Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

dizzle88 · 11-24-2019, 04:08 PM

Ginn dropped Brees best pass of the day, I think that would have essentially put the game away. Ginn needs to be benched, dude will cost us a game soon.

PJ Williams, same as above, has one good outing and then gets beat all game.

Refs were inexcusable - worst I've seen in a long time. Thomas got called for OPI for hand battling, Greg Olsen literally threw P-rob and nothing called.

Defense has to get better, those long drives they allowed were unreal at times and letting McCaffrey out of the backfield uncovered was ridiculous.

Game ball to Lutz, he was the difference.

Great job by Brees on the 2 min drive, forgetting that earlier int - just cant trust Trequan or Ginn to be honest.

Cam Jordan's stupidity gave the Panthers life, no reason for that punch, even if it was intended for the ball. Davis had Allen locked up for a huge loss. That swung the momentum big time.

WW_Who_Dat · 11-24-2019, 04:12 PM

4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player.

How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs.

K Major · 11-25-2019, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player.

How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs.

Agreed however Christian did not get a 100 yards rushing on the Saints D. Only 2.9 ypc ...

He simply abused us in the passing game though.

blackangold · 11-24-2019, 04:15 PM

Agree with most points, particularly the refs... it’s getting more and more obvious.

Aside from that, Defense played like trash. You have 1 guy to contain and you let him burn you every play. As someone else said he was wide open by 10yds half the time he caught the ball... poor coaching and bad defense by the secondary. Williams showed today why he isn’t a starting CB. We need Lattimore back against ATL!

cmike · 11-24-2019, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Agree with most points, particularly the refs... it’s getting more and more obvious.

Aside from that, Defense played like trash. You have 1 guy to contain and you let him burn you every play. As someone else said he was wide open by 10yds half the time he caught the ball... poor coaching and bad defense by the secondary. Williams showed today why he isn’t a starting CB. We need Lattimore back against ATL!

I think the defense did an ok job. PJ and play calling we’re just terrible. Those swing passes/sweeps they kept running hurt. It was like no one was covering guys out of the backfield.

SaintFanQ · 11-24-2019, 04:54 PM

Game observations from today! Too many penalties, AGAIN!!!! Good win though! WHO DAT!

Danno · 11-24-2019, 05:07 PM

I agree with all the good stuff listed above. And for the left side of the O-line to survive was great.

So far, the dumbest play of the entire year was Cam's gut punch. C'mon man. That was a 14 point swing. We had all the momentum, and I have no doubt we go up 21-0, game over.

But Noooooooooo, we just had to find a way to **** it up.

Even if the officiating wasn't one sided, there were still too many penalties. We have to play with better discipline. We are a great team playing sloppy football. Luckily our B-game will still beat most teams we play. If we play mistake free, no one in the league can beat us.

iceshack149 · 11-24-2019, 05:14 PM

Cam is a terrific player but that punch after the whistle was DUMB.

Armstead being carted off is nauseating and why isn't Kamara playing better?

Very glad that the Saints won this game because it was a hard game to watch. They need to keep winning to get the home field advantage (even though they haven't been playing well at home.)

jeanpierre · 11-24-2019, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I agree with all the good stuff listed above. And for the left side of the O-line to survive was great.

So far, the dumbest play of the entire year was Cam's gut punch. C'mon man. That was a 14 point swing. We had all the momentum, and I have no doubt we go up 21-0, game over.

But Noooooooooo, we just had to find a way to **** it up.

Even if the officiating wasn't one sided, there were still too many penalties. We have to play with better discipline. We are a great team playing sloppy football. Luckily our B-game will still beat most teams we play. If we play mistake free, no one in the league can beat us.

Yep, when your best player makes the stupidest play, it's gonna be a long day...

I'd also add, while it was obvious to Saints fans what he was trying to do, NFL optics could have had him ejected, and worse!

Garry42 · 11-25-2019, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yep, when your best player makes the stupidest play, it's gonna be a long day...

I'd also add, while it was obvious to Saints fans what he was trying to do, NFL optics could have had him ejected, and worse!

I watched the replay a number of times. It could have easily been an ejection call. Even with my Saints bias, it was close and intention could have been seriously questioned. I'm a huge Cam fan, but I can't say it was totally innocent.

11-24-2019, 04:08 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Ginn dropped Brees best pass of the day, I think that would have essentially put the game away. Ginn needs to be benched, dude will cost us a game soon. PJ Williams, same as above, has one good outing and then gets beat all game. Refs were inexcusable - worst I've seen in a long time. Thomas got called for OPI for hand battling, Greg Olsen literally threw P-rob and nothing called. Defense has to get better, those long drives they allowed were unreal at times and letting McCaffrey out of the backfield uncovered was ridiculous. Game ball to Lutz, he was the difference. Great job by Brees on the 2 min drive, forgetting that earlier int - just cant trust Trequan or Ginn to be honest. Cam Jordan's stupidity gave the Panthers life, no reason for that punch, even if it was intended for the ball. Davis had Allen locked up for a huge loss. That swung the momentum big time. neugey and cmike like this.
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11-24-2019, 04:12 PM	#2
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,275 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers 4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player. How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs.

11-25-2019, 08:10 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat 4. Christiam McCaffery is giving me a headache and he will probably continue to do so for many years to come. He is a great, dynamic player. How many times did I see McCaffery release out of the backfield and there is no one within 15 yards ... If have a spy on anybody on this team McCaffery is the one. Later in the game they did a better job but after way toooo many burns jobs. Agreed however Christian did not get a 100 yards rushing on the Saints D. Only 2.9 ypc ... He simply abused us in the passing game though.

11-24-2019, 04:15 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Agree with most points, particularly the refs... it’s getting more and more obvious. Aside from that, Defense played like trash. You have 1 guy to contain and you let him burn you every play. As someone else said he was wide open by 10yds half the time he caught the ball... poor coaching and bad defense by the secondary. Williams showed today why he isn’t a starting CB. We need Lattimore back against ATL!

11-24-2019, 05:29 PM	#5
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by blackangold Agree with most points, particularly the refs... it’s getting more and more obvious. Aside from that, Defense played like trash. You have 1 guy to contain and you let him burn you every play. As someone else said he was wide open by 10yds half the time he caught the ball... poor coaching and bad defense by the secondary. Williams showed today why he isn’t a starting CB. We need Lattimore back against ATL! I think the defense did an ok job. PJ and play calling we’re just terrible. Those swing passes/sweeps they kept running hurt. It was like no one was covering guys out of the backfield.

11-24-2019, 04:54 PM	#6
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 801	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Game observations from today! Too many penalties, AGAIN!!!! Good win though! WHO DAT!

11-24-2019, 05:07 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers I agree with all the good stuff listed above. And for the left side of the O-line to survive was great. So far, the dumbest play of the entire year was Cam's gut punch. C'mon man. That was a 14 point swing. We had all the momentum, and I have no doubt we go up 21-0, game over. But Noooooooooo, we just had to find a way to **** it up. Even if the officiating wasn't one sided, there were still too many penalties. We have to play with better discipline. We are a great team playing sloppy football. Luckily our B-game will still beat most teams we play. If we play mistake free, no one in the league can beat us. iceshack149, Crusader, jeanpierre and 3 others like this.

11-24-2019, 05:14 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Cam is a terrific player but that punch after the whistle was DUMB. Armstead being carted off is nauseating and why isn't Kamara playing better? Very glad that the Saints won this game because it was a hard game to watch. They need to keep winning to get the home field advantage (even though they haven't been playing well at home.) jeanpierre likes this.

11-24-2019, 07:40 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by Danno I agree with all the good stuff listed above. And for the left side of the O-line to survive was great. So far, the dumbest play of the entire year was Cam's gut punch. C'mon man. That was a 14 point swing. We had all the momentum, and I have no doubt we go up 21-0, game over. But Noooooooooo, we just had to find a way to **** it up. Even if the officiating wasn't one sided, there were still too many penalties. We have to play with better discipline. We are a great team playing sloppy football. Luckily our B-game will still beat most teams we play. If we play mistake free, no one in the league can beat us. Yep, when your best player makes the stupidest play, it's gonna be a long day... I'd also add, while it was obvious to Saints fans what he was trying to do, NFL optics could have had him ejected, and worse! Garry42 likes this.

11-25-2019, 06:32 AM	#10
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yep, when your best player makes the stupidest play, it's gonna be a long day... I'd also add, while it was obvious to Saints fans what he was trying to do, NFL optics could have had him ejected, and worse! I watched the replay a number of times. It could have easily been an ejection call. Even with my Saints bias, it was close and intention could have been seriously questioned. I'm a huge Cam fan, but I can't say it was totally innocent.

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