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neugey 01-15-2020 09:04 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
The financial situation with Brees is what it is - it serves us and him best to bring him back for next season. But being held hostage is a negative way to think of it.

At QB we need to bring back Brees and Taysom and just refine our schemes. Make things a bit simpler and more effective. And it sure would help IMO to mix in some up-tempo stuff. But the offense clearly needs more suitable pieces. We actually should consider going 100% offense in the draft - OG, WR, TE, RB, FB are all needs to a certain extent. Who those exact pieces are, it's tough to say. If it were left to me I'd be tempted to draft WR's Duvernay and Tyler Johnson - guys that are much more than just young burners. JK Dobbins and Clyde E-H at RB, two tough mo'fo's so we never run out of good RB's like San Fran. An athletic sleeper TE that causes matchup problems like Jonnu Smith from the Titans would really help. FB will probably be a rookie free agent but we will have to scout and do our homework to find the right guy. We need to wear teams down with the running game and possession passing.

We may have to let more of our free agents walk than is normally comfortable. But who cares? We have to think long-term too. If we need to move a defensive vet or two, even someone like Cam Jordan or Demario Davis and get more draft picks, might have to pull the trigger because the draft is just so balls deep with talent this year.

jeanpierre 01-15-2020 09:23 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 877417)
The financial situation with Brees is what it is - it serves us and him best to bring him back for next season. But being held hostage is a negative way to think of it.

At QB we need to bring back Brees and Taysom and just refine our schemes. Make things a bit simpler and more effective. And it sure would help IMO to mix in some up-tempo stuff. But the offense clearly needs more suitable pieces. We actually should consider going 100% offense in the draft - OG, WR, TE, RB, FB are all needs to a certain extent. Who those exact pieces are, it's tough to say. If it were left to me I'd be tempted to draft WR's Duvernay and Tyler Johnson - guys that are much more than just young burners. JK Dobbins and Clyde E-H at RB, two tough mo'fo's so we never run out of good RB's like San Fran. An athletic sleeper TE that causes matchup problems like Jonnu Smith from the Titans would really help. FB will probably be a rookie free agent but we will have to scout and do our homework to find the right guy. We need to wear teams down with the running game and possession passing.

We may have to let more of our free agents walk than is normally comfortable. But who cares? We have to think long-term too. If we need to move a defensive vet or two, even someone like Cam Jordan or Demario Davis and get more draft picks, might have to pull the trigger because the draft is just so balls deep with talent this year.

Plus+One! Loomis gets his orders from Payton, and Sean is borrowing against the future, over-budget now, like most politicians...

Payton could give two f*cks about the next three years and when it catches up to the Saints, Payton will leave for greener pastures...

But in no way is this on Brees, nor is he keeping the team hostage; for what he brings the team in quarterback play and leadership - we've got a deal...

cmike 01-15-2020 10:49 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 877360)
Adding names to the list of players who failed to get us to a SB this year

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Peat, Lattimore, Thomas, Kamara, Davis

Jordan talkin all dat S$$t failed to get to Cousins, Goff and Keenum on critical plays.

Beastmode 01-15-2020 11:29 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
If we had epic lines he can totally stay. We do not. The trend right now is a QB than can and will run with authority. Specific plays designed for those runs.

Brees, no designed runs and that is a problem. Can't just dink and dunk all day. It really hurt us this go. No ability to create something out of nothing.

TheOak 01-16-2020 06:30 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877322)
Drew Brees will be coming back one more season to seal the deal on his HOF career . And in my honest opinion will not get us back to a Super Bowl . Simply doing it for the records . Sorry if it burns some of ur pussies but jmo. Think about it. This offense has lost its confidence in Drew and Payton for plays he has to call to suit Drew’s decline . We have to put in another guy to throw long which alerts the common 12 year old fan to defend either a bomb or a qb sweep. They will be ready for it next season. Come next season my expectations are minuscule . Because I’m done getting burnt by the eye candy.


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(Puts on Freud hat)

Very interesting. You are on a football website where there are 99.97% men and other men's "pussies" are on your mind... <---- This statement has as much to do with our last three seasons as your assumptions in your quoted post.

You are angry and frustrated, we all are, but throwing sh1t at a wall to see what sticks isn't going to change anything or quench your anger. Throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks is what Sean Payton seems to do some times, not foot steps you want to follow in is it?

Read your post back to your self and tell me who's :censored: is burning.

Get some air, play with your kids (or someone else's if you don't have any:o)

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st thomas 01-16-2020 07:30 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 877428)
(Puts on Freud hat)



Very interesting. You are on a football website where there are 99.97% men and other men's "pussies" are on your mind... <---- This statement has as much to do with our last three seasons as your assumptions in your quoted post.



You are angry and frustrated, we all are, but throwing sh1t at a wall to see what sticks isn't going to change anything or quench your anger. Throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks is what Sean Payton seems to do some times, not foot steps you want to follow in is it?



Read your post back to your self and tell me who's :censored: is burning.



Get some air, play with your kids (or someone else's if you don't have any:o)



:love:



If u don’t like (my)opinion stick it up your confused asre!


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st thomas 01-16-2020 07:33 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
It’s why I put a question mark behind is brees holding us hostage? Love me some brees too ya.


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vpheughan 01-16-2020 07:36 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 877422)
Jordan talkin all dat S$$t failed to get to Cousins, Goff and Keenum on critical plays.

Add to your list all the players from the other 30 "TEAMS" that also FAILED to get to the Super Bowl, some to a winning season.

30 "TEAMS" FAIL every year to get there.

30 "TEAMS" with incompetent COACHES and GM'S! :rolleyes:

K Major 01-16-2020 08:08 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
^^^^ Vpheugahn ... you make me laugh :jester:.

vpheughan 01-16-2020 08:44 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877436)
^^^^ Vpheugahn ... you make me laugh :jester:.

In my best Joe Pesci voice from Black And Goldfellas :)
"I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to f****n’ amuse you? Waddya mean “funny”? Funny how? How am I funny?" :jester: :)


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