USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason

K Major · 01-13-2020, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Fair, but they weren't missing guys in the same places we were, same skill strategic places we did...

San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road.
At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done.

I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close.

Vrillon82 · 01-13-2020, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road.
At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done.

I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close.

no reason for the defense not to finish top 5 IMO.

talent is there, but it seems Dennis Allen has a habit of having a defense that goes to sleep at times.

Just to make a point, in 3 playoff losses over last 3 years, we have allowed average to below average offenses score well above what they normally do.

Vikings scoring 26 should never happen, 49ers kept them at 10.

Rams scored 26, Patriots kept them to 3 in the SB, Rams offense went bad after Chicago, they havent been much better off this year hence why they missed the playoffs.

Vikings in 2017 scored 25+ (was it 29?) Eagles the next week kept them I think to 7.

bottom line is, we dont have a defense in the playoffs and its concerning.

blackangold · 01-14-2020, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

no reason for the defense not to finish top 5 IMO.

talent is there, but it seems Dennis Allen has a habit of having a defense that goes to sleep at times.

Just to make a point, in 3 playoff losses over last 3 years, we have allowed average to below average offenses score well above what they normally do.

Vikings scoring 26 should never happen, 49ers kept them at 10.

Rams scored 26, Patriots kept them to 3 in the SB, Rams offense went bad after Chicago, they havent been much better off this year hence why they missed the playoffs.

Vikings in 2017 scored 25+ (was it 29?) Eagles the next week kept them I think to 7.

bottom line is, we dont have a defense in the playoffs and its concerning.

I have the exact opposite point of view.

Our offense takes a dump in the playoffs consistently. Our defense has held every one of the teams you mentioned to their average or below their average scores for the season. Our offense can’t score more than 25 points in the playoffs and fails to give the D a break at all.

What do you expect when the offense is turning the ball over and getting constant 3 and outs? When you lose the time of possession it wears a D down, and we usually breakdown in the 4th qtr.

For years we wanted just an average defense, now apparently we need the #1 D in the league to win a playoff game... lol

jeanpierre · 01-14-2020, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road.
At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done.

I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close.

You or Sean Payton?

Right Now you have 10Xs the credibility by our social interaction in this community and we've never met face-to-face...

K Major · 01-14-2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You or Sean Payton?

Right Now you have 10Xs the credibility by our social interaction in this community and we've never met face-to-face...

It's a shame the only person who'll call out coach on his flaws/game planning is the butcher at Whole Foods

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jeanpierre · 01-14-2020, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

It's a shame the only person who'll call out coach on his flaws/game planning is the butcher at Whole Foods .

Hey, you worry about yo' meat!

01-13-2020, 11:44 PM	#2
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by K Major San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road. At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done. I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close. no reason for the defense not to finish top 5 IMO. talent is there, but it seems Dennis Allen has a habit of having a defense that goes to sleep at times. Just to make a point, in 3 playoff losses over last 3 years, we have allowed average to below average offenses score well above what they normally do. Vikings scoring 26 should never happen, 49ers kept them at 10. Rams scored 26, Patriots kept them to 3 in the SB, Rams offense went bad after Chicago, they havent been much better off this year hence why they missed the playoffs. Vikings in 2017 scored 25+ (was it 29?) Eagles the next week kept them I think to 7. bottom line is, we dont have a defense in the playoffs and its concerning. Barry from MS and darksoul35 like this.
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01-14-2020, 09:54 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by Vrillon82 no reason for the defense not to finish top 5 IMO. talent is there, but it seems Dennis Allen has a habit of having a defense that goes to sleep at times. Just to make a point, in 3 playoff losses over last 3 years, we have allowed average to below average offenses score well above what they normally do. Vikings scoring 26 should never happen, 49ers kept them at 10. Rams scored 26, Patriots kept them to 3 in the SB, Rams offense went bad after Chicago, they havent been much better off this year hence why they missed the playoffs. Vikings in 2017 scored 25+ (was it 29?) Eagles the next week kept them I think to 7. bottom line is, we dont have a defense in the playoffs and its concerning. I have the exact opposite point of view. Our offense takes a dump in the playoffs consistently. Our defense has held every one of the teams you mentioned to their average or below their average scores for the season. Our offense can’t score more than 25 points in the playoffs and fails to give the D a break at all. What do you expect when the offense is turning the ball over and getting constant 3 and outs? When you lose the time of possession it wears a D down, and we usually breakdown in the 4th qtr. For years we wanted just an average defense, now apparently we need the #1 D in the league to win a playoff game... lol ScottF and rezburna like this.
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01-14-2020, 10:31 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by K Major San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road. At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done. I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close. You or Sean Payton? Right Now you have 10Xs the credibility by our social interaction in this community and we've never met face-to-face... ScottF likes this.

01-14-2020, 10:35 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by jeanpierre You or Sean Payton? Right Now you have 10Xs the credibility by our social interaction in this community and we've never met face-to-face... It's a shame the only person who'll call out coach on his flaws/game planning is the butcher at Whole Foods . Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-14-2020, 11:01 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by K Major It's a shame the only person who'll call out coach on his flaws/game planning is the butcher at Whole Foods . *Hey, you worry about yo' meat!* K Major likes this.

01-13-2020, 05:50 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 5 pending free agents the Saints should let walk in 2020 offseason Originally Posted by jeanpierre Fair, but they weren't missing guys in the same places we were, same skill strategic places we did... San Fran had only 5 starters from last year to this season. They were 4-12 this time last year and 0-8 on the road. At the start of 2019, we were saying that we just needed to be "middle of the road" on D. Well we finished #11 on defense and the offense craps the bed. I guess next season we'll need to finish top 5 on D to get it done. I've run out of excuses for the Saints not being able to close. Barry from MS and rezburna like this.