Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life

ScottyRo · 08-03-2005, 10:57 PM

METARIE, La. -- As New Orleans Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks sat on a bench discussing a variety of subjects, the topic turned to the simplification of the team's offense, something coach Jim Haslett said was badly needed.

"See this right here," Brooks said, pointing to a yellow placard taped to his left wrist. "It's huge."

The card was filled with numbers, followed by the corresponding offensive plays. It's nothing new by NFL standards, but it's certainly new and needed for the Saints, an offense that resembled a stumbling high-school unit at times last season.

They've had trouble getting into an offensive rhythm in large part because their system has had way too much verbiage. Under former offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy, who left for San Francisco, the Saints struggled to call in plays and get the ball snapped.

New Orleans led the league in penalty yards last season, much of that a result of terminology problems that led to pre-snap infractions, Haslett said.

Continued... http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8701894

saintz08 · 08-04-2005, 12:23 AM

Fans have been trying to replace Brooks for the past four years. Yet here he is back again for another year as the team's starter.

"They'll miss me when I'm gone," Brooks said.

Did he stick his tongue out too ????

Asked if he felt he had a bull's-eye on his chest, Brooks laughed.

"Around here, always," he said. "I've come to understand it. So what if they don't like me? If they haven't accepted me by now, I can never expect them to accept me. And those writers and people who doubt me, what can I do?

Prove them wrong , ever cross his mind ?? Or do we need to simplify that ???

WhoDat · 08-04-2005, 10:14 AM

Ask for another top 5 contract maybe. That might help huh Aaron? LOL Dude is retarded.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-04-2005, 12:21 PM

I read the article. The title implies that the offense has been simplified. But I haven't seen anything that indicates that there has been a reduction in either
the number or the complexity of the plays. Only that an indexing system has been put in place.

Is there any evidence that the offense has actually been simplified?

Just curious.

A second thought: If the Saints offense truly commits to running the football, defenses are going to be in big trouble. A commitment to the run is actually going to open up the passing game. Drawing 8 into the box on a consistent basis is going to open things up to man coverage and for the tight ends.

SFIAH
SFIAH

Tobias-Reiper · 08-04-2005, 01:05 PM

... this is one of the big issues I have with the coaching staff...

STOP TRYING TO MAKE BROOKS INTO FAVRE... McCarthy is gone. Let's find another angle, can't we????

Forget about the flourishment of Aaron Brooks and concentrate in the flourishment of the New Orleans Saints...

... stop than picking sides and creating friction among the players by sending some players to leadership classes, producing video montages to prove that "it's not this player's fault", and publicly reamming a guy who went in defense of a teammate...

.. make players understand that each of them is a piece of the puzzle, yet no one is indispensable...

.... but who am I kidding...

Euphoria · 08-04-2005, 01:18 PM

They aren't "simplyfying the O", its merely simplyfying the terminology. Its not to help Brooks out but to help the team! Get the play on the field quicker... (less delay of game penalties). Get the offense to the line quicker (read the defense better and more time to make adjustments). I do see more fullback useage and more play action but that is it.

ScottyRo · 08-04-2005, 01:57 PM

They have stated that they are also reducing the number of reads he has to make. That's part of simplification. Instead of 4 reads now he does 2 and then looks for an outlet.

yasoon · 08-04-2005, 02:36 PM

I've said it 10 times....I think Brooks is a good, likeable dude.

But....I've never heard him say that he has to get better, that he has to step up his game and lift this team up a notch. His tone is always that of embattled, unfairly blamed victim. To be fair, there is plenty of blame to go around for the mediocrity in recent years. The guy is a well paid starting QB in the NFL. The fans WANT to love him. He just seems to always act like there is no reason for the fans to be frustrated with his play.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable, but I would love to hear him say "Our fans have been through alot and they know we are a team that has underachieved. I am a high profile member of an underachieving team and I need to step my game up to get us where we need to go, which is the playoffs and the SuperBowl. The fans of NO deserve a winner and it is my job to help them get one"

That's all I want. I was on the fence with him till last year when he really looked bad in several games. The amazing thing is in a game like @Tampa where he looked absolutely terrible until there were less than 5 minutes in the game. Then, he throws a few good passes and two fantastic TD passes. You're overjoyed as a fan...then you ask yourself how in the hell the guy who ran backwards and threw the ball to no one for almost 4 qrtrs did that. He really is the most confusing athlete I've ever rooted for.

saintfan · 08-04-2005, 02:53 PM

They have stated that they are also reducing the number of reads he has to make. That's part of simplification. Instead of 4 reads now he does 2 and then looks for an outlet.

This is accurate. Same format they used for Young in SF as I recall. I really liked this article, but then what fun is it without blanket statements and conspiracy theories?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-04-2005, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

They aren't "simplyfying the O", its merely simplyfying the terminology.

After I asked the question I found an article that indicates that the playbook has been streamlined.

Here is the quote:

Haslett's plans call for the offense to be simplified. The playbook has been cut nearly in half and the vocabulary has been stripped down to basics for everyone's benefit.

It came from an article in the Shreveport Times:

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...507290331/1001

Its not to help Brooks out but to help the team! Get the play on the field quicker... (less delay of game penalties). Get the offense to the line quicker (read the defense better and more time to make adjustments). I do see more fullback useage and more play action but that is it.

The article points to an actual simplification. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Offensive complexity is designed to lead the defense into a direction ot tendency and then play counter to that tendency. Simplification may eliminate some of that misdirection.

SFIAH

08-03-2005, 10:57 PM	#1
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life METARIE, La. -- As New Orleans Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks sat on a bench discussing a variety of subjects, the topic turned to the simplification of the team's offense, something coach Jim Haslett said was badly needed. "See this right here," Brooks said, pointing to a yellow placard taped to his left wrist. "It's huge." The card was filled with numbers, followed by the corresponding offensive plays. It's nothing new by NFL standards, but it's certainly new and needed for the Saints, an offense that resembled a stumbling high-school unit at times last season. They've had trouble getting into an offensive rhythm in large part because their system has had way too much verbiage. Under former offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy, who left for San Francisco, the Saints struggled to call in plays and get the ball snapped. New Orleans led the league in penalty yards last season, much of that a result of terminology problems that led to pre-snap infractions, Haslett said. Continued... http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8701894

08-04-2005, 12:23 AM	#2
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life Fans have been trying to replace Brooks for the past four years. Yet here he is back again for another year as the team's starter. "They'll miss me when I'm gone," Brooks said. Did he stick his tongue out too ???? Asked if he felt he had a bull's-eye on his chest, Brooks laughed. "Around here, always," he said. "I've come to understand it. So what if they don't like me? If they haven't accepted me by now, I can never expect them to accept me. And those writers and people who doubt me, what can I do? Prove them wrong , ever cross his mind ?? Or do we need to simplify that ???
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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life I read the article. The title implies that the offense has been simplified. But I haven't seen anything that indicates that there has been a reduction in either the number or the complexity of the plays. Only that an indexing system has been put in place. Is there any evidence that the offense has actually been simplified? Just curious. A second thought: If the Saints offense truly commits to running the football, defenses are going to be in big trouble. A commitment to the run is actually going to open up the passing game. Drawing 8 into the box on a consistent basis is going to open things up to man coverage and for the tight ends. SFIAH SFIAH
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life ... this is one of the big issues I have with the coaching staff... STOP TRYING TO MAKE BROOKS INTO FAVRE... McCarthy is gone. Let's find another angle, can't we???? Forget about the flourishment of Aaron Brooks and concentrate in the flourishment of the New Orleans Saints... ... stop than picking sides and creating friction among the players by sending some players to leadership classes, producing video montages to prove that "it's not this player's fault", and publicly reamming a guy who went in defense of a teammate... .. make players understand that each of them is a piece of the puzzle, yet no one is indispensable... .... but who am I kidding...

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life They aren't "simplyfying the O", its merely simplyfying the terminology. Its not to help Brooks out but to help the team! Get the play on the field quicker... (less delay of game penalties). Get the offense to the line quicker (read the defense better and more time to make adjustments). I do see more fullback useage and more play action but that is it.

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ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life They have stated that they are also reducing the number of reads he has to make. That's part of simplification. Instead of 4 reads now he does 2 and then looks for an outlet.

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yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	I've said it 10 times....I think Brooks is a good, likeable dude. But....I've never heard him say that he has to get better, that he has to step up his game and lift this team up a notch. His tone is always that of embattled, unfairly blamed victim. To be fair, there is plenty of blame to go around for the mediocrity in recent years. The guy is a well paid starting QB in the NFL. The fans WANT to love him. He just seems to always act like there is no reason for the fans to be frustrated with his play. Maybe I'm being unreasonable, but I would love to hear him say "Our fans have been through alot and they know we are a team that has underachieved. I am a high profile member of an underachieving team and I need to step my game up to get us where we need to go, which is the playoffs and the SuperBowl. The fans of NO deserve a winner and it is my job to help them get one" That's all I want. I was on the fence with him till last year when he really looked bad in several games. The amazing thing is in a game like @Tampa where he looked absolutely terrible until there were less than 5 minutes in the game. Then, he throws a few good passes and two fantastic TD passes. You're overjoyed as a fan...then you ask yourself how in the hell the guy who ran backwards and threw the ball to no one for almost 4 qrtrs did that. He really is the most confusing athlete I've ever rooted for.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	They have stated that they are also reducing the number of reads he has to make. That's part of simplification. Instead of 4 reads now he does 2 and then looks for an outlet. This is accurate. Same format they used for Young in SF as I recall. I really liked this article, but then what fun is it without blanket statements and conspiracy theories?

08-04-2005, 03:09 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: RE: Saints hope Brooks will flourish in the simple life Originally Posted by Euphoria They aren't "simplyfying the O", its merely simplyfying the terminology. After I asked the question I found an article that indicates that the playbook has been streamlined. Here is the quote: Haslett's plans call for the offense to be simplified. The playbook has been cut nearly in half and the vocabulary has been stripped down to basics for everyone's benefit. It came from an article in the Shreveport Times: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/...507290331/1001 Its not to help Brooks out but to help the team! Get the play on the field quicker... (less delay of game penalties). Get the offense to the line quicker (read the defense better and more time to make adjustments). I do see more fullback useage and more play action but that is it. The article points to an actual simplification. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Offensive complexity is designed to lead the defense into a direction ot tendency and then play counter to that tendency. Simplification may eliminate some of that misdirection. SFIAH