Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans

FinSaint · 01-09-2020, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don't think Allen's scheme is to not tackle or to grab a facemask in critical game moments, but I could be wrong...

I wouldn't put it past him...

No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning.

blackangold · 01-09-2020, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I wouldn't put it past him...

No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning.

lol

Perhaps, of course as fans we never really know if someone is in the right position or not. For his individual efforts is how I try to judge him.

Does he drop INTs that should be made? No
Does he miss tackles? Yes
Does he let WRs get deep? Yes (he rarely seems to be in position, maybe scheme)
Does he make bad plays in critical moments? Yes

He just seems very average 95% of the time, but can be counted on to fail when needed most. That's just my opinion, unfortunately I think Allen and Payton like him so doubt anything changes.

K Major · 01-09-2020, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I wouldn't put it past him...

No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning.

Mixed bag for me but you cannot give up 40+ yard bombs in overtime in the playoffs with the game on the line w/Marcus being LATE to defend. If Williams isn't capable, quit playing single high.

These deep ball meltdowns are happening far too often.

K Major · 01-09-2020, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He just seems very average 95% of the time, but can be counted on to fail when needed most. That's just my opinion, unfortunately I think Allen and Payton like him so doubt anything changes.

If that is truly their theory, shame on us and we'll continue to take L's in the playoffs.

dizzle88 · 01-09-2020, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If that is truly their theory, shame on us and we'll continue to take L's in the playoffs.

That's the thing about Payton that annoys me. He's far too stubborn to admit our deficiencies, which is why we fail every year in the playoffs.

He proved earlier when Teddy was QB, that run game and D will win us games. Then proceeds to keep Murray on the sideline when he had something to prove, and put the ball in Brees' hands when it was obvious he was intimidated / rattled.

Not addressing WR in the draft was my first realisation that this year was going to end in a similar fashion.

halloween 65 · 01-09-2020, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Mixed bag for me but you cannot give up 40+ yard bombs in overtime in the playoffs with the game on the line w/Marcus being LATE to defend. If Williams isn't capable, quit playing single high.

These deep ball meltdowns are happening far too often.

You bring up a good point about playing single high. I would love to finally get a FS that can. We don't have 1. Would take alot off of the cb.'s. If Lattimore can man up and Jenkins man up throwing deep would get tricky with a good FS. Bell shore up the SS spot and CJG on slot coild make for a great backfield. I also keep Apple, hard to find a reliever as good when healthy.

darksoul35 · 01-09-2020, 08:18 PM

Lets not forget about the D-line. Cousins rarely had pressure and the injuries on the line definitely affected our run D. DBs choked but the line is far from getting a pass.

Rugby Saint II · 01-11-2020, 02:18 PM

I'm a little worried about his character and any distractions that he may cause. However, he sure looked good in coverage. He's kinda' pricey though.

vpheughan · 01-11-2020, 05:29 PM

He's kinda' pricey though.

Heard the same about TB. What's 5-0 as a starter worth?

K Major · 01-19-2020, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm a little worried about his character and any distractions that he may cause. However, he sure looked good in coverage. He's kinda' pricey though.

Janoris is an experienced, smart and crafty cornerback with elite skills.

In the short time he was in New Orleans, he played wonderful in the game that mattered most. Totally frustrated S Diggs for 4 quarters.

I believe either Janoris or Eli (his play fell off a cliff post Chicago game) will be back but not both. Teams sure picked (Ridley, Emmanuel Sanders and DJ Moore) on Eli late in the season ... apparently they saw a weakness in the secondary and exploited it.

Give me Jack Rabbit.

01-09-2020, 03:16 PM	#21
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by blackangold I don't think Allen's scheme is to not tackle or to grab a facemask in critical game moments, but I could be wrong... I wouldn't put it past him... No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning.

01-09-2020, 03:23 PM	#22
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by FinSaint I wouldn't put it past him... No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning. lol Perhaps, of course as fans we never really know if someone is in the right position or not. For his individual efforts is how I try to judge him. Does he drop INTs that should be made? No Does he miss tackles? Yes Does he let WRs get deep? Yes (he rarely seems to be in position, maybe scheme) Does he make bad plays in critical moments? Yes He just seems very average 95% of the time, but can be counted on to fail when needed most. That's just my opinion, unfortunately I think Allen and Payton like him so doubt anything changes. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-09-2020, 03:31 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by FinSaint I wouldn't put it past him... No, but seriously, I mainly meant positioning. Mixed bag for me but you cannot give up 40+ yard bombs in overtime in the playoffs with the game on the line w/Marcus being LATE to defend. If Williams isn't capable, quit playing single high. These deep ball meltdowns are happening far too often. dizzle88 likes this.

01-09-2020, 03:35 PM	#24
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by blackangold He just seems very average 95% of the time, but can be counted on to fail when needed most. That's just my opinion, unfortunately I think Allen and Payton like him so doubt anything changes. If that is truly their theory, shame on us and we'll continue to take L's in the playoffs. dizzle88 likes this.

01-09-2020, 04:41 PM	#25
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by K Major If that is truly their theory, shame on us and we'll continue to take L's in the playoffs. That's the thing about Payton that annoys me. He's far too stubborn to admit our deficiencies, which is why we fail every year in the playoffs. He proved earlier when Teddy was QB, that run game and D will win us games. Then proceeds to keep Murray on the sideline when he had something to prove, and put the ball in Brees' hands when it was obvious he was intimidated / rattled. Not addressing WR in the draft was my first realisation that this year was going to end in a similar fashion. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by K Major Mixed bag for me but you cannot give up 40+ yard bombs in overtime in the playoffs with the game on the line w/Marcus being LATE to defend. If Williams isn't capable, quit playing single high. These deep ball meltdowns are happening far too often. You bring up a good point about playing single high. I would love to finally get a FS that can. We don't have 1. Would take alot off of the cb.'s. If Lattimore can man up and Jenkins man up throwing deep would get tricky with a good FS. Bell shore up the SS spot and CJG on slot coild make for a great backfield. I also keep Apple, hard to find a reliever as good when healthy. MarchingOn likes this.

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darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Lets not forget about the D-line. Cousins rarely had pressure and the injuries on the line definitely affected our run D. DBs choked but the line is far from getting a pass.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans I'm a little worried about his character and any distractions that he may cause. However, he sure looked good in coverage. He's kinda' pricey though.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,519	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans He's kinda' pricey though. Heard the same about TB. What's 5-0 as a starter worth? Rsanders24 likes this.
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01-19-2020, 11:00 AM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Janoris Jenkins hopes to stay in New Orleans Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm a little worried about his character and any distractions that he may cause. However, he sure looked good in coverage. He's kinda' pricey though. Janoris is an experienced, smart and crafty cornerback with elite skills. In the short time he was in New Orleans, he played wonderful in the game that mattered most. Totally frustrated S Diggs for 4 quarters. I believe either Janoris or Eli (his play fell off a cliff post Chicago game) will be back but not both. Teams sure picked (Ridley, Emmanuel Sanders and DJ Moore) on Eli late in the season ... apparently they saw a weakness in the secondary and exploited it. Give me Jack Rabbit.

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