2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects

foreverfan · 01-08-2020, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Oh man I’ve been waiting for this thread!!

Don't try and tell me the season is dead...

jeanpierre · 01-08-2020, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

jeanpierre · 01-08-2020, 11:52 AM

Been giving this some thought about Payton's reluctance to employ Murray more in the Saints' running game...

And I think I've identified the problem - Murray left too much meat on the bone, that is was knocked off balance and fell down in secondaries...

Payton is a perfectionist, and wants to hit a home run on every single play, that's why Ingram saw the ball so much in the 2017 run, because he kept ripping off those long @ss runs, what he was drafted...

Now, for me, while Murray did fall down a few times, I'd still prefer eight yards and a cloud of dust along with 0:50 secs of ball control per play, but Payton wants to run a fast-break offense, still doesn't get it...

Which circles me back to why'd we let Ingram go and sign and more expensive Murray, when we'd had the money to upgrade, desperately needed, Z-WR in Ted Ginn?!?

Enter Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor or LSUs Clyde E'Claire; Taylor has that big play ability, E'Claire is more of Pierre Thomas; don't be surprised if Payton makes a move in the draft for either...

K Major · 01-08-2020, 12:01 PM

We've seen enough games for years now to know it won't matter who the RB is in New Orleans as long as Sean is calling plays.

He will simply not embrace the notion of staying committed to running the football. It's not who he is as a play caller.

blackangold · 01-08-2020, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Been giving this some thought about Payton's reluctance to employ Murray more in the Saints' running game...

And I think I've identified the problem - Murray left too much meat on the bone, that is was knocked off balance and fell down in secondaries...

Payton is a perfectionist, and wants to hit a home run on every single play, that's why Ingram saw the ball so much in the 2017 run, because he kept ripping off those long @ss runs, what he was drafted...

Now, for me, while Murray did fall down a few times, I'd still prefer eight yards and a cloud of dust along with 0:50 secs of ball control per play, but Payton wants to run a fast-break offense, still doesn't get it...

Which circles me back to why'd we let Ingram go and sign and more expensive Murray, when we'd had the money to upgrade, desperately needed, Z-WR in Ted Ginn?!?

Enter Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor or LSUs Clyde E'Claire; Taylor has that big play ability, E'Claire is more of Pierre Thomas; don't be surprised if Payton makes a move in the draft for either...

I don’t buy that. There is no one on this team that left more “meat on the bone” than Alvin Kamara this year. You could feed a family of 4 with the amount he left out there. Yet Payton kept talking about needing to get him the ball more. Payton has his guys that he doesn’t want to get outshined, Murray looked better than AK all year, I don’t think Payton likes that too much...

RefsRobbedUs · 01-08-2020, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Of course. Especially Clyde ... what is there NOT to like about my Alma Mater (CATHOLIC HIGH- BR) RB's .

Warrick Dunn
Travis Minor
Jeremy Stewart
Derrius Guice
Clyde-Edwards-Helaire

Wishing thinking on RB though .. .Sean won't run the damn football when we need to.

I think during one of the LSU games they mentioned that Drew Brees said Clyde reminds him so much of Mark Ingram

neugey · 01-08-2020, 01:03 PM

I also wouldn't mind drafting Navy QB Malcolm Perry and seeing what he could do for us. He looked special in that Army-Navy game.

foreverfan · 01-08-2020, 03:37 PM

END OF SEASON RECAP.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Oh man I’ve been waiting for this thread!!

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Don't try and tell me the season is dead...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You're Killing Me.

MarchingOn · 01-08-2020, 04:13 PM

Thank you for the tips, JeanPierre. I've seen none of them play but intrigued by:

C/RG Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 316 lbs. Like he's only 6'3" (maybe he'll fall over that). If he ever played next to Ramz then I'd bump him up. Would have a head start on chemistry the OL thrives on. Wonder if his name is (or will be) pronounced Badass?

LG/RG Ben Bredeson, Michigan; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 325 lbs. Like the weight and capability to play both Guard positions...just where we're weakest.

DL Nick Coe, Auburn; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 291 lbs. Wonder if he could be a DE in the Cam Jordan size/strength realm.

DL Leki Fotu, Utah; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 335 lbs. We have needed a BIG ugly in the middle for many years. Why don't we finally stop the runs up the middle already?

Rugby Saint II · 01-09-2020, 12:49 PM

This is my favorite thread. I will spend months here learning about our deficiencies and who we like to fix them. We've got some good talent evaluators on the bng. Although, I was talking about this subject yesterday and I couldn't help but saying that I miss Hagan every year at this time.

Sometimes I just stare and wonder why? I loved his Avatar.

01-08-2020, 10:22 AM	#11
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Oh man I’ve been waiting for this thread!! Don't try and tell me the season is dead... jeanpierre and ChrisXVI like this.
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01-08-2020, 11:52 AM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Been giving this some thought about Payton's reluctance to employ Murray more in the Saints' running game... And I think I've identified the problem - Murray left too much meat on the bone, that is was knocked off balance and fell down in secondaries... Payton is a perfectionist, and wants to hit a home run on every single play, that's why Ingram saw the ball so much in the 2017 run, because he kept ripping off those long @ss runs, what he was drafted... Now, for me, while Murray did fall down a few times, I'd still prefer eight yards and a cloud of dust along with 0:50 secs of ball control per play, but Payton wants to run a fast-break offense, still doesn't get it... Which circles me back to why'd we let Ingram go and sign and more expensive Murray, when we'd had the money to upgrade, desperately needed, Z-WR in Ted Ginn?!? Enter Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor or LSUs Clyde E'Claire; Taylor has that big play ability, E'Claire is more of Pierre Thomas; don't be surprised if Payton makes a move in the draft for either... Rell&Gold likes this.
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01-08-2020, 12:01 PM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects We've seen enough games for years now to know it won't matter who the RB is in New Orleans as long as Sean is calling plays. He will simply not embrace the notion of staying committed to running the football. It's not who he is as a play caller. Rsanders24, jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

01-08-2020, 12:14 PM	#15
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Been giving this some thought about Payton's reluctance to employ Murray more in the Saints' running game... And I think I've identified the problem - Murray left too much meat on the bone, that is was knocked off balance and fell down in secondaries... Payton is a perfectionist, and wants to hit a home run on every single play, that's why Ingram saw the ball so much in the 2017 run, because he kept ripping off those long @ss runs, what he was drafted... Now, for me, while Murray did fall down a few times, I'd still prefer eight yards and a cloud of dust along with 0:50 secs of ball control per play, but Payton wants to run a fast-break offense, still doesn't get it... Which circles me back to why'd we let Ingram go and sign and more expensive Murray, when we'd had the money to upgrade, desperately needed, Z-WR in Ted Ginn?!? Enter Wisconsin Jonathan Taylor or LSUs Clyde E'Claire; Taylor has that big play ability, E'Claire is more of Pierre Thomas; don't be surprised if Payton makes a move in the draft for either... I don’t buy that. There is no one on this team that left more “meat on the bone” than Alvin Kamara this year. You could feed a family of 4 with the amount he left out there. Yet Payton kept talking about needing to get him the ball more. Payton has his guys that he doesn’t want to get outshined, Murray looked better than AK all year, I don’t think Payton likes that too much...

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects I also wouldn't mind drafting Navy QB Malcolm Perry and seeing what he could do for us. He looked special in that Army-Navy game.

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MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Thank you for the tips, JeanPierre. I've seen none of them play but intrigued by: C/RG Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 316 lbs. Like he's only 6'3" (maybe he'll fall over that). If he ever played next to Ramz then I'd bump him up. Would have a head start on chemistry the OL thrives on. Wonder if his name is (or will be) pronounced Badass? LG/RG Ben Bredeson, Michigan; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 325 lbs. Like the weight and capability to play both Guard positions...just where we're weakest. DL Nick Coe, Auburn; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 291 lbs. Wonder if he could be a DE in the Cam Jordan size/strength realm. DL Leki Fotu, Utah; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 335 lbs. We have needed a BIG ugly in the middle for many years. Why don't we finally stop the runs up the middle already? Barry from MS, jeanpierre and halloween 65 like this.

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