Last in the South

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 12:50 PM

it just saddens me to see you giving up on the season already....
no one ever won a championship on paper

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 01:12 PM

I am NOT giving up. I\'m conditioning myself. Expect the worst, hope for the best. I want to see this team win the Super Bowl next year. Realistically, 10-6 or 11-5 and a wild card seems reasonable. However, 8-8 or even 7-9 in our division with the off-season moves we\'ve made does not seem insane to me. That\'s all I\'m saying.

I guarantee you this. When the season starts, I\'ll scream just as loud, I\'ll hope against all odds like I do every year, and I\'ll pull for this team with everything I\'ve got. Deal?

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 01:21 PM

ohhhh i c, its just all this negativity is bringing me down...lol yea right, i always have great expectations for the saints, but i said 11-5 last year, and we had a shot to be there and make a splash in the playoffs, and im sayin 11-5 this year

here is my offseason prediction for the nfc south

1. saints 11-5
2. falcons 10-6
3. bucs 8-8
4. panthers 6-10

i know ur bout to trash me for sayin bucs 8-8 but they are wildly over rated and there hard schedlue will show it next year

rodjmaw · 03-17-2003, 01:59 PM

I agree with you ...Pak. The Bucs are overrated & I want be surprised if they become last in our conference. Saints should watch out for the panthers cuz of Davis

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 02:55 PM

You\'re CRAZY!!!

Here you go:

1. The F$&%ing Falcons 11-5
2. Bucs 10-6
3. Saints 9-7
4. Panthers 9-7

We win the tie-breaker against Carolina by division record since we split with them.

The Falcons and Eagles get byes. We travel to Green Bay as the 2nd wild card and have to play in 2 degree weather while the Bucs get to stay at home and beat the crap out of the 49ers. Then the Bucs go to Philly while Green Bay travels to Hotlanta. Philly gets their revenge on the Bucs and Hotlanta beats up on Green Bay on a day when Favre has another 3 INT game. Hotlanta/Philly is too tough to call. I lean towards Philly.

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 03:00 PM

i knew u would say that...

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 03:44 PM

the reason i think we will be better or just as good as the year before is b/c even tho we havent made that many \"upgrades\" we also havent had any \"downgrades\" except for maybe the loss of sammy, i think our team will be the class of the NFC, not only the NFC south

saintfan · 03-17-2003, 05:12 PM

We can score people. We can score on ANYbody. The problem last year was ANYbody could score on us. If you follow the KISS rule and reduce it to just that, then you simply MUST be positive about the Saints prospects for next season. Sammy was a ball hawk and he\'ll be missed and Jake Delhomme, our security blanket, will be too, but as a whole we\'ve upgraded this offseason and we still have the draft.

If our offense scores this coming season like it did last year, and if what why tried to call a defense last year actually becomes one, and I think it will, then we\'ve got as good a shot at it as anybody.

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 05:29 PM

Hey man - I love that we haven\'t lost anyone we can\'t live without (except maybe Sammy - only time will tell on that one). However, neither have our division rivals. The Bucs lost Quarles and Dexter Jackson. Jackson is average, playing in a great system, with incredible players around him. Whoever takes his place won\'t be any worse. Quarles was a loss, but not a huge one. I can\'t remember who they have been grooming behind Quarles but the Tampa staff is pretty upbeat on whoever it is, if I remember correctly.

Atlanta and Carolina have basically lost no one. So in a division that is already good that is experiencing little turnover, it\'s not who you\'re keeping (b/c everyone is keeping their important players), it\'s who you\'re adding.

That\'s just my opinion.

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 05:47 PM

C\'mon - no I\'m not. So far this off-season has been OK. I would like to see them give Horn an offer. I don\'t understand why they haven\'t made a move for Woodson, or at least leaked information to the press as to why they haven\'t. The Tebuckey Jones talk is great. He would help our defense out a lot in the talent category. I\'m not so sure that he is much better than Knight, but he\'s better than what we\'ve got now.

I am disappointed that they didn\'t take a shot at a big-name MLB, but so what. They could be managing the cap a little better (Hand, Williams), but maybe they have something on the burner with those two. Right now I\'m in a wait-and-see kind of mode. I think that they better add some impact players though. Whether it\'s through the draft or FA, they need some defensive players who can change a game with their play. Otherwise, I don\'t see our defense getting much better. If our defense doesn\'t get better, I don\'t know how much better this team gets.

Aaron and Deuce staying healthy all season probably would have made the difference last year. If they can do it this year they should make the playoffs. Still, to be a legitimate Super Bowl contender, something needs to happen with this defense. We\'ve got a shot... I\'m just interested to see what happens next.

03-17-2003, 12:50 PM	#11
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Last in the South it just saddens me to see you giving up on the season already.... no one ever won a championship on paper

03-17-2003, 01:12 PM	#12
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Last in the South I am NOT giving up. I\'m conditioning myself. Expect the worst, hope for the best. I want to see this team win the Super Bowl next year. Realistically, 10-6 or 11-5 and a wild card seems reasonable. However, 8-8 or even 7-9 in our division with the off-season moves we\'ve made does not seem insane to me. That\'s all I\'m saying. I guarantee you this. When the season starts, I\'ll scream just as loud, I\'ll hope against all odds like I do every year, and I\'ll pull for this team with everything I\'ve got. Deal?
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

03-17-2003, 01:21 PM	#13
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Last in the South ohhhh i c, its just all this negativity is bringing me down...lol yea right, i always have great expectations for the saints, but i said 11-5 last year, and we had a shot to be there and make a splash in the playoffs, and im sayin 11-5 this year here is my offseason prediction for the nfc south 1. saints 11-5 2. falcons 10-6 3. bucs 8-8 4. panthers 6-10 i know ur bout to trash me for sayin bucs 8-8 but they are wildly over rated and there hard schedlue will show it next year
	I Live In Beastmode!

03-17-2003, 01:59 PM	#14
rodjmaw 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 138	Last in the South I agree with you ...Pak. The Bucs are overrated & I want be surprised if they become last in our conference. Saints should watch out for the panthers cuz of Davis
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03-17-2003, 02:55 PM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Last in the South You\'re CRAZY!!! Here you go: 1. The F$&%ing Falcons 11-5 2. Bucs 10-6 3. Saints 9-7 4. Panthers 9-7 We win the tie-breaker against Carolina by division record since we split with them. The Falcons and Eagles get byes. We travel to Green Bay as the 2nd wild card and have to play in 2 degree weather while the Bucs get to stay at home and beat the crap out of the 49ers. Then the Bucs go to Philly while Green Bay travels to Hotlanta. Philly gets their revenge on the Bucs and Hotlanta beats up on Green Bay on a day when Favre has another 3 INT game. Hotlanta/Philly is too tough to call. I lean towards Philly.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

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03-17-2003, 03:00 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Last in the South i knew u would say that...

03-17-2003, 03:44 PM	#17
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Last in the South the reason i think we will be better or just as good as the year before is b/c even tho we havent made that many \"upgrades\" we also havent had any \"downgrades\" except for maybe the loss of sammy, i think our team will be the class of the NFC, not only the NFC south

03-17-2003, 05:12 PM	#18
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Last in the South We can score people. We can score on ANYbody. The problem last year was ANYbody could score on us. If you follow the KISS rule and reduce it to just that, then you simply MUST be positive about the Saints prospects for next season. Sammy was a ball hawk and he\'ll be missed and Jake Delhomme, our security blanket, will be too, but as a whole we\'ve upgraded this offseason and we still have the draft. If our offense scores this coming season like it did last year, and if what why tried to call a defense last year actually becomes one, and I think it will, then we\'ve got as good a shot at it as anybody.
	C'mon Man...

03-17-2003, 05:29 PM	#19
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Last in the South Hey man - I love that we haven\'t lost anyone we can\'t live without (except maybe Sammy - only time will tell on that one). However, neither have our division rivals. The Bucs lost Quarles and Dexter Jackson. Jackson is average, playing in a great system, with incredible players around him. Whoever takes his place won\'t be any worse. Quarles was a loss, but not a huge one. I can\'t remember who they have been grooming behind Quarles but the Tampa staff is pretty upbeat on whoever it is, if I remember correctly. Atlanta and Carolina have basically lost no one. So in a division that is already good that is experiencing little turnover, it\'s not who you\'re keeping (b/c everyone is keeping their important players), it\'s who you\'re adding. That\'s just my opinion.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

03-17-2003, 05:47 PM	#20
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Last in the South C\'mon - no I\'m not. So far this off-season has been OK. I would like to see them give Horn an offer. I don\'t understand why they haven\'t made a move for Woodson, or at least leaked information to the press as to why they haven\'t. The Tebuckey Jones talk is great. He would help our defense out a lot in the talent category. I\'m not so sure that he is much better than Knight, but he\'s better than what we\'ve got now. I am disappointed that they didn\'t take a shot at a big-name MLB, but so what. They could be managing the cap a little better (Hand, Williams), but maybe they have something on the burner with those two. Right now I\'m in a wait-and-see kind of mode. I think that they better add some impact players though. Whether it\'s through the draft or FA, they need some defensive players who can change a game with their play. Otherwise, I don\'t see our defense getting much better. If our defense doesn\'t get better, I don\'t know how much better this team gets. Aaron and Deuce staying healthy all season probably would have made the difference last year. If they can do it this year they should make the playoffs. Still, to be a legitimate Super Bowl contender, something needs to happen with this defense. We\'ve got a shot... I\'m just interested to see what happens next.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"