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Rumors anyone: Jerry Jones just let Jason Garrett go after we lost.??

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I always felt both teams should touch the ball in OT of the playoffs

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Sean Payton for Zach Martin and a second round pick?

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I won't be shocked if Dallas calls us about Payton and I would listen to them.

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No way... Payton makes avg QBs look like all-stars (I don’t mean that as a shot at Drew). Payton calling plays for Taysom Hill at QB is what I want to see.

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Jerry/Stephen Jones isn't giving up multiple 1st rounders for Sean P.

Not happening.

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NFL needs the college OT rules and has for a long, long time now.

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I love Drew to the Moon and back but with the way defenses can attach QB’s with speed and power TH might be the future sooner than later. Lamar Jackson Mahones and Watson are the future of the game. They might not have long careers due the higher level of exposure to injury but times are changing. Not saying Brees is done but his window is on the down slide.

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Saints .
They have to come out early, first qrtr to win.

It was a great season. Another NFC Divisional Championship.

Saints. Defense AND Offense lost this game.

Flags . Well you know that.
Vikings td that was called a td that clearly was not a td, well of course.
I am NOT one of these conspiracy people.
This year, the L helped by the refs was not so bad. Last year was.

Bright spots.
Micheal Thomas, awesome year and his record breaking year.
. Brees and his record.
T. Hill, Jack of all trades, is Ms Gayles personal security, works concession, gets on the field as grtrbk, rb, hb, does booth commentary, lol. Seriously, the guy has made this year so exciting because he does so much.
His grtbck play today and every single time he was in the game today, thrilling. Effective and efficient.
Bridgewater. Following Brees is a hard act to follow. Bridgewater got here, earned his pay and place, fans respect, team, etc., by bringing 5 straight wins. Midseason.

Damn DCowboys are hogging the news , but I am anxious to see what the commentators say about the Vikings td that was that really was not.

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I wonder if SP will hear it from the meat guy at WholeFoods or if he's even worried about his meat?

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I was serious about Zach Martin and a No. 2... :-|


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Im still with Payton and I hope Brees comes back but even next year we are going to have to blow these teams out to win it all. I think Gaurd and WR are our most glaring needs. Jenkins played his ass off and I hope we can keep him.

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13-3 season. That is big. A big season. It feels like a loss to not go just to next week in playoffs.

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Always come to see your thoughts. Respect!!

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I did as well as Smash starting way back @ training camp. There is no way Peat should return. He's a liability and weak link on the line. Easton picked up the slack while Peat was injured and didn't miss a beat. Wouldn't call Andrus a bust, however he's been a very underwhelming player considering where he was drafted.

I expect his position to be addressed in the off season.

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- Out coached.
- Out played.
- Ref's and NFL got the last laugh.

- Payton continues to not run the ball and will always have a couple failures with clock management. If Dallas wants him and/or he's interested, the Saints should let him walk for a couple draft picks. Hire Campbell as the next Head Coach.
- If Brees wants to return, he absolutely should. Yes, his arm strength has diminished. Yes, he will be a year older. He's still one of the best. He's a great leader. He's a fierce competitor. He is and will be a drivng force for the Saints as long as he suits up.
- If Brees walks, let the T. Hill era happily begin. He's a beast. He has "it" as they say. Without him yesterday, and the season, the Saints would have most likely fell shorter. He deserves to be paid.
- Harris is a beast. Every effort should be made to make him, teach him, train him, and scheme him into a WR weapon.
- To save money and other reasons, Bridgewater, Peat, Ginn, Apple, Rankins, Robinson, Williams and Klien should all be allowed to move on.

- The Ref's AND the NFL did not like/support the rule change on PI. They were forced into it by the public and fans who want to see legit wrongs corrected and the outcome of games decided by players on the field. Why would the ref's AND the NFL not want to get it right? The ONLY legit reason for that is the ref's, supported by the NFL, have an interest in deciding the outcomes of games in regards to the winner and the line. Simple as that.
- Win or lose, I'm a Saints fan for life. I will watch until they plant me. But, the NFL is making me less interested and making the experience less fun.

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100%

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True and 49ers are going to mess them over. :lightsabre:

(I had Vikings playing wrong team.)
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Too much, too late. Up and down ending.
Watching game again. Last , about 4 mins.
Brees to Hill, beautiful.
Then right after , O line just over powered , what.
Three Vikings were right on Brees.
Saints fumble recovery and td by Klein was not. Called back after booth review. Viking knee was down.
Lutz kick. Then again because Vikings coach called time out in time enough by the rules.
And off to over time.

Oh well.

Too much, too late.

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I agree the refs are payed minuscule to the nfl pay scale and they could give a crap who they piss off . pay the got dammed refs and all this fixing bs with stop


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You say keep Brees but let Bridgewater go to save money! You can keep Bridgewater & Hill for the amount you talking about keeping a Brees. sure its going to be a cap hit to let him go but just think how much the cap hit going to be to let him stay. I think Bridgewater will be GREAT replacement for the saints. Give him the same opportunities as Brees and the transition might be like a Montana & Young.

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Sad dat, but .......

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That fumble happened because TGJr. He ran the wrong route and the Vikings were coming at him.

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The Vikings were coming at Brees.

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Even if someone did run the wrong route, you cant blame anybody but the ball carrier for a fumble. Brees messed up, people need to accept it.

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If I have to blame that fumble on anyone, it was Warford. It's one thing to whiff on a block and allow pressure up the middle. It's another thing to get bull-rushed by a smaller player and end up in your QB's lap when he's back in shotgun. Don't know how that can happen.

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Or the guy that was carrying the ball away from his body with a defender on his back.

Also pretty sure it was Ram that got beat.

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But still, any WR running the wrong route ... that's a problem.

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Yeah it definitely is. Just a further testament to Payton once again failing in the playoffs, it's not just the last 3 seasons. Look at any playoff loss since the Superbowl win, Saints are playoff chokers with Payton.

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I can't argue against that.

3 consecutive years, 3 consecutive heart break defeats in the post season :cry:.

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The Saints watched the Packers/Vikings MNF game two weeks ago and planned for that team. No killer instinct

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8 pages and brother I have to ask two things...

- What is your end goal here? What do you want to happen? Will someone agreeing with you give you a better day...

- What are you a fan of? Its obvious that you do not like the coach or QB.. Is the logo appealing? Color scheme.

You aren't commenting with your thoughts, you are driving an agenda. :bng:

We are all emotionally drained over the loss but no one here caused that loss and no one here can make us win. :love:

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No agenda here, I'm just voicing my thoughts. Some people dont like my opinions and that's fine, I'm not in the boat that blames the refs like some others. The only point I'm trying to make is that our team is consistently below average come playoff time and any player / coach no matter their legacy should be held accountable if they play poorly.

That isnt always well received by some, but I'm not verbally abusive to members of the forum like some are.

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The interior O-line is weak. I didn't realize that losing Max Unger to retirement would hurt so much. McCoy is good but he's not seasoned and the inside got little to no push. My twin brother reminded me that I called Peat the Pillsbury doughboy at camp when he showed up out of shape and soft. He never got tough enough in the trenches to suit me. Peat is on his seat more than his feet. We must draft a lineman early and bring another top tier free agent to compete for playing time. Our depth must be better. We can do it. Just keep investing 1st and 2nd round picks in the O-line and give Drew a few more years or his successor time.

The D-line looks good with Onyamata, Cam, Tuttle, Edwards, Davenport, and T-Rex. That's a pretty good core of players. Rankins might be looking at more money than we will offer considering what we have in house.

You win in the trenches and that's where injury took it's toll on us this year. We had good depth but two of our starters were questionable between Peat and Warford. When we signed Warford there was another free agent available who cost more. I wanted him. I've herd he's doing well.