Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

spkb25 · 11-23-2019, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

This has been a very informative debate. I am wondering if his toe is still bothering him since he isn't fast off the line at the snap? Personally, I like him. He is quite an athlete and I enjoy watching him play. He never quits no matter how far away the football is and is always hustling no matter what the score.

Would make sense. Something is different. Early on he was dominant.

Rell&Gold · 11-23-2019, 11:57 PM

Prior to Trey getting Hurt Him and Davenport were splitting snaps

Rell&Gold · 11-24-2019, 12:10 AM

Is Fine, as far as development goes being technical he's further along than Can was at this time so.

K Major · 11-24-2019, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

This has been a very informative debate. I am wondering if his toe is still bothering him since he isn't fast off the line at the snap? Personally, I like him. He is quite an athlete and I enjoy watching him play. He never quits no matter how far away the football is and is always hustling no matter what the score.

That "toe" looks fine to me boss.

He made 2 crucial plays today. We don't win without his efforts.

Rsanders24 · 11-24-2019, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Oh I see all good points, not complaints. Yesss, when you see something not going well it is a good point. For other people it is complaining. Thank you for explaining. I had a feeling it was something like that.

Um didnt trey play the first 3 or 4 games this season? Because that was when he had 70%. It was actually after that it went to 60 then 50 and this week 34. I feel like trey was out the last few weeks. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems it is possible your analyses might be completely off.

Sheldon I couldn't tell you what he is up to because I haven't heard his name at all. I literally forgot he was on the team. Does he even have a sack ? How many tackles does he have?

You are right about Trey. He actually started the year off with a bang. I made a mistake and was still looking at Rankins stats when thinking about Trey. Everyone played more snaps on the D line because Rankins was the missing piece. Since then when you look at the numbers, it looks like they are managing work load and trying to keep the D line fresh. It's hard to take Cam off the field when he is one of the top 3 players on the defense and the key to the D line. Trey is ok against the run...definitely better against the pass but he is also a penalty magnet for hands to the face.

Sheldon has been very down this season in production...one sack...maybe he isnt at 100% from his injury.

Overall they did a great job controlling the line of scrimmage today and MD played well also....with a couple.of key pressures.

Danno · 11-26-2019, 04:29 PM

Our top 5 defensive players according to PFF

-Sheldon Rankins - 59.8...Last week 60.9
-Malcom Brown - 70.9...Last week 68.3
-David Onyemata - 64.1...Last week 65.3
-Mario Edwards - 71.8...Last week 62.9
-Shy Tuttle - 68.3...Last week 63.6

-Cameron Jordan - 82.7...Last week 82.0
-Marcus Davenport - 78.1...Last week 76.1
-Trey Hendrickson - 53.0...Last week 58.1
-Carl Granderson - 30.5

-Demario Davis - 86.1...Last week 83.9
-A.J. Klein - 40.0...Last week 37.7
-Kiki Alonso - 69.2...Last week 74.4
-Craig Robertson - 65.3
-Stephone Anthony - N/A

-Marshon Lattimore - 69.5
-Eli Apple - 71.9...Last week 73.9
-PJ Williams - 52.3...Last week 59.6
-Patrick Robinson - 52.5...Last week 59.6
-Justin Hardee - 60.4
-Johnson Bademosi - 68.8

-Marcus Williams - 90.5...Last week 91.4
-Vonn Bell - 64.0...Last week 65.1
-Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - 68.1...Last week 72.9
-Saquan Hampton - 44.2
-J.T. Gray - 64.7M Williams

11-23-2019, 07:34 PM	#31
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II This has been a very informative debate. I am wondering if his toe is still bothering him since he isn't fast off the line at the snap? Personally, I like him. He is quite an athlete and I enjoy watching him play. He never quits no matter how far away the football is and is always hustling no matter what the score. Would make sense. Something is different. Early on he was dominant.

11-23-2019, 11:57 PM	#32
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Prior to Trey getting Hurt Him and Davenport were splitting snaps

11-24-2019, 12:10 AM	#33
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Is Fine, as far as development goes being technical he's further along than Can was at this time so.

11-24-2019, 09:40 PM	#34
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II This has been a very informative debate. I am wondering if his toe is still bothering him since he isn't fast off the line at the snap? Personally, I like him. He is quite an athlete and I enjoy watching him play. He never quits no matter how far away the football is and is always hustling no matter what the score. That "toe" looks fine to me boss. He made 2 crucial plays today. We don't win without his efforts.

11-24-2019, 11:17 PM	#35
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Originally Posted by spkb25 Oh I see all good points, not complaints. Yesss, when you see something not going well it is a good point. For other people it is complaining. Thank you for explaining. I had a feeling it was something like that. Um didnt trey play the first 3 or 4 games this season? Because that was when he had 70%. It was actually after that it went to 60 then 50 and this week 34. I feel like trey was out the last few weeks. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems it is possible your analyses might be completely off. Sheldon I couldn't tell you what he is up to because I haven't heard his name at all. I literally forgot he was on the team. Does he even have a sack ? How many tackles does he have? You are right about Trey. He actually started the year off with a bang. I made a mistake and was still looking at Rankins stats when thinking about Trey. Everyone played more snaps on the D line because Rankins was the missing piece. Since then when you look at the numbers, it looks like they are managing work load and trying to keep the D line fresh. It's hard to take Cam off the field when he is one of the top 3 players on the defense and the key to the D line. Trey is ok against the run...definitely better against the pass but he is also a penalty magnet for hands to the face. Sheldon has been very down this season in production...one sack...maybe he isnt at 100% from his injury. Overall they did a great job controlling the line of scrimmage today and MD played well also....with a couple.of key pressures. Crusader likes this.

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11-26-2019, 04:29 PM	#36
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs Our top 5 defensive players according to PFF -Sheldon Rankins - 59.8...Last week 60.9 -Malcom Brown - 70.9...Last week 68.3 -David Onyemata - 64.1...Last week 65.3 -Mario Edwards - 71.8...Last week 62.9 -Shy Tuttle - 68.3...Last week 63.6 -Cameron Jordan - 82.7...Last week 82.0 -Marcus Davenport - 78.1...Last week 76.1 -Trey Hendrickson - 53.0...Last week 58.1 -Carl Granderson - 30.5 -Demario Davis - 86.1...Last week 83.9 -A.J. Klein - 40.0...Last week 37.7 -Kiki Alonso - 69.2...Last week 74.4 -Craig Robertson - 65.3 -Stephone Anthony - N/A -Marshon Lattimore - 69.5 -Eli Apple - 71.9...Last week 73.9 -PJ Williams - 52.3...Last week 59.6 -Patrick Robinson - 52.5...Last week 59.6 -Justin Hardee - 60.4 -Johnson Bademosi - 68.8 -Marcus Williams - 90.5...Last week 91.4 -Vonn Bell - 64.0...Last week 65.1 -Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - 68.1...Last week 72.9 -Saquan Hampton - 44.2 -J.T. Gray - 64.7M Williams Crusader likes this.