ProBowl Glover not starting for Cowboys
 

Dallas Cowboys All Pro Bowl defensive lineman La'Roi Glover wants is an opportunity to compete for the starting job with Jason Ferguson, who in the off-season signed a five-year contract that included a $9 million signing bonus. The only problem is that coach Bill Parcells has said he expects Glover to get most of his playing time in the nickel defense and to be a part-time player in the Cowboys' new 3-4 base defense.
-- Dallas Morning News


Time to bring one of the fans' favorite back home. What a waste of talent!

I'd love to have him back......but what would he cost?

I knew Glover was going to get demoted when the cowgirls
went to the 3-4 defense.

Glover is not big enough for the 3-4.

Maybe if we sign Howard to a long-term deal we'll have cap space and we could work out a trade... yeah, I know it's not likely... But just for a moment, allow yourself to imagine the Bucs in 3rd and 7 with Grant, Glover, Howard, and Smith on the line. Oh good Lord.

Personally, I would dump mega cash his way.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Yea it must have been all Glover's fault. Yea our linebacking corps wasn't horrible and our secondary didn't blow either.

Yea it would be pretty stupid throwing money at a 2 or 3 time ProBowler with a lot of gas left in the tank. I like the way you think. :roll:

I swear... do you really watch football? Or do you just drink while you post? Your logic on things seriously baffles me.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Here's our DL for 2000 when Anderson ran over us. Darren Howard, Norman Hand, Glover, and Joe Johnson.... wow! They must have all sucked... what a bunch of garbage names we have here.

Let me see... weren't the Cowboys top 5 in the league prior to last year? Who was anchoring that line and made it to the ProBowl? He play the position of DT which isn't a position where you have glorified stats. Their job is to penetrate into the backfield, which he always does, and disrupt plays. Obviously if he wasn't a stud player, his peers (coaches, players, and fans) wouldn't vote him into the ProBowl. You obviously don't watch enough football and I'm tired of embarrassing you in every single thread you post in. Nevermind I don't even have to say anything... just by posting you look like a fool.

Here... I'll do it for the last time. Go check out Marcus Stroud's, John Henderson's, Sam Adam's, Ted Washington's, Richard Seymour's, Jason Ferguson's, Shaun Rodger's, Corey Simon's, and Kris Jenkins' career statistics. These players are considered the premier players at the defensive tackle position. Now ONE by ONE go look up their career statistics and compare them to Glover's. You can do it career wise or compare them yearly. I think you should just stop posting...

I have better conversations with my two year old niece than I do with you. Heck... if I were to carry on a conversation with a ROCK, it would be more interesting and educated than talking to you. You sir, are a VERY VERY special person.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Do you realize that Glover doesn't fit at a NT in a 3-4 scheme? Do you even realize that the Cowboys switched their defensive scheme? Did you know not only Glover but Greg Ellis isn't starting either? Did you know they signed Jason Ferguson with is the protypical player for the NT position?

Hey son... did you go compare those stats? Did you check it out one by one? I'm pretty sure you didn't that's why you keep on posting. Even if you compare tackles, he holds his own with every player I mentioned on my list and he has more sacks. Do you realize you should just stop posting? I swear... shouldn't it be past your bedtime anyways? Mommy and daddy should definately take that computer away from you. I really don't think you'll be able to deal with all this damage and it might affect you in the future.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

I'll give you some credit... at least you're trying. Usually after I make you look stupid... you just run off and stop posting.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Obviously stats don't speak volumes to you... if it did you'd realize you have no argument.

Hey if you think you "won" ... good for you. You are a waste of time and I rather conversate with someone who can read and process information. I'm pretty sure my dog could process info better than you.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Alright Papz and Black on Black ,

We are coming into the season which means you guys need to consider taking a little edge off the Ball Busting . Just a friendly reminder for now .

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

He's on the bench... is that the ONLY argument you can make? ALL AND I MEAN ALL of the stats disprove everything you say. Why don't you show me an article saying how one dimensional Glover is from Oakland's staff, New Orleans' staff, and the Cowboys staff? If Glover is 1 dimensional... what does that make of every other player I've listed? When the Cowboys LEAD the league in defense in 2003 running a 4-3 defense... I'm pretty sure they weren't saying anything bad about him. He was a stud here in New Orleans and we couldn't afford to keep him because of his asking price. He played 2 games as a rookie in Oakland before going to NFL Europe which helped him become a superstar at his position.

Let's just throw out all his ProBowls and statistics out the window... yea he sucks. You win. Obviously you are the only one who thinks so... did I mention how you make it into the ProBowl. Oh yea, I already did... you just couldn't process it. I'm done with this thread... I don't enjoy talking to people who I have to bring myself down to talk to and yet they still don't understand. Hooked on phonics did not work for you. I'd S U E... (no that's not a name silly boy) F O R Y O U R M O N E Y B A C K. Is it easier for you to read when I T Y P E L I K E T H I S? It should be... you'll be able to sound it O U T B E T T E R and M A Y B E Y O U M I G H T E V E N U N D E R S T A N D S O M E O F I T. Don't try to say it all at one time... it's not one big word.

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

:| I'm done with this thread... sorry shouldn't happen again. I'll just ignore from now on... reading his threads make me feel "not bright" anyways. :)

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

No problem .

The powers that be like a little edge taken off the off season ball bustin during the regular season .

Not to say it does not happen , just a little less harsh .

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Lol what a special guy you are... oh yea did you check out the first 3 or 4 post to this thread? Oh wait, nevermind! LOLOLOL

I'm sorry I just could help myself! :lol:

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

And still your only argument... sad. As he ignores the 5 straight ProBowls, numbers better or as good as all the premier defensive tackles in the league... while he contradicts himself by saying stats speak volumes. Amazing... I am truly stupid for continuing to waste my time.

Re: RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Think hard about that quote and what your response was. You got from me calling myself stupid into that. Amazing... 1+1 = 3. I've hit a new low folks, I'm beyond stupid... I'm hitting retardation. You win hands down... I give up *waves the white flag* I'm sorry for wasting my time talking to you.

RE: Re: RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

Wow...

BonB is your argument against Glover that he is on the bench and therefore is not a good player? Nevermind the fact that the defensive scheme has changed and Glover doesn't work in the scheme...

He has been to 5 consecutive Pro Bowls. More than ANY PLAYER on the Saints' roster. Jim Haslett said a couple of years ago that the single biggest mistake that he regretted most since coming to New Orleans was allowing La'Roi Glover to leave via FA. So what's your next argument as to why Glover isn't maybe the single most talented DT to EVER play in New Orleans? I have a hard time not putting him up there with Wilks, Warren, and Martin... but maybe you feel Sullivan is a better option. LOL

RE: Wanting Glover back?
 

What part of 08's posts are you two having the hardest time deciphering? Knock it off.

Yeah seriously...

I love how guys always have to say "this is beneath me" (while ending it with a subtle, and sometimes not-so-subtle insult). This has the benefit of claiming to want to end the argument, while trying at the same time to keep it going.

You're opinion to a dead thread was greatly appreciated... I'll make sure I write this down in a notebook, tape it on to a computer, and remind myself to care about what you think. Thanks, hopefully this will make me a better person.

Yeah....1 whole day since you and your buddy were bickering like little girls.....I really had to dig in the archives to find that one!

Judging by that comment and yourself being compared to Billy, I'm not going to waste my time continuing with this flame thread. There would be absolutely no point in doing so. I already lost enough brain cells last night. Maybe one day I'll be on your level.

Who would I like to start?!?! Sully or Glover? Sully or Glover? Hmm :P

[quote="BlackonBlack"]Name those 6 players who's been to 5 consecutive ProBowls like Glover please.

[quote="BlackonBlack"]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3507 La'Roi Glovers career stats. Be patient and compare with every link I provide for you.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235242 Richard Seymour's career stats. Be warned, by opening this link as you should have last night, you'd realize Glover has outperformed Seymour.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235246 Marcus Stroud's career stats. Once again... be prepared to be shocked. Wait you shouldn't be if you did the research.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187398 Corey Simon's career stats. Opps I did it again! :mrgreen:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235221 Kris Jenkins career stats. Trust me I can go on and on and on and on and Glover's numbers will still be as good as or better than every DT out there.

Have these statistics earned him a right to be considered a top defensive tackle in this league yet? I mean if he wasn't as good as I'm advertising... wouldn't the coaches, players, and fans not vote him into the ProBowl? Hey you said statistics speaks volume to you... right? Let's not contradict ourselves now.

[quote="BlackonBlack"]Go back to page 2 or 3... one of them. Didn't you say the Saints ran him out of town? But now since WhoDat disproves your comment, you are back tracking? Glover lead Dallas' 2003 defense to #1 in the league... and he's still on the team making ProBowls every year. It doesn't appear to me he's been ran out of town. Do you have any inside info about no one attempting to get him for the past 9-10 months?

[quote="BlackonBlack"]Every stat out there proves that he is more than a mediocre player. Every stat out there disproves your argument. I'm going to trust you opened those links... does Stroud, Simon, Seymour, Jenkins, etc. even have double digit sacks season at all? Does Glover get to the quarterback more than these premier tackles? The obvious answer is yes. Like I've said about a hundred times already... his number are as good as or better than all of these players.

You say if you have a dominant player you shouldn't bench/cut them right... and build around them right? Simeon Rice was an dominant pass rusher yet Arizona let him go. T.O. was a dominant player and he was traded. Larry Allen is a dominant OL and he's been benched numerous times in his career as a Cowboy. Warren Sapp was an intricate part of TB's defense and they chose to go another route. Peter Boulware and Jamie Sharper were dominant players for Baltimore and both cut.

No one has called Bill Parcells stupid beside you telling me I did... weird but ok. Glover doesn't fit into their scheme. What's so hard to understand about that? They needed a big NT and Glover doesn't fit the bill... hence they signed Ferguson. They decided to go in a different direction. Bill Parcells for the past couple of years wanted to let Dat Nguyen go... does that mean he's not good? Of course not... he just has a preference for big linebackers. When Terry Glenn was a superstar in New England, Parcells had no problem letting him walk. Maybe it's not us that needs for all this information to sink into.


WOW I GET A COOKIE! I didn't say one bad word and didn't call him any names!!! WHOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :mrgreen:

Hey you only responded to my last paragraph... how about all the others?! I would love to hear your responses. :wink: I don't think I'll get one though... it's pretty rock solid.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4151 Simeon Rice's career numbers. Yea that looks lackluster to me alright... I guess. (THAT'S SOME SICK NUMBERS I might add. :wink: )

T.O. is such a dominant player, why not dump Jeff Garcia instead and do EVERYTHING in your power to retain your superstar dominant WR and build a new team around him?

Larry Allen had weight issues... really? Yea I kind of knew that already. Blah blah Sapp, Sharper, Boulware... knew all that already.. The point I was making is ANYONE can be replaced no matter how "dominant" you are... including La`Roi Glover.

How is any of the things I've said lies? You haven't disproved a single fact that I've presented to you. Are you in denial? Everything looks pretty straight forward to me.

Take your little jab shots... it really shows your age. I made myself look like a fool by sinking down to that level last night... but what's done is done. I shouldn't let people such as yourself get under my skin... definately not worth it.

Hey buddy, if after everything I've shown you and you still believe Glover is "mediocre" player at best in the NFL, then power to you. I'm pretty sure in some remote Middle Eastern 3rd world country (that's replaying old Raider games when Glover appeared in 2 games as a rookie), someone will agree with you. I'm pretty sure you aren't alone on this.

I don't get it... what did you just prove wrong? I'm completely baffled.

Dent your facts? What facts? Trust it's not because it was needless for you to respond, you just can't respond to that. Re-read... that's a great idea. Please print out this conversation and let your parents read it. Wow.

Is anyone reading this stuff? Wow. Man... man... wow. My head feels so empty and light right now... I have nothing else to say. Goodnight... I feel so... dizzy reading these post of yours. Amazing... is this real? Am I dreaming that someone could be so... wow. You are WOW. You have completely stomped me... and I completely surrender to you.

You wanted me to call you uncle right? UNCLE BLACKONBLACK you truly amaze me. I give up.

UNCLE! UNCLE! UNCLE! Please you are killing me here. I surrendered already! Stop the torture... if I get anymore light headed I'll faint. If by me calling you UNCLE will stop the hurt, I'll call you UNCLE every single time. Spare me please. UNCLE please stop!!!

Oh yea UNCLE, what's a little gender sibling that you called me anyways? Little sex brother? Nevermind don't answer... I'm pretty sure I'll faint for real. Goodnight UNCLE... I'll make sure I show my friends and co-workers this thread tomorrow to show them how bad you've demolished me. Bye bye off to the bowling alley!