Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 871404)

No. We still are.:bng:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 871406)

This game, like so many before it, was rigged by the league. I don't understand how people don't see it.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 871409)

To a point I agree
Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 871399)

It's a shame that Dean Blandino, former head of officiating, doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck.

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 871411)

There was nothing sloppy about Johnson's tackle. That was the league giving the Niners a first down, and had it not been on him it would have been on someone else for some other bull**** call. It's not even debatable. The league does all it can to controll the outcome. Nothing could be more obvious.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 871405)

You're exactly right, Lee. I see certain comments of people admonishing the mere thought that anyone might have of giving the offense some blame, but the play caller on that side of the ball (Payton) was ignoring Murray's success in favor of feeding the "star" in vain.

I was telling my dad a few days ago that the Saints needed to run right up the middle against them, because they are an undersized front who relies on speed and quickness to get to the QB. And right away, Murray had some good runs up the middle, but Payton couldn't stand prosperity, and he had to pitch it WIDE, working right into the 71ers strength of getting off the edge. That killed several drives.

So while the defense obviously deserves the most blame, along with more awful officiating, Payton's ego of trying to trick people for no reason got in the way of what was an otherwise great day for the offense.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 871415)

Two words....Zach Line!

Murray needs a blocker to really get going.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 871409)

To a point I agree
Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 871415)

Two words....Zach Line!

Murray needs a blocker to really get going.