Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

Rereading your reply looking for those supposed "facts" to which you refer as the "reason" for the reduced snaps for Davenport in the Bucs game. The ONLY fact for the reason is the statement from Payton saying that the lack of the running game by the Bucs reduced the need for the defensive package that included Davenport. All you supplied were personal speculations that in no way can be taken as fact in the eyes of team management. I haven't heard anything coming from the front office supporting your personal opinions on the reduced snaps for that game. Sounds pretty pessimistic to me.

So, in your personal opinion you feel that Davenport is showing 1.) poor play, and 2.) not enough juice getting to the QB.

Can you point out some tangible examples of Davenport's poor play that would cause the Saints coaching staff to reduce his snap counts in the Tampa game?

And explain not enough juice getting to the QB. If Davenport is indeed involved in the defensive package (as explained by K_Major earlier) he would be responsible for protecting against the run first and then pressuring the QB. This differs from the package in which Hendrickson has been identified by Payton as being a part. Hendrickson job is a straight out rush on the QB with no run responsibility.

We have a deep group of defensive linemen that can be rotated based upon scheme that utilizes the individual strengths of the individual players. That is a good thing.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

Dang.... Hate when I have to agree with AG...

Truth is, Davenport is doing well rushing the passer, and consider, the 2nd year is when players take a step back (usually) before exploding in their 3rd year (see Marcus Williams).

"He’s notched 38 pressures so far, the ninth-most among edge defenders, with 27 hurries to his credit (8th) to go along with three sacks and a pass-rush productivity of 9.9, which is tied with T.J. Watt for 11th among players at his position."

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-new-orl...proved-players

Davenport is shaping up well, some players just need a good rotation and plays off.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

Thank you for the discussion, have a great day

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

I'm hoping we see some urgency this next game. Early on this year he was very impressive for a 2nd year guy. He has definitely cooled off and his snap production was at 70, then 50, and this game 30 percent. The talent appears to be there. Hopeful to see more out of him this week.

We have a great dline, no doubt Bout it.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

Precisely.

See Trey "T Rex" Hendrickson as well. 3rd year, he's been a beast coming off the edge.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

It makes sense that Davenport's overall snap count would go down as the defensive packages became more defined. At the beginning of the season four defensive linemen were all getting close to 80% or more of the snaps. In the Chicago game none of the defensive linemen were in for more than 69%. Davenport had the most defensive snaps at that 69% and then Jordan, Alonzo, Rankins and Onyamata. Edwards, Brown and Tuttle all had significant snaps. It appeared the package rotation was fully in place at that point.

In the Falcons game Jordan was the only lineman with over 54% of the defensive snaps. Seven other DL players were splitting time. The snap count of all the original four players with high counts had dropped significantly. Those players were all in the 70% plus range early on, then all dropped down into the 50% range, Henrickson jumped up in the same game that Davenport dropped down. Payton explained why.

You can expect to see more of Davenport IF the Panthers running game remains active, but if they get down big and go strictly to the pass you may see the same result again. Personally, I doubt Carolina will abandon the run to that degree even if they get down early. McCaffrey is too important a part of their game to completely take the ball out of his hands on the ground.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

Especially with the way Allen is playing recently. They want to run the ball and then sprinkle in the play action for pass. They do not want Allen just having to drop back and pass the ball.

I think we will continue to see heavy rotation between Davenport and Trey and if it continues to work for the team then what is their to complain about...

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

The stranger part is Davenport was drafted to get after the QB. Trey also wasn't a top 15 pick. Its not supposed to take a top 15 picks 3 years in the league.

I hope he shows what he showed early on this year. He started off looking like he was going to be a monster. I remember posting multiple times on the board how much pressure and how solid he was playing. There's been a fall off and it is noticeable.

I hope maybe this past week was a kick in the balls for him and lights that fire.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

It's some peoples nature to complain. This defensive strategy worked well for the Eagles a couple of years ago.

Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs
 

A recent quote from sports analyst John Sigler :

"He’ll have down games where he’s simply outplayed by more experienced opponents. But the mere fact that leading the team (and maybe the rest of the NFL) in quarterback pressures is possible is noteworthy. Once he starts finishing his rushes better and gets opportunities to make a play rather than facilitate for someone else, the sacks will come."

Got to give him time boss. Just like Rankins ... & he's a beast now.