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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It makes sense that Davenport's overall snap count would go down as the defensive packages became more defined. At the beginning of the season four defensive linemen were all getting close to 80% or more of ...

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Old 11-21-2019, 09:35 PM   #1
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
It makes sense that Davenport's overall snap count would go down as the defensive packages became more defined. At the beginning of the season four defensive linemen were all getting close to 80% or more of the snaps. In the Chicago game none of the defensive linemen were in for more than 69%. Davenport had the most defensive snaps at that 69% and then Jordan, Alonzo, Rankins and Onyamata. Edwards, Brown and Tuttle all had significant snaps. It appeared the package rotation was fully in place at that point.

In the Falcons game Jordan was the only lineman with over 54% of the defensive snaps. Seven other DL players were splitting time. The snap count of all the original four players with high counts had dropped significantly. Those players were all in the 70% plus range early on, then all dropped down into the 50% range, Henrickson jumped up in the same game that Davenport dropped down. Payton explained why.

You can expect to see more of Davenport IF the Panthers running game remains active, but if they get down big and go strictly to the pass you may see the same result again. Personally, I doubt Carolina will abandon the run to that degree even if they get down early. McCaffrey is too important a part of their game to completely take the ball out of his hands on the ground.
Especially with the way Allen is playing recently. They want to run the ball and then sprinkle in the play action for pass. They do not want Allen just having to drop back and pass the ball.

I think we will continue to see heavy rotation between Davenport and Trey and if it continues to work for the team then what is their to complain about...
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

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Especially with the way Allen is playing recently. They want to run the ball and then sprinkle in the play action for pass. They do not want Allen just having to drop back and pass the ball.

I think we will continue to see heavy rotation between Davenport and Trey and if it continues to work for the team then what is their to complain about...
It's some peoples nature to complain. This defensive strategy worked well for the Eagles a couple of years ago.
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Re: Sean Payton explains Marcus Davenport's low snap count vs. Bucs

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Especially with the way Allen is playing recently. They want to run the ball and then sprinkle in the play action for pass. They do not want Allen just having to drop back and pass the ball.

I think we will continue to see heavy rotation between Davenport and Trey and if it continues to work for the team then what is their to complain about...
I agree boss, too many complaints. Our WR are sad. Drew and the offense aren't good. I feel you. I'm sure they're not observations and opinion, but complaints. True story

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I agree boss, too many complaints. Our WR are sad. Drew and the offense aren't good. I feel you. I'm sure they're not observations and opinion, but complaints. True story

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Yeah boss...good points and all...fact of the matter is that only Jordan plays more than 70% of the snaps on the entire D line. So is Sheldon falling off too? Davenport had to play a high count at the beginning because Trey wasn’t available.

Offense is completely different because there are always several WRs on the field with Thomas and they still barely contribute to the passing game. Maybe the WRs are great at clearing things out for MT...and if that’s what Payton then we are complaining because we want to see something different.
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Yeah boss...good points and all...fact of the matter is that only Jordan plays more than 70% of the snaps on the entire D line. So is Sheldon falling off too? Davenport had to play a high count at the beginning because Trey wasn’t available.

Offense is completely different because there are always several WRs on the field with Thomas and they still barely contribute to the passing game. Maybe the WRs are great at clearing things out for MT...and if that’s what Payton then we are complaining because we want to see something different.
Oh I see all good points, not complaints. Yesss, when you see something not going well it is a good point. For other people it is complaining. Thank you for explaining. I had a feeling it was something like that.

Um didnt trey play the first 3 or 4 games this season? Because that was when he had 70%. It was actually after that it went to 60 then 50 and this week 34. I feel like trey was out the last few weeks. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems it is possible your analyses might be completely off.

Sheldon I couldn't tell you what he is up to because I haven't heard his name at all. I literally forgot he was on the team. Does he even have a sack ? How many tackles does he have?

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Oh I see all good points, not complaints. Yesss, when you see something not going well it is a good point. For other people it is complaining. Thank you for explaining. I had a feeling it was something like that.

Um didnt trey play the first 3 or 4 games this season? Because that was when he had 70%. It was actually after that it went to 60 then 50 and this week 34. I feel like trey was out the last few weeks. Maybe I'm wrong. But it seems it is possible your analyses might be completely off.

Sheldon I couldn't tell you what he is up to because I haven't heard his name at all. I literally forgot he was on the team. Does he even have a sack ? How many tackles does he have?
You are right about Trey. He actually started the year off with a bang. I made a mistake and was still looking at Rankins stats when thinking about Trey. Everyone played more snaps on the D line because Rankins was the missing piece. Since then when you look at the numbers, it looks like they are managing work load and trying to keep the D line fresh. It's hard to take Cam off the field when he is one of the top 3 players on the defense and the key to the D line. Trey is ok against the run...definitely better against the pass but he is also a penalty magnet for hands to the face.

Sheldon has been very down this season in production...one sack...maybe he isnt at 100% from his injury.

Overall they did a great job controlling the line of scrimmage today and MD played well also....with a couple.of key pressures.
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