The 2006 Offseason Excuse Thread

WhoDat · 08-08-2005, 09:45 AM

All of these excuses you're pointing to weren't the reasons we didn't make the playoffs. But leave it to the pessimists to try and play the I told you so, when they actually didn't. The pessimist's M.O. I really feel sorry for you guys.

Lighten up Danno. It's a joke.

See:

LOL

No, I'm not really that negative... yet... but I do enjoy predicting the next year's offseason excuses...

And for the record, I think the only thing worse than people complaining about the Saints, are the people who complain about the fans. Have fun with it - I promise you'll feel better.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-08-2005, 03:12 PM

.. I rather be a pessy than a possy...

Saint_LB · 08-08-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

.. I rather be a pessy than a possy...

But what would you rather eat? 8)

TheGambler · 08-08-2005, 05:50 PM

I hate this thread. Just like I hate the Jonathan Sullivan discussions implying that we should cut him RIGHT NOW.

I can honestly say I feel more optimistic about this season than I have about any other prior season. We know what the offense can do.......we've seen Aaron Brooks turn a corner by winning that "must-win" game in Carolina that seemed to elude him in prior years.......

And in other news, for the first time in 2 or 3 years, our starting cornerbacks aren't named Ashley Ambrose and Fred Thomas. Couple that with the addition of Dwight Smith, a known playmaker and a member of a Super Bowl team.....and you have reason for optimism. How about our young stud linebackers. More optimism?

No, this isn't just any other year. Let's play some football. I'm ready.

P.S. I've seen a lot of anti-Carney talk lately. I'm predicting he has another solid year.

saintswhodi · 08-08-2005, 05:55 PM

P.S. I've seen a lot of anti-Carney talk lately. I'm predicting he has another solid year.

Solid as in anything beyond the 28-31 yard line we have to go for it or punt? Cause his range only seems to be 45-48 yards and in now, plus shallow kickoffs. I was hoping we would get Edinger when Chicago cut him. That guy has a rocket for a leg. Just hope we don't need any 50 yarders for game winners.

Saint_LB · 08-08-2005, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

plus shallow kickoffs.

Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs?

saintz08 · 08-08-2005, 08:26 PM

Couple that with the addition of Dwight Smith, a known playmaker and a member of a Super Bowl team.....

What ???

This is some serious glory holeing if I have ever seen it ....

The Saints went out and got a cover 2 safety . The Saints are not a cover 2 defense , Smith played a soft zone in Tampa and if Venturi even get's the terminology right for the defense , it could turn out this guy get's lost in the Saints defensive system if you can call it a system .

saintswhodi · 08-08-2005, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

plus shallow kickoffs.

Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs?

You could be right LB. But then, doesn't that mean that Carney has shallow kick-offs?

Saint_LB · 08-09-2005, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

plus shallow kickoffs.

Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs?

You could be right LB. But then, doesn't that mean that Carney has shallow kick-offs?

Yes, it does...not to mention the fact that if the opposition had someone running free in open field with only the kicker to beat, I'd rather it be Berger than Carney, if only because Berger would be a little harder to run over.

It's too bad that his leg is not a little stronger, because you have to like his accuracy. I know he missed that extra point at the end of the '03 season, but am I the only one who knew at the time that he missed that kick that we were already eliminated from the playoffs? The way you hear people talk about it, you would think that it cost us a playoff appearance, but it didn't.

saintswhodi · 08-09-2005, 08:51 AM

Funny thing about missing that extra point, Carney had complained to Haslett weeks earlier that he was having a problem with the holder, who I think was Berger at that time. HE complained to Haz after missing a late field goal in the Carolina game a few weeks earlier. Haz told him to deal with it. Then he missed that extra point. Needless to say someone else was holding last year. Either Berger was the holder in 03 that got switched, or someone else was holding and they switched to Berger. I really can't recall who was holding last year.

08-08-2005, 09:45 AM	#31
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	All of these excuses you're pointing to weren't the reasons we didn't make the playoffs. But leave it to the pessimists to try and play the I told you so, when they actually didn't. The pessimist's M.O. I really feel sorry for you guys. Lighten up Danno. It's a joke. See: LOL No, I'm not really that negative... yet... but I do enjoy predicting the next year's offseason excuses... And for the record, I think the only thing worse than people complaining about the Saints, are the people who complain about the fans. Have fun with it - I promise you'll feel better.
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08-08-2005, 04:43 PM	#33
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper .. I rather be a pessy than a possy... But what would you rather eat? 8)
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08-08-2005, 05:50 PM	#34
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	I hate this thread. Just like I hate the Jonathan Sullivan discussions implying that we should cut him RIGHT NOW. I can honestly say I feel more optimistic about this season than I have about any other prior season. We know what the offense can do.......we've seen Aaron Brooks turn a corner by winning that "must-win" game in Carolina that seemed to elude him in prior years....... And in other news, for the first time in 2 or 3 years, our starting cornerbacks aren't named Ashley Ambrose and Fred Thomas. Couple that with the addition of Dwight Smith, a known playmaker and a member of a Super Bowl team.....and you have reason for optimism. How about our young stud linebackers. More optimism? No, this isn't just any other year. Let's play some football. I'm ready. P.S. I've seen a lot of anti-Carney talk lately. I'm predicting he has another solid year.
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08-08-2005, 06:23 PM	#36
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by saintswhodi plus shallow kickoffs. Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs?
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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Couple that with the addition of Dwight Smith, a known playmaker and a member of a Super Bowl team..... What ??? This is some serious glory holeing if I have ever seen it .... The Saints went out and got a cover 2 safety . The Saints are not a cover 2 defense , Smith played a soft zone in Tampa and if Venturi even get's the terminology right for the defense , it could turn out this guy get's lost in the Saints defensive system if you can call it a system .
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	P.S. I've seen a lot of anti-Carney talk lately. I'm predicting he has another solid year. Solid as in anything beyond the 28-31 yard line we have to go for it or punt? Cause his range only seems to be 45-48 yards and in now, plus shallow kickoffs. I was hoping we would get Edinger when Chicago cut him. That guy has a rocket for a leg. Just hope we don't need any 50 yarders for game winners.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Originally Posted by saintswhodi plus shallow kickoffs. Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs? You could be right LB. But then, doesn't that mean that Carney has shallow kick-offs?

08-09-2005, 07:04 AM	#39
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by Saint_LB Originally Posted by saintswhodi plus shallow kickoffs. Doesn't Berger handle the kickoffs? You could be right LB. But then, doesn't that mean that Carney has shallow kick-offs? Yes, it does...not to mention the fact that if the opposition had someone running free in open field with only the kicker to beat, I'd rather it be Berger than Carney, if only because Berger would be a little harder to run over. It's too bad that his leg is not a little stronger, because you have to like his accuracy. I know he missed that extra point at the end of the '03 season, but am I the only one who knew at the time that he missed that kick that we were already eliminated from the playoffs? The way you hear people talk about it, you would think that it cost us a playoff appearance, but it didn't.
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08-09-2005, 08:51 AM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Funny thing about missing that extra point, Carney had complained to Haslett weeks earlier that he was having a problem with the holder, who I think was Berger at that time. HE complained to Haz after missing a late field goal in the Carolina game a few weeks earlier. Haz told him to deal with it. Then he missed that extra point. Needless to say someone else was holding last year. Either Berger was the holder in 03 that got switched, or someone else was holding and they switched to Berger. I really can't recall who was holding last year.