Patriots style football

Vrillon82 · 12-20-2019, 03:57 AM

What Sean Payton is doing this season, far different than previous years.

instead of peaking early in the season, most our games this year has been a struggle especially on offense, last 2 games Brees has tossed 8 TDs is it? Bridgewater needed 5 games to do that.

This is the same things Brady and Belichick do often, look bad for stretches and then come out firing end of the season and in playoffs.

This could be our year to get over the hump. But I believe it will involve avoiding a team like Seattle some Jan.

Crusader · 12-20-2019, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

instead of peaking early in the season, most our games this year has been a struggle especially on offense, last 2 games Brees has tossed 8 TDs is it? Bridgewater needed 5 games to do that.

Actually its nine

Beastmode · 12-20-2019, 09:35 AM

Only difference is MT. Pats seldom relied on one WR back in the day. For us, everything flows through MT.

jeanpierre · 12-20-2019, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Only difference is MT. Pats seldom relied on one WR back in the day. For us, everything flows through MT.

Rob Gronkowski? Edelman has struggled to be a consistent producer without him?

The Big Difference is that Belichick knew how to game-plan and shut folks down with his defense, slow the game down, bang the rock, and let the performance anxiety of the playoffs work to his favor...

Payton, not so much...

Rugby Saint II · 12-20-2019, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rob Gronkowski? Edelman has struggled to be a consistent producer without him?

The Big Difference is that Belichick knew how to game-plan and shut folks down with his defense, slow the game down, bang the rock, and let the performance anxiety of the playoffs work to his favor...

Payton, not so much...

Payton thinks he understands defenses because he can pick them apart but he doesn't have a clue when it comes down to making a game plan for the defense. When he stopped tinkering with the defenses we were able to field better defenses.

Still, I don't put this on Payton. I put this on DA who I'm less happy with almost every game this year. There have been too many close games in garbage time. He just can't control the lead and takes his foot off the throttle. That's just too hard on my liver.

jeanpierre · 12-20-2019, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Payton thinks he understands defenses because he can pick them apart but he doesn't have a clue when it comes down to making a game plan for the defense. When he stopped tinkering with the defenses we were able to field better defenses.

Still, I don't put this on Payton. I put this on DA who I'm less happy with almost every game this year. There have been too many close games in garbage time. He just can't control the lead and takes his foot off the throttle. That's just too hard on my liver.

I'm not Team DA by any means, but in his defense I'll say, no, his strength is not in game planning but in tweaking, making adjustments to shut down teams second half...

That said, we haven't seen that strength on display in the three losses this year nor the playoff losses...

Beastmode · 12-20-2019, 09:59 AM

Rob only had two seasons where he got over 80 catches. A couple seasons where they leaned on him hard which is what we are doing with MT but even more so. He's about to have the reception record. If we start spreading the ball out more here on out then yeah, it would look like a vintage Pats team.

Vrillon82 · 12-20-2019, 01:25 PM

Some of the things I been unhappy with as far as DA goes is like in the ATL game, why was he matching Apple on Ridley who was their best WR with Julio out? This is going back to the old days where #1 Corner stay on one side of the field and line up with whoever and same for the #2.

dizzle88 · 12-21-2019, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Some of the things I been unhappy with as far as DA goes is like in the ATL game, why was he matching Apple on Ridley who was their best WR with Julio out? This is going back to the old days where #1 Corner stay on one side of the field and line up with whoever and same for the #2.

Just like the 9ers game too, their best receiver was Emmanual Sanders and they still had Apple lined up on him instead of using Lattimore. In the first half, Sanders had 140 yards and 2 TD's.

K Major · 12-21-2019, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Just like the 9ers game too, their best receiver was Emmanual Sanders and they still had Apple lined up on him instead of using Lattimore. In the first half, Sanders had 140 yards and 2 TD's.

We have Jack Rabbit on the roster now ...

Dennis now has options at slot/boundary going forward.

12-20-2019, 03:57 AM	#1
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Patriots style football What Sean Payton is doing this season, far different than previous years. instead of peaking early in the season, most our games this year has been a struggle especially on offense, last 2 games Brees has tossed 8 TDs is it? Bridgewater needed 5 games to do that. This is the same things Brady and Belichick do often, look bad for stretches and then come out firing end of the season and in playoffs. This could be our year to get over the hump. But I believe it will involve avoiding a team like Seattle some Jan. SmashMouth likes this.
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12-20-2019, 09:35 AM	#3
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Patriots style football Only difference is MT. Pats seldom relied on one WR back in the day. For us, everything flows through MT.
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12-20-2019, 09:42 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by Beastmode Only difference is MT. Pats seldom relied on one WR back in the day. For us, everything flows through MT. Rob Gronkowski? Edelman has struggled to be a consistent producer without him? The Big Difference is that Belichick knew how to game-plan and shut folks down with his defense, slow the game down, bang the rock, and let the performance anxiety of the playoffs work to his favor... Payton, not so much... K Major likes this.

12-20-2019, 12:41 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rob Gronkowski? Edelman has struggled to be a consistent producer without him? The Big Difference is that Belichick knew how to game-plan and shut folks down with his defense, slow the game down, bang the rock, and let the performance anxiety of the playoffs work to his favor... Payton, not so much... Payton thinks he understands defenses because he can pick them apart but he doesn't have a clue when it comes down to making a game plan for the defense. When he stopped tinkering with the defenses we were able to field better defenses. Still, I don't put this on Payton. I put this on DA who I'm less happy with almost every game this year. There have been too many close games in garbage time. He just can't control the lead and takes his foot off the throttle. That's just too hard on my liver.
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12-20-2019, 05:36 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Payton thinks he understands defenses because he can pick them apart but he doesn't have a clue when it comes down to making a game plan for the defense. When he stopped tinkering with the defenses we were able to field better defenses. Still, I don't put this on Payton. I put this on DA who I'm less happy with almost every game this year. There have been too many close games in garbage time. He just can't control the lead and takes his foot off the throttle. That's just too hard on my liver. I'm not Team DA by any means, but in his defense I'll say, no, his strength is not in game planning but in tweaking, making adjustments to shut down teams second half... That said, we haven't seen that strength on display in the three losses this year nor the playoff losses...

12-20-2019, 04:10 AM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by Vrillon82 instead of peaking early in the season, most our games this year has been a struggle especially on offense, last 2 games Brees has tossed 8 TDs is it? Bridgewater needed 5 games to do that. Actually its nine SmashMouth and st thomas like this.

12-20-2019, 09:59 AM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Patriots style football Rob only had two seasons where he got over 80 catches. A couple seasons where they leaned on him hard which is what we are doing with MT but even more so. He's about to have the reception record. If we start spreading the ball out more here on out then yeah, it would look like a vintage Pats team.
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12-20-2019, 01:25 PM	#8
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Patriots style football Some of the things I been unhappy with as far as DA goes is like in the ATL game, why was he matching Apple on Ridley who was their best WR with Julio out? This is going back to the old days where #1 Corner stay on one side of the field and line up with whoever and same for the #2.
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12-21-2019, 07:51 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Some of the things I been unhappy with as far as DA goes is like in the ATL game, why was he matching Apple on Ridley who was their best WR with Julio out? This is going back to the old days where #1 Corner stay on one side of the field and line up with whoever and same for the #2. Just like the 9ers game too, their best receiver was Emmanual Sanders and they still had Apple lined up on him instead of using Lattimore. In the first half, Sanders had 140 yards and 2 TD's.

12-21-2019, 08:09 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Patriots style football Originally Posted by dizzle88 Just like the 9ers game too, their best receiver was Emmanual Sanders and they still had Apple lined up on him instead of using Lattimore. In the first half, Sanders had 140 yards and 2 TD's. We have Jack Rabbit on the roster now ... Dennis now has options at slot/boundary going forward.

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