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Danno 11-16-2019 02:07 PM

Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout
 
I have always cheered for the uniform. I'm not a big fan of who's wearing it.

But, if we were to sign this jerk I'd probably stop watching my Saints.

I'm sure I'm not the only one either.

God Bless America. Kapernick... not so much.

rezburna 11-16-2019 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867608)
:rofl:

Gotta keep that pretty going on, right?

You know it!

vpheughan 11-16-2019 03:35 PM

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Interesting situation here.

The Player decides to become "an activist". Said player kneels during the National Anthem, gets cut and out of the NFL.

The Player then files a lawsuit against the league contending "collusion" kept him from getting picked up by another team. Agrees to an "out of court" settlement and gets an unknown amount of $$$$$$$$$$$.

The Player then turns around and wants back in.

The same NFL he agreed to a settlement with "Invites" interested teams to come see The Player work out.

I keep hearing DIre Straights "Money For Nothing" playing as I type this.

Why? Glad you asked!

If The Player gets no offers, what's to keep him from filing a "collusion suit" against the owners of the teams that sent "representatives" to his dog and phony show?

He's crazy like a FOX!! We all know the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in MONEY IS SILENT!!! "I want to, I want to, I want to take a Knee"

BREAD AND CIRCUSES

The Player is about to prove P.T. Barnum right!! "There's a sucker born every minute!!"

One more! Knee starts with a K!!!!!!

Utah_Saint 11-16-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 867557)
This post is very misleading in different ways. It's cool if you don't like him, but at least tell the whole story.

Whole story would be too long, I wanted to focus solely on football. That's why I figured I'd summarize by showing some of his horrible lifetime stats.

I guess some more of the story could be...

He couldn't read a defense if they wore name tags.
Notorious for never reading through his progressions.
Took way too many sacks.
In 2015 it was widely reported that he was not popular in the locker room.
The 49ers made it very public that they wanted to get rid of him before his contract was up.
He went 11-24 in his last three seasons with a Super Bowl caliber team.

And then he kneeled.

If you wanna lionize him for his social stances, that's cool, but lets not pretend he was anything more than a below average qb.

rezburna 11-16-2019 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 867622)
Whole story would be too long, I wanted to focus solely on football. That's why I figured I'd summarize by showing some of his horrible lifetime stats.

I guess some more of the story could be...

He couldn't read a defense if they wore name tags.
Notorious for never reading through his progressions.
Took way too many sacks.
In 2015 it was widely reported that he was not popular in the locker room.
The 49ers made it very public that they wanted to get rid of him before his contract was up.
He went 11-24 in his last three seasons with a Super Bowl caliber team.

And then he kneeled.

If you wanna lionize him for his social stances, that's cool, but lets not pretend he was anything more than a below average qb.

His last year as a QB he had 2,241 yards and 16 TD’s to 4 INT’s. 468 yards and 2 TD’s on the ground as well. Not to mention, those teams were far from Super Bowl caliber after Harbaugh left. At the very least he should be a backup and on a NFL roster. He’s not a bum. When he was coming out they worried about him coming from a system that was based on the pistol. Guess what offense is popular in the NFL now?

Thirty3 11-16-2019 08:07 PM

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A running offense

jnormand 11-16-2019 08:15 PM

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Well after the bs he pulled today and made even more of a distraction and trying to make sure Nike got their brand in there....any team that signs him deserves what they get.

This was just a publicity stunt for that clown because he was starting to lose media attention. He needed back in the limelight.

Lol. What a hack.

iceshack149 11-16-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867613)
Interesting situation here.

The Player decides to become "an activist". Said player kneels during the National Anthem, gets cut and out of the NFL.

The Player then files a lawsuit against the league contending "collusion" kept him from getting picked up by another team. Agrees to an "out of court" settlement and gets an unknown amount of $$$$$$$$$$$.

The Player then turns around and wants back in.

The same NFL he agreed to a settlement with "Invites" interested teams to come see The Player work out.

I keep hearing DIre Straights "Money For Nothing" playing as I type this.

Why? Glad you asked!

If The Player gets no offers, what's to keep him from filing a "collusion suit" against the owners of the teams that sent "representatives" to his dog and phony show?

He's crazy like a FOX!! We all know the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in MONEY IS SILENT!!! "I want to, I want to, I want to take a Knee"

BREAD AND CIRCUSES

The Player is about to prove P.T. Barnum right!! "There's a sucker born every minute!!"

One more! Knee starts with a K!!!!!!

I understood your post at the beginning but it's like you got drunk half way through.

Stephen A. Smith had a great take on this situation. It's a three minute video on the youtube if you're interested. He called out Kaepernick and said that this was a show for attention (and money). Kaepernick doesn't want to play football.
Stephen A. Smith knows what it means to do things for attention.

RailBoss 11-16-2019 09:17 PM

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Can't wait for the next thread..

shawnkytonk 11-17-2019 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 867579)
When all else fails? What failed? Your ability to comprehend that Colin Kaepernick is a complete fraud, because your ignorant, liberal ears are painfully sensitive to the slightest hint of truth?

And calling you "little guy" has nothing to do with my presumption of your age. Given your attitude in your posts, and seeing as how you are obviously liberal, you could be 12 or just as easily 100. It makes no difference with folks like yourself. It's the "little man" comments you make. Mocking me and saying "Jesus isn't smiling on you" because you don't agree with my opinion. Those are comments that little kids make when they are too dense to think of a substantive reply.

Understand now?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/commen...m_medium=web2x

Only thing to understand is the ridiculousness of your existence.

shawnkytonk 11-17-2019 04:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 867622)
Whole story would be too long, I wanted to focus solely on football. That's why I figured I'd summarize by showing some of his horrible lifetime stats.

I guess some more of the story could be...

He couldn't read a defense if they wore name tags.
Notorious for never reading through his progressions.
Took way too many sacks.
In 2015 it was widely reported that he was not popular in the locker room.
The 49ers made it very public that they wanted to get rid of him before his contract was up.
He went 11-24 in his last three seasons with a Super Bowl caliber team.

And then he kneeled.

If you wanna lionize him for his social stances, that's cool, but lets not pretend he was anything more than a below average qb.

Lots of holes in this analysis, and taking the time to point what is wrong probably want do any good. People only believe what they want to. Calling him below average is just not reality, but you're entitled to that opinion.

subguy 11-17-2019 05:34 AM

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A disgrace...average talent for a QB. I don't hear Tebow saying he has been black balled, and he was another average talent, who wasn't worthy of an NFL starting QB slot.

Colin should in fact start his own marketing company. He has been masterful in manipulation and marketing. It is a marketing agencies job to create interest in a product that more than likely wouldn't stand on it's own merit. Today's manipulation and shenanigans, or always feeling you are special and needing things on your own terms, should prove he doesn't want to play, he wants the attention. Good riddance to Colin he should fade off an get another job just like Tim Tebow.

Despite of his attention grabbing and political antics, I have tried to champion for him based solely on football skills, but he has proven he is mediocre at best, on the field and off the field. At the end of the day football was his job and we are talking about the sport.

I am not trying to be harsh. Sometimes it is best to know when to ride off into the sunset, move along nothing to see here.

Crusader 11-18-2019 09:45 AM

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dam1953 11-18-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 867646)
A disgrace...average talent for a QB. I don't hear Tebow saying he has been black balled, and he was another average talent, who wasn't worthy of an NFL starting QB slot.

Colin should in fact start his own marketing company. He has been masterful in manipulation and marketing. It is a marketing agencies job to create interest in a product that more than likely wouldn't stand on it's own merit. Today's manipulation and shenanigans, or always feeling you are special and needing things on your own terms, should prove he doesn't want to play, he wants the attention. Good riddance to Colin he should fade off an get another job just like Tim Tebow.

Despite of his attention grabbing and political antics, I have tried to champion for him based solely on football skills, but he has proven he is mediocre at best, on the field and off the field. At the end of the day football was his job and we are talking about the sport.

I am not trying to be harsh. Sometimes it is best to know when to ride off into the sunset, move along nothing to see here.

I agree with most of your points. The exception being the idea of him starting a marketing agency. The guy ain't that smart. In my opinion he's a puppet and someone is pulling his strings... Probably Nike's marketing department.

SmashMouth 11-18-2019 04:24 PM

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They released his workout video...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/02b2...6cf4/tenor.gif

AsylumGuido 11-18-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 868123)

:roflmao:

Okay, that's funny.

st thomas 11-18-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 868125)
:roflmao:



Okay, that's funny.



It is funny I see the video cam in front of him


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saintfan 11-18-2019 06:19 PM

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The Dude 11-18-2019 09:10 PM

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The problem is that all the people outraged about how “persecuted “ he was know absolutely nothing about the game of football. They may have heard his name in the same sentence as Super Bowl several years back but that’s it. You have to follow professional football and not just your home team to know the whole story. Believe it or not about 80% of fans only watch their home team and then only IF they are doing well. They don’t follow the NFL until MAYBE the playoffs. It’s more of a social gathering thing for most people.
I have talked to tons of people who come to his defense yet can’t tell you what team he played for.

SmashMouth 11-19-2019 02:38 AM

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TheOak 11-19-2019 05:37 AM

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Kaepernick brought to his workout the exact reason no one wants to touch him... drama.

- Wasn't happy with the original day.
- Demanded to know who would be there in advance.
- Changed the venue at the last minute.

The 'all about me' train derailed his career.

It doesn't matter if he can run a 3s 40yd or throw a 200 yard bullet, he has none of the qualities you look for in a QB or leader.

saintsfan1976 11-19-2019 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 867585)
I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day.

When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.

I view Taysom as humble, do "anything for the team" player who's accomplished at just about every position on the field - with a smile.

I view Kap as somewhat divisive and obviously distracting. All things you want to avoid when cohesiveness is paramount to winning.

Besides, you can find half a dozen QBs with the same skills for less money. His latest workout proved that.

saintfan 11-19-2019 09:30 AM

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Kaepernick develoved this attitude when he started dating an activist radio host in Oakland. Very clear to see. He's not genuine. His "activism" was motivated from below his waist.

He doesn't vote, a right 'his people' fought and died for, but walks around praising "Che" and wearing a Kunta Kinte t-shirt.

LOL. What a maroon. That anyone would take him seriously is an indictment on them.

SmashMouth 11-19-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 868210)
Kaepernick develoved this attitude when he started dating an activist radio host in Oakland. Very clear to see. He's not genuine. His "activism" was motivated from below his waist.

He doesn't vote, a right 'his people' fought and died for, but walks around praising "Che" and wearing a Kunta Kinte t-shirt.

LOL. What a maroon. That anyone would take him seriously is an indictment on them.

Precisely.... Stephen A Smith agrees with you.

Rugby Saint II 11-19-2019 12:04 PM

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He's still at home right? That's where people with little to no football talent should be. SP wants a leader who brings unity to the team. He is not that player.

dam1953 11-19-2019 01:25 PM

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This "workout" was little more than a PR stunt. The guy hasn't played NFL football since 2016 and he suuuked that last season, only winning two games against the equally bad Rams. On top of that he and comes with a crap-ton of baggage. This "tryout" was scheduled so Nike could squeeze a few more dollars out of the Kaepernick endorsement / marketing campaign. Nike don't care about Kaepernick's cause unless is sells shoes (PERIOD)

Now that that is done with (HOPEFULLY)....can KweperNike do us all favor and go away like every other SB loosing QB. Go away mad if you want. I don't care. Just go away.

Unfortunately, that probably won't happen until he's no longer useful to Nike. Lord knows the NFL teams reached that conclusion in 2016.

saintsfan1976 11-20-2019 04:55 AM

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Interesting read. Even if true it's hard to blame the league for return posture, considering Kaepernik is positioning for another lawsuit.

https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...lawsuit/524647

subguy 11-20-2019 06:29 AM

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His drama bores me. We watch the same way we crane our necks to see a roadside accident. He doesn't want to play football. His selfishness and manipulation doesn't warrant the media attention. Why have special concessions been made for him? Why? I feel other QB's who have not been able to work after mediocre careers, now have the opportunity to ask why as well. The NFL is beginning to look foolish and needs to move on. It appears to be a case of the squeaky wheel getting oiled, but the squeaky wheel in no longer employed by an NFL team, it makes no sense. We need to quit rewarding mediocrity in this time of everyone getting a trophy for participating. This thread perpetuates his drama, as do I here. I guess I am as guilty of keeping this alive.

TheOak 11-20-2019 07:59 AM

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I believe many people have trouble articulating what exactly they don't like about what he did... I have no trouble with that.

We are a nation founded on dissent and to resist through protest is quintessentially American; we do not just do it, we founded a new nation doing it. Being a veteran and defending the Constitution is irrelevant here, The US Constitution only limits the governments ability to prosecute for speech, not the free public or private sector persecuting it.

To campaign and advertise that you will stage a protest to allow people to join you and then protest in public takes a bit of character, bravery, and drive.

To forcibly subject an unwilling, unsuspecting, captive audience to your off-top protest is cowardice. Kaepernick, college Professors, teachers that use a venue specific to something as their pulpit to force an audience to be subjected to their personal believes and feelings is very low character.

If you can not do the 'right thing' the 'right way' then you are no better than the cops that justify abuse under the guise of enforcing the law.

saintfan 11-20-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 868292)
To forcibly subject an unwilling, unsuspecting, captive audience to your off-top protest is cowardice. Kaepernick, college Professors, teachers that use a venue specific to something as their pulpit to force an audience to be subjected to their personal believes and feelings is very low character.

If you can not do the 'right thing' the 'right way' then you are no better than the cops that justify abuse under the guise of enforcing the law.

Exceptionally well said Sir.

rezburna 11-20-2019 10:46 AM

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Why is this thread still going? Workout is over. Arm looked good all things considered. Still won’t get a job even though he deserves to at least be a back up. There’s a racial divide on the issue. We all get it. Saints play the Panthers this weekend. Dead the ****.

iceshack149 11-20-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 868315)
Why is this thread still going? Workout is over. Arm looked good all things considered. Still won’t get a job even though he deserves to at least be a back up. There’s a racial divide on the issue. We all get it. Saints play the Panthers this weekend. Dead the ****.

All these thoughtful responses and you still take the lazy route of considering those that don't agree with Kaepernick's ulterior motives racist.

Also, the thread is still going because you kept it going.

cmike 11-20-2019 01:09 PM

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I agree With Kap’s message 100%. But he was 100% the wrong person to deliver it.
Can we please move on to Carolina.

rezburna 11-20-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 868319)
All these thoughtful responses and you still take the lazy route of considering those that don't agree with Kaepernick's ulterior motives racist.

Also, the thread is still going because you kept it going.

That’s your interpretation. I said there’s a racial divide on the issue. There is. His entire stance was centered around race. The thread pops back up to the top every few hours and the responses are usually non-football related. If you don’t like the guy then ignore him. If I wanted to call somebody a racist I would. I’m not afraid to speak my mind. So again, Panthers on Sunday. Or would you rather keep making implications and assumptions?

frydaddy 11-20-2019 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 868315)
Why is this thread still going? Workout is over. Arm looked good all things considered. Still won’t get a job even though he deserves to at least be a back up. There’s a racial divide on the issue. We all get it. Saints play the Panthers this weekend. Dead the ****.

All his politics and antics to the side, I thought he looked awful. He still has a strong arm, but his mechanics have gotten worse. He still has no touch and spotty accuracy at best. He's just not good, not even backup level good. He had a little over one good season, then defenses figured him out. If he had legitimate talent he'd have a job. Plenty of head cases and "activists" have jobs in the league. He needs to accept that he's done and move on with his life.

rezburna 11-20-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 868328)
All his politics and antics to the side, I thought he looked awful. He still has a strong arm, but his mechanics have gotten worse. He still has no touch and spotty accuracy at best. He's just not good, not even backup level good. He had a little over one good season, then defenses figured him out. If he had legitimate talent he'd have a job. Plenty of head cases and "activists" have jobs in the league. He needs to accept that he's done and move on with his life.

I don’t mind a football debate. Personally, I think he lacked touch for most of his career and that was what impeded his accuracy. I’ll say this, he doesn’t throw a lot of interceptions. He adds the dynamic of being able to take over a game with his legs. I think he fits the mold of where offenses are headed. I’d bet any amount of money he’s one of the 32 best QB’s in the league, but at the very least 64.

Now if you say the headache outweighs the play, it’s hard to argue that. But talent wise, I think the opinions of him as a person affect the outlook on him as a player. Now one might say my opinion is biased, but I don’t agree with “protesting“ oppression. You fight oppression, but that’s just my outlook. His kneeling didn’t bother me nor did it excite me. His activism is cool, but we’ve have activists for years and the socioeconomic standing remains largely the same. I don’t believe that to be the way to go. Is he genuine? I don’t know. I don’t care. We could ask that question about anybody.

I say all that say that I don’t care if he gets a job or not. If it’s **** the NFL then it’s **** the NFL. I wouldn’t expect to get my job back if I sued the company. But talent wise, should he be in the league? I say yeah. I’ve seen attacks on his leadership and whether or not he’d divide a locker room. I’ve spent a lot of time in locker rooms. They’re already divided on these issues. Trust me.

The same way America is divided on these issues but will come together to deal with a larger threat is the same way a football team operates. That’s the whole reason they tell you to avoid talking politics and **** at work. I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I need you, jobs done, I hate you again. That’s how this **** works. That’s how it’s always worked. Sometimes you find some common ground and build on that. Sometimes you don’t. Just live and enjoy this **** while it lasts.

SmashMouth 11-21-2019 09:33 PM

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saintsfan1976 11-22-2019 06:42 AM

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How does anyone “deserve” a job in the NFL?

burningmetal 11-22-2019 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 867644)
https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/commen...m_medium=web2x

Only thing to understand is the ridiculousness of your existence.

Oh, ahahahah! I gawrt it! A picture of guys laughing... HAR HAR HAR!

You keep proving my point about you.

spkb25 11-22-2019 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 868471)
Oh, ahahahah! I gawrt it! A picture of guys laughing... HAR HAR HAR!

You keep proving my point about you.

Sometimes I swear that guy is another poster...


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