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I think Sean went after Teddy so anxiously precisely because Teddy plays smart and is precise. Brees-like, although we'd agree he's no Brees. Cam is not a 'smart' QB, which is not an indictment on the man's intelligence but how he plays the game. With Sean's offense being one of precision, Cam is clearly not the man for the job here.

Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

5 pages of comments off the ramblings of an ESPN writer?

Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

Sean Payton was ready to select Pat Mahommes up until KC stepped in.

Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

Smashmouth and I had a gay QB for years in a touch football league.
It should be noted that Smashmouth was the only guy to bend over in the huddle. :hallucinate:

Cam doesn't seem to be able to control his gayness/emotions like so many great NFL QBs in history. :rolleyes:
Still, he is a great athlete and would no doubt be great on a camping trip. :o

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When will ya'll stop ripping camping trips? I'm going next weekend. By the way when is the bng camping trip?:bng:

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Do you think he would want Matthew Stafford, Kirk Cousins, or Jimmy Garoppolo?

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Sorry... I won't be able to make it again this year, so ask Smashmouth.

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He is past his prime, why would we?

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Nope

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No but if i recall... he had affection for Romo didn't he?

There is no accounting for taste.

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Personally, I never saw Romo as the problem in Dallas.

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Yep

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I believe if he had Romo then Romo would have a ring. I feel the same way about Stafford. Cousins? Maybe not. Garoppolo? Not sure. But I believe Sean Payton would get the most out of Cam Newton. He’s a Heisman winning, Rookie of the Year awarded, former league MVP who’s been to a Super Bowl and has had a successful career with a defensive minded coach.

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I couldn’t care less how he dresses or why I just hate his whining and tantrums. He’s a little ***** who didn’t get enough positive attention from daddy. His attitude sucks and he’s just not all that great. We have just as good here between TB and Taysom without the baggage. Either one is a perfect fit for the way the NFL is headed. I would rather tank for picks than bring him in.

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What’s that?

Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

You are not the only one to wonder.

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It's a jab at you because you like black QB's. :roll: Nothing to see here. Move along. And get a life guys..... I may not agree but I do respect the mans opinion.

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No way in hell I pick him over Brees but when he is healthy he is a good player. Its just hard because of where he is at and im so used to hating him.

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I’ll leave it alone because you’re respectful.

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Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

Not me... You mean Smashmouth. ;)

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Me either, like Rivers he was grossly underrated.

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The list of what is not the problem in Dallas is much longer than the list of what is that just has Jerry's name on it. Romo was never the problem in Dallas, hes now a ****ing problem on my TV... his voice is like a herd of cats on a chalk board and he doesn't know that TV is not radio and shutting his cock holster once in a while would be appreciated. :bng:

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Totally agree on the skill sets and its not his talent that holds Cam back. Cam is a slave to his emotions and while there are times that being that works to his advantage Sean Payton is a lot like Yoda and isnt willing to work with just anyone.

Sean has a type and its not Cam Newton.. None of these guys are self serving show boats that want spotlight.
Drew Brees
Teddy Bridgewater
Taysom Hill
Luke McCown
Marc Brunell

Sean is the same way with receivers.. Jimmy was a spectacle after a TD with the dunk but put a mic in front of him and he is subdued and articulate. Colston, Thomas, Kamara, Ingram... none are flamboyant publicly.

Here is one I heard come out of Cam's mouth: "You look good, you play good; you play good, they pay good" I've so much to say about that statement lol

You may not realize it but Cam is often injured... Since 2016 he has only had one 16 game season. I will give him this though, when he is healthy the Panthers record is a whole lot better than if he doesn't start 16...

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Never once have I seen Drew laugh, sulk, cover his head in a towel after he made a turnover. It is not always about physical talent, but leadership is a huge part. None of our QB's dress like the Mad Hatter for a presser, especially not after a loss.

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I think Romo's THE best analyst on TV. I get the voice thing, but his commentary is right on, and 9 out of 10 times he predicts the play before they even run it. He's a pretty smart guy.




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Honestly, I feel like Thomas, Kamara, and Ingram are similar to Cam Newton personality wise. Sean Payton just has great control of his locker room. This is more about my trust in Sean Payton than it is my belief in the attitude of Cam Newton. I think your point is the most valid in regards to injury concerns. I think the media has made a bigger deal about his “leadership” than it really is. I’ve never really heard teammates or ex-teammates speak bad of Newton, and when they went to the Super Bowl it was because he led them there. He’s a proven winner at every level.

Cam Newton has said some things that have made me lose respect for him as a person. However, I can’t act like I wouldn’t be willing to take a chance on him as a football player, especially if Teddy decides he wants to be somewhere else. I believe the future is now and quarterbacks who can move are the pathway.

Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
Deshaun Watson
Patrick Mahomes
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott

That added threat is the wave. It’s the real reason Joe Burrow is thriving at LSU in my opinion and why he will do the same at the next level. The kid can do both.

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What else does most of those QB's have in common? Injuries. I expect that all of these QB's will have much shorter careers than the more conventional QB types.

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The only ones that are really injury prone are Wentz and Watson. The Brees, Brady’s, and Manning’s who play until they’re 40 aren’t the norm anyway. I’ll take a good 5-8 years of high level play. That’s one big contract and you move on.

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The only reason guys playing that long aren't "the norm" is because elite QB's aren't the norm. Guys just aren't usually good enough to be in the league that long. But look at all of those who ARE (or were, for those who are retired) elite pocket passers. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Rivers, Manning, Favre, Marino, Elway, Montana.

Those guys all played, or have been playing for a long time. The idea that you're going to go all in with a running QB for 5-8 year and move on is kind of insane. As hard as it is to find a good QB, why would you think you can find another every 5-8 years? It's better to just invest in your defense and sign game managers like Alex Smith, than to think you can bring in a franchise QB that often.

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If he were in his prime, I'd take him in a heartbeat. But he's not in his prime anymore. I wouldn't risk a huge multi year contract on his health.

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Pass on Scam.


That is all...

Re: ESPN senior writer says Saints are a 'wild card' if Cam Newton tests free agency
 

Or his head.....:broccoli:

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Sean does keep a lid on things quite well, but he also tends to stay away from anyone over an 8 personality wise lol.

There is a lot of focus on respect these days in social media, I've stepped off a plane locked and loaded with people that I didn't respect and it had no effect on my performance what so ever. I would be a hypocrite to require respect to want someone on a football team. I have to know someone to develop a respect for them and I can honestly say that I have zero respect for Drew Brees, I dont know him as a person. I admire his leadership and skills on the field, I also think his philanthropy is very notable and shows high character.

That said If I had a dollar for every asinine statement that I have made throughout my life Id be waiting for a new Fodera (bass guitar) to arrive in the next day or two lol. <--- And thats without a few million in my bank, a camera in my face, and a persona to maintain.

When Drew went down earlier I would have much rather had Cam Newton the healthy football player on the field than anyone we had on the team... He hasn't been healthy and Cam Newton the football player doesn't come without Cam Newton the peacock. Just color me conflicted. :bng:

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No.
Bree’s will end his career here as he has personal goals of records and things.
I only wish is for him not to stay pass his expiration date.

Saints have Bridgewater as 2nd qb who stepped up in five straight games and brought the team five Ws. He did what he was paid to do. He got the confidence of the team.

3rd about is “Jack “ Hill who does this and that and is a Jack of all trades.
I don’t think he has done placekicking yet, but hey, there is still time, lol.

CamNewton is used to be a starter and won’t go anywhere as 2nd.
This alone cancels him out here. You only have a record breaking, SB winning, and more 1 st qb
You have a proven , quiet too , 2nd qb.

Also, by the time Brees retires, Bridgewater and Hill won’t be here and Newton will be gone from NFL.

Pardon me for repeating myself here.
Different thread, but same subject.

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No.
No to them too.

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Bridgewater is 2nd qb. He only stepped and did his job and got the team behind him and made five straight Ws. Then you have Hill, Jack of all Trades.