Stuff like this is why the rest of the NFL fan bases hate us. I would know, cause I go on other team's boards a lot, and even the AFC teams absolutely hate us now.

We really have embraced victimhood as our identity. We are known as the biggest whiners and moaners of NFL fan bases now. We're basically the same team and fan base the 49ers were under Harbaugh. All they ever did was whine and moan about officiating when they lost in the playoffs. Only now 49ers fans are beginning to accept and realize that Harbaugh was an annoying whiner and was getting out-coached in all of those playoff losses regardless if bad calls went against them. We can't even admit this about Payton getting clowned in playoff losses or the fact that Brees has put together a playoff record that rivals Peyton Manning in terms of disappointment. We can't admit this cause they're both GOATs in our eyes.

Nothing is ever Payton, Allen, Brees or this team's fault. Oh no, it's always refs and Goodell. This fan base will over-analyze every single call or non-call whatever it is and come up with a half baked conspiracy theory about it. I posted on here for months about how undisciplined our defense was and few cared. Eli Apple led the league most of the year in drawing pass interference calls. Instead of holding him accountable, everyone just complains about the refs.

No one feels sorry for us and no one should. This is the NFL. Man the hell up and take accountability for blowing games and playing like **** in the post season. That seems like a foreign concept to the majority of this fan base and the team.

As I said in another thread - Minnesota came into our house and shoved us around like a school yard bully and we're basically crying to the teacher that they don't care and won't punish them. We allowed them to come into our house and clown us. Not the refs. The refs didn't put these rosters together and coach bad games.

That was a tick-tacky non-call and I'm glad it wasn't called. DON'T GIVE UP A 40 YARD BOMB PASS PLAY!!! Better yet, don't fumble the ball on what could be a game winning drive, or you know what? Actually play a good game against them. The 49ers showed yesterday, you could attack Minny up the middle by focusing on the run and also key mismatches in their secondary. The Vikings were beatable and we didn't take advantage of anything on the field. For 3 quarters they were bullying us on our home turf. That's 2 playoff games Payton has been clowned by Mike Zimmer, who goes on to get blown out to Philly in 2017 and SF yesterday.

You guys should deep dive into the 70's and 80's Raiders if you want to see a team who truly did have a target on their back whom the NFL hated. Al Davis back in the day was hated for how he handled business and his teams were dealt some bad calls in playoff losses. But guess what? The Raiders had the HIGHEST win percentage in the NFL during the 70's and 80's. They won more games than Landry's Cowboys, Noll's Steelers and Shula's Dolphins. They also won 3 SBs. THEY GOT IT DONE. They didn't sit around whining and moaning for years after the Immaculate Reception didn't get called back and they were robbed in Pittsburgh on what was an illegal play. Instead, they punished that Steelers team in the 1976 playoffs by beating the living crap out of them. Huge difference compared to us. We let Minnesota pull a miracle hail mary on us, then a few years later come into our house and smack us around.

People despised the old Raiders because they were successful and would humiliate your favorite team. We're hated cause we get our asses beat in the playoffs handily, and instead of accepting reality, we focus on some non-call and penalties and blame it all on that.

Stuff like this is why the rest of the NFL fan bases hate us. I would know, cause I go on other team's boards a lot, and even the AFC teams absolutely hate us now.

We really have embraced victimhood as our identity. We are known as the biggest whiners and moaners of NFL fan bases now. We're basically the same team and fan base the 49ers were under Harbaugh. All they ever did was whine and moan about officiating when they lost in the playoffs. Only now 49ers fans are beginning to accept and realize that Harbaugh was an annoying whiner and was getting out-coached in all of those playoff losses regardless if bad calls went against them. We can't even admit this about Payton getting clowned in playoff losses or the fact that Brees has put together a playoff record that rivals Peyton Manning in terms of disappointment. We can't admit this cause they're both GOATs in our eyes.

Nothing is ever Payton, Allen, Brees or this team's fault. Oh no, it's always refs and Goodell. This fan base will over-analyze every single call or non-call whatever it is and come up with a half baked conspiracy theory about it. I posted on here for months about how undisciplined our defense was and few cared. Eli Apple led the league most of the year in drawing pass interference calls. Instead of holding him accountable, everyone just complains about the refs.

No one feels sorry for us and no one should. This is the NFL. Man the hell up and take accountability for blowing games and playing like **** in the post season. That seems like a foreign concept to the majority of this fan base and the team.

As I said in another thread - Minnesota came into our house and shoved us around like a school yard bully and we're basically crying to the teacher that they don't care and won't punish them. We allowed them to come into our house and clown us. Not the refs. The refs didn't put these rosters together and coach bad games.

That was a tick-tacky non-call and I'm glad it wasn't called. DON'T GIVE UP A 40 YARD BOMB PASS PLAY!!! Better yet, don't fumble the ball on what could be a game winning drive, or you know what? Actually play a good game against them. The 49ers showed yesterday, you could attack Minny up the middle by focusing on the run and also key mismatches in their secondary. The Vikings were beatable and we didn't take advantage of anything on the field. For 3 quarters they were bullying us on our home turf. That's 2 playoff games Payton has been clowned by Mike Zimmer, who goes on to get blown out to Philly in 2017 and SF yesterday.

You guys should deep dive into the 70's and 80's Raiders if you want to see a team who truly did have a target on their back whom the NFL hated. Al Davis back in the day was hated for how he handled business and his teams were dealt some bad calls in playoff losses. But guess what? The Raiders had the HIGHEST win percentage in the NFL during the 70's and 80's. They won more games than Landry's Cowboys, Noll's Steelers and Shula's Dolphins. They also won 3 SBs. THEY GOT IT DONE. They didn't sit around whining and moaning for years after the Immaculate Reception didn't get called back and they were robbed in Pittsburgh on what was an illegal play. Instead, they punished that Steelers team in the 1976 playoffs by beating the living crap out of them. Huge difference compared to us. We let Minnesota pull a miracle hail mary on us, then a few years later come into our house and smack us around.

People despised the old Raiders because they were successful and would humiliate your favorite team. We're hated cause we get our asses beat in the playoffs handily, and instead of accepting reality, we focus on some non-call and penalties and blame it all on that.