league"....so true. Also, "Any Given Sunday" applies here I think and should serve as a reminder to our beloved Saints that because a loss can happen on any given Sunday ya gotta get up for each and every one of the 16 games that are played unless you clinch early and then it might be permissible to altar your team's strategy(resting starters, etc.) This ^^^ .

11-13-2019, 10:25 AM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Drew should have had over 300 yards...he threw the ball 45 times! The middle of our line was the weakest link, especially after Peat got hurt. Armstead might have been responsible for one sack and that was because they collapsed the pocket keeping Brees from being able to step up. The entire line played bad overall even Ram allowed a sack. If you think we are better off without Armstead then you might have lost a few IQ points. He is one of the best LTs in the game. Play action didn’t fool anyone because they didn’t run the ball! This was on Brees and Payton with the play calling and audibles. You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT.
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11-13-2019, 10:39 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT. He is voodooido. You can count the bad games with TA on one hand. Armstead along with Ramz have locked up premier pass rushers all season, but the sky is now falling after the ATL game? No excuses on the flu bug but it was painfully obvious that he was not himself. He's elite at LT. It's football. Good teams can lose on any given Sunday. Meanwhile Clapp is a "back up" for a reason. Rsanders24, ChrisXVI and Audiotom like this.

11-13-2019, 10:43 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido You may want to watch the game again. TA and Clapp got destroyed all game. 95% of the pressures came from those two. There is no was TA is a top LT. Armstead is absolutely an elite left tackle. What we saw on Sunday was a player that had missed practice leading into the game because of fighting the flu. If you have ever had the flu you would remember how much it can take out of you. It takes several days to get back to normal. He probably shouldn't have even been in the lineup, but the only other option would have been to swing Peat out to tackle and put Clapp at LG and that would have probably been worse. Rsanders24, 73Saint and st thomas like this.

11-13-2019, 08:28 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. Andrus was playing poorly before he went down & I'm not speaking of just the ATL game either. This is a #13 pick from the 2015 draft who at times has been very underwhelming. Peat is not awful but average. I saw the replay of the Falcons game and he was STEAM ROLLED multiple times. This is unacceptable from a 1st rounder. If a player struggles (ARMSTEAD) with injuries, they need to be elite like Armstead. I can live with a guy who gives 100% every time he suits up (even if he has the flu) vs a Peat who is a marginal blocker, on again/off again from week to week. If and when the time comes for the Saints front office to say good bye to Armstead, you better have a damn good back up plan in place for his replacement.

11-13-2019, 11:21 AM	#9
yungbreesus Registered Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 56	Re: Brees is done Originally Posted by voodooido I feel like I lost 10 iq points just reading this thread. Drew had 0 time to throw and still went for almost 300. TA needs traded or released in the offseason and peat is a lot better than we thought. Peat goes down and all hell broke loose. Drew has 3 more good years. Peat wasn't great but some of those sacks came on the 6th and even 7th second after the snap. Situational awareness. If you know your LG is getting whooped, after 4 seconds you need to get out of the pocket or throw the ball away, or attempt a pass. this game felt like drew trying to get back all the stats he missed while he was out and sean being totally on board with it with the playcalling. no doubt Peat is the weakest link and some of those sacks were him getting just totally blown off the line, but drew played terribly. if he comes out this sunday and doesn't check out of the run plays and runs the offense in a sensible manner, none of this matters. if he has another performance like he did against atlanta, it's panic mode.
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