Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler?

44Champs · 11-24-2019, 10:11 AM

Found this browsing through youtube. I havent really followed his progress much. What's the general concensus around here?

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 10:16 AM

I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over.

K Major · 11-24-2019, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over.

Put up big numbers in college, has a great attitude and has Curtis J as his position coach. IIRC he had a slight "set back" with an injury at camp.

I think in time, he could become more involved in our offense. If he sees action this year that would be fantastic but I expect him to show his worth in 2020. It just takes a little time.

st thomas · 11-24-2019, 10:38 AM

Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open.

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open.

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Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr.

dizzle88 · 11-24-2019, 12:39 PM

3 weeks ago there were articles released saying that Keith Kirkwood was healthy and coming back. Since then, absolutely nothing...

st thomas · 11-24-2019, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr.

I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing.

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ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing.

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I think our system is just so precise and everybody has to do their job that Payton doesn’t want young star WR’s coming in freelancing and doing things their way.

Rugby Saint II · 11-25-2019, 04:29 PM

We've been putting most of #1 picks on the O-line or the D-line and draft resources are limited. We got MT in the second round and AK in the third round I believe. Tre Smith has not been the receiver we had hoped for and was considered a bit of a reach in the third round. We won't have Drew making receivers look better than they actually are for much longer and we need another dynamic receiver.

I believe that it's time to invest a high round draft pick in a WR but we don't have a second rounder this year and we need to replace at least one player on the left side of the O-line. Where will we get this difference maker? I'm not sure but I don't believe that we are currently developing that guy.

dizzle88 · 11-25-2019, 04:56 PM

The fact that Michael Gallup puts up numbers week in and week out makes me sick, when we have Tre'Quan running round looking like he has no clue what to do.

11-24-2019, 10:16 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over. K Major likes this.

11-24-2019, 10:36 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I still believe in Emmanuel Butler. I don’t think the training camp hype was unwarranted. He has a TON of potential. I think we’ll see him called up before the season’s over. Put up big numbers in college, has a great attitude and has Curtis J as his position coach. IIRC he had a slight "set back" with an injury at camp. I think in time, he could become more involved in our offense. If he sees action this year that would be fantastic but I expect him to show his worth in 2020. It just takes a little time.

11-24-2019, 10:38 AM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-24-2019, 11:02 AM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by st thomas Why do we have to continue to develop players , it rarely works out . We’ve flopped at drafting lineman, QBs , lbs, dbs in the past why not try a high end complete WR every once in a while. ala MT. It is what I thought he was a morning glory in racehorse speak. Beats everything for workouts but when it comes gametime he spits the bit. We don’t need another MT we need speed and a nack to spring open. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr. st thomas likes this.

11-24-2019, 12:39 PM	#6
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11-24-2019, 12:46 PM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Under Sean Payton we’ve never really signed young star WR’s. He’s always preferred to draft and develop/sign undrafted guys and mold them to fit the system. Sometimes it works... Lance Moore, Willie Snead, Brandon Coleman to a degree. Other times it doesn’t: Austin Carr. I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ChrisXVI likes this.

11-24-2019, 01:10 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? Originally Posted by st thomas I can just pull my freakin hair out sometimes over a no 2 wr. But ur exactly rite about Payton and his guys has to be his guys or nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think our system is just so precise and everybody has to do their job that Payton doesn’t want young star WR’s coming in freelancing and doing things their way.

11-25-2019, 04:29 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? We've been putting most of #1 picks on the O-line or the D-line and draft resources are limited. We got MT in the second round and AK in the third round I believe. Tre Smith has not been the receiver we had hoped for and was considered a bit of a reach in the third round. We won't have Drew making receivers look better than they actually are for much longer and we need another dynamic receiver. I believe that it's time to invest a high round draft pick in a WR but we don't have a second rounder this year and we need to replace at least one player on the left side of the O-line. Where will we get this difference maker? I'm not sure but I don't believe that we are currently developing that guy.
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11-25-2019, 04:56 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Video: Why Haven't Saints Called Up Emmanuel Butler? The fact that Michael Gallup puts up numbers week in and week out makes me sick, when we have Tre'Quan running round looking like he has no clue what to do. st thomas likes this.