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K Major 11-25-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 868991)
4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player.

How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs.

Agreed however Christian did not get a 100 yards rushing on the Saints D. Only 2.9 ypc ...

He simply abused us in the passing game though.

jeanpierre 11-25-2019 08:20 AM

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Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately...


SmashMouth 11-25-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869072)
We don't have the luxury of benching him.

But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR.

There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position.

Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

skymike 11-25-2019 09:25 AM

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7. Josh Hill is a great blocker in the running game. He is the type of player that flies under the radar but is really important on a roster.
-- YES. and we have a number of guys like him, average fans dont know, who make a huge difference.

9. I'm so glad our kicker is Wil Lutz and not Joey Slye.
-- Best K we've had since Morten.

jeanpierre 11-25-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 869093)
Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson...

Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results...

And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn...

Rsanders24 11-25-2019 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 869071)

I guess it time to rest him for the playoffs...was hoping we would have him back for 49ers but that doesnt look like it's going to happen.

He's good to miss about 6 games a season so I guess it's right on par...great talent when healthy. I am surprised by how well Easton has been playing considering he wasnt even active at the beginning of the season.

We cant afford to lose anyone else on the line.

Rsanders24 11-25-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869096)
A good football business argument could be made to have cut Ginn, kept Cyril Grayson...

Even if he ran the correct routes and still dropped the ball he'd be an improvement over what Ginn is giving in terms of effort, results...

And Grayson really is faster than everyone else and can back it up and would likely show up for a challenge unlike Ginn...

And also contribute on special teams with returns. We wouldn't have Kamara back there if we had Grayson.

K Major 11-25-2019 10:09 AM

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Speaking of WR's ...

How in the hell does Trequan Smith allow that corner to out jump him on that pbu? Wasn't that one of his strong points (high pointing the ball) coming out of UCF?

He's too tentatively for my taste. When the football is in the air, he needs to have the mentality that "it's mine". Go snag it man.

You either have dawg in you or not.

K Major 11-25-2019 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 869093)
Meanwhile Grayson is still out there. He's probably hungrier too.

In my mind and having watched him in training camp .. CG knew the playbook & was lining up correctly pre snap + he's a damn burner with world class speed. C'mon coach, you can't use this guy in that offense?

I know he had a few "mishaps" on covering punts @ t/camp but certainly I would have liked to see him more involved with this offense.

Anyway .. "we're on to Atlanta" ;).

vpheughan 11-25-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869080)
Rookie has played well, even picking up the slack from RG Warford lately...

https://twitter.com/PFF_Saints/statu...68756707450880

AS I MENTIONED IN AUGUST

Going back to 2009, teams have drafted 14 centers in the first two rounds. Thirteen of those 14 started at least 10 games during their rookie seasons. The only one who didn't was Rodney Hudson, who started just one game but played in all 16 as a rookie with the Kansas City Chiefs in 2011. This includes Ryan Kelly of the Colts.

spkb25 11-25-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 869051)
This one...

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...74085720600576


Notice there are two Williams getting smoked; PJ's not a normal starter, but Mr. Marcus has had a 90.0+ PFF grade and should never have allowed that WR to get behind him...

Now if you go back and watch the play on NFLN, Marcus commits, then Allen keys off of that bite and goes the other way, catching Mr. Marcus out of position - just as I stated in my post...

And if you hear Romo's analysis, he tells you exactly what happened...

PJ bit.

blackangold 11-25-2019 01:43 PM

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Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed...

Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew.

That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes.

Rugby Saint II 11-25-2019 02:59 PM

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I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact.

ChrisXVI 11-25-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 869119)
Another take away from me, that I haven’t seen listed...

Drew’s arm looks healthy right now. The zip on the ball was there and surprisingly he was able to throw the deep ball. Unfortunately Ginn blew both deep passes but they were good balls from Drew.

That’s a big difference from last year. This time last year you could see the zip start to fade from Drew’s passes.

Absolutely. That first one went about 60 yards. Very happy to see the old boy still has it.

TheOak 11-26-2019 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869072)
We don't have the luxury of benching him.

But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR.

There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position.

Help me with this one brother. I understand what you are thinking but not sure you have thought it through?

Ginn is a speed guy, that’s why he’s on the roster, problem is that he isn’t a hands receiver and nearly all of his catches are body catches. Now run through the mechanics in your head, long ball.... how in the **** do we have a body catching speed guy.... how do you hit a body catcher in stride with a long ball? I’m not completely convinced Drew isn’t aware of this and shorts him on occasion to force a body catch. Ginn should be limited to crossing routes where he can get separation and body catch.

All of that said, if he can’t catch then why can’t you bench him? It’s not like we need his hands.

TheOak 11-26-2019 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 869124)
I for one don't hold Cams penalty against him. He was punching at the ball and missed. On the next play a defender attempted to punch it out and Aikman pointed it out. The defense is opportunistic and we have punched out several balls this year. If anything I put that on the refs going after us because I'm not even sure he made contact.

Agreed it was an awkward I’ll timed jab at the ball. If not he punches like a girl lol.


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