Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler?

44Champs · 11-24-2019, 09:11 AM

Found this browsing through youtube. I havent really followed his progress much. What's the general concensus around here?

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 09:16 AM

I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over.

K Major · 11-24-2019, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over.

Put up big numbers in college, has a great attitude and has Curtis J as his position coach. IIRC he had a slight "set back" with an injury at camp.

I think in time, he could become more involved in our offense. If he sees action this year that would be fantastic but I expect him to show his worth in 2020. It just takes a little time.

st thomas · 11-24-2019, 09:38 AM

Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open.

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open.

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Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr.

st thomas · 11-24-2019, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr.

I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing.

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing.

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I think our system is just so precise and everybody has to do their job that Payton doesn’t want young star WR’s coming in freelancing and doing things their way.

WhoDat!656 · 11-25-2019, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr.

You left off Brandin Cooks

dizzle88 · 11-24-2019, 11:39 AM

3 weeks ago there were articles released saying that Keith Kirkwood was healthy and coming back. Since then, absolutely nothing...

Rugby Saint II · 11-25-2019, 03:29 PM

We've been putting most of #1 picks on the O-line or the D-line and draft resources are limited. We got MT in the second round and AK in the third round I believe. Tre Smith has not been the receiver we had hoped for and was considered a bit of a reach in the third round. We won't have Drew making receivers look better than they actually are for much longer and we need another dynamic receiver.

I believe that it's time to invest a high round draft pick in a WR but we don't have a second rounder this year and we need to replace at least one player on the left side of the O-line. Where will we get this difference maker? I'm not sure but I don't believe that we are currently developing that guy.

11-24-2019, 09:16 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over. K Major likes this.

11-24-2019, 09:36 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over. Put up big numbers in college, has a great attitude and has Curtis J as his position coach. IIRC he had a slight "set back" with an injury at camp. I think in time, he could become more involved in our offense. If he sees action this year that would be fantastic but I expect him to show his worth in 2020. It just takes a little time.

11-24-2019, 09:38 AM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-24-2019, 10:02 AM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by st thomas Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr. st thomas likes this.

11-24-2019, 11:46 AM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr. I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ChrisXVI likes this.

11-24-2019, 12:10 PM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by st thomas I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think our system is just so precise and everybody has to do their job that Payton doesn’t want young star WR’s coming in freelancing and doing things their way.

11-25-2019, 09:32 PM	#8
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr. You left off Brandin Cooks

11-24-2019, 11:39 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? 3 weeks ago there were articles released saying that Keith Kirkwood was healthy and coming back. Since then, absolutely nothing... Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-25-2019, 03:29 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? We've been putting most of #1 picks on the O-line or the D-line and draft resources are limited. We got MT in the second round and AK in the third round I believe. Tre Smith has not been the receiver we had hoped for and was considered a bit of a reach in the third round. We won't have Drew making receivers look better than they actually are for much longer and we need another dynamic receiver. I believe that it's time to invest a high round draft pick in a WR but we don't have a second rounder this year and we need to replace at least one player on the left side of the O-line. Where will we get this difference maker? I'm not sure but I don't believe that we are currently developing that guy.
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