New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage? (https://blackandgold.com/saints/96811-drew-brees-holding-saints-hostage.html)

st thomas 01-15-2020 08:34 AM

Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Drew Brees will be coming back one more season to seal the deal on his HOF career . And in my honest opinion will not get us back to a Super Bowl . Simply doing it for the records . Sorry if it burns some of ur pussies but jmo. Think about it. This offense has lost its confidence in Drew and Payton for plays he has to call to suit Drew’s decline . We have to put in another guy to throw long which alerts the common 12 year old fan to defend either a bomb or a qb sweep. They will be ready for it next season. Come next season my expectations are minuscule . Because I’m done getting burnt by the eye candy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

halloween 65 01-15-2020 09:14 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Ooooooooow you done it now !!

ScottF 01-15-2020 09:20 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
posted in memory of TeddyBare and Will??

st thomas 01-15-2020 09:21 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 877326)
Ooooooooow you done it now !!



Lmfho


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

st thomas 01-15-2020 09:22 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 877329)
posted in memory of TeddyBare and Will??



Hey talking about Will where’s my buddy at?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ScottF 01-15-2020 09:36 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877332)
Hey talking about Will where’s my buddy at?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

His parents transferred him to a military school with no internet access. I hear he is the top cadet in his 9th grade class.
As for Teddy, I'm guessing he's a ward of the state, either pokey or nuthouse

st thomas 01-15-2020 09:37 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 877337)
His parents transferred him to a military school with no internet access. I hear he is the top cadet in his 9th grade class.

As for Teddy, I'm guessing he's a ward of the state, either pokey or nuthouse



Lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

dizzle88 01-15-2020 10:24 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Completely agree, 3 years in a row where weve looked flat in the biggest moments too.

K Major 01-15-2020 10:27 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
The window isn't closed on the 2020 season but it's dark outside.

spkb25 01-15-2020 10:43 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877322)
Drew Brees will be coming back one more season to seal the deal on his HOF career . And in my honest opinion will not get us back to a Super Bowl . Simply doing it for the records . Sorry if it burns some of ur pussies but jmo. Think about it. This offense has lost its confidence in Drew and Payton for plays he has to call to suit Drew’s decline . We have to put in another guy to throw long which alerts the common 12 year old fan to defend either a bomb or a qb sweep. They will be ready for it next season. Come next season my expectations are minuscule . Because I’m done getting burnt by the eye candy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Adding names to the list of players who failed to get us to a SB this year

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Peat, Lattimore, Thomas, Kamara, Davis

st thomas 01-15-2020 10:46 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 877360)
Adding names to the list of players who failed to get us to a SB this year

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Peat, Lattimore, Thomas, Kamara, Davis



Have to agree parts of the engine


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

iceshack149 01-15-2020 12:23 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
I will live on this site for weeks when the Saints let Brees and Bridgewater walk and get Rosen from Miami...

st thomas 01-15-2020 12:25 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 877368)
I will live on this site for weeks when the Saints let Brees and Bridgewater walk and get Rosen from Miami...



Brees makes receivers great Payton probably could take a QBs off the streets and make him hofer


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thirty3 01-15-2020 12:31 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Sure let’s get rid of the QB who completed 74 percent of his passes This year.

AsylumGuido 01-15-2020 12:37 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Brees still give us our best chance of winning it all. No other QB available gives us a better chance, including Bridgewater or Taysom Hill.

Rugby Saint II 01-15-2020 12:54 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877322)
Drew Brees will be coming back one more season to seal the deal on his HOF career . And in my honest opinion will not get us back to a Super Bowl . Simply doing it for the records . Sorry if it burns some of ur pussies but jmo. Think about it. This offense has lost its confidence in Drew and Payton for plays he has to call to suit Drew’s decline . We have to put in another guy to throw long which alerts the common 12 year old fan to defend either a bomb or a qb sweep. They will be ready for it next season. Come next season my expectations are minuscule . Because I’m done getting burnt by the eye candy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Lighten up Francis! :monkey:

gulfgambler 01-15-2020 05:53 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Thanks Guido and 33; this site has apparently a brees whipping post.
drew is also one of the least sacked qb, if the oline didn't decide to take the 1st failclowns and the minny games off and the defense would have kept the whiners under 40, that would be 3 more wins, and yes if 2 of those would have occurred we wouldn't have even played minny

WhoDat!656 01-15-2020 06:48 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 877376)
Lighten up Francis! :monkey:


foreverfan 01-15-2020 07:14 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877322)
Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?

If you listen to some members, they think we need to get rid of Drew Brees and get a black QB.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/cb...fb755d5eff.gif



When it comes to Brees for 2020... We can still crack that whip with Brees.
Sean Payton and most of us still see this for 2020...


https://media.tenor.com/images/d928e...3040/tenor.gif

https://media1.giphy.com/media/nrKvmxcC8sgXm/source.gif






That ain't just Cool Whip.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/bOQPeOM0YeOAM/giphy.gif

BakoSaint 01-15-2020 08:51 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Maybe we are unlikely to win it all in 2020 with Brees but maybe that could be a good thing. Instead of trying to win now we could invest in the future. Trade back in the draft, stockpile picks, let older players walk, get compensation draft picks, draft for talent not immediate need, spare the salary cap now to creat future flexibility rather than pushing dead cap forward, and let Brees records and legend sell tickets while we rebuild without shame.

If we trade our first rounder this year for future picks, and we have 2 1st round, 2nd round, and 2 3rd round in 2021, it puts us in a good position to replace Brees with Lawrence not some 30 year old with a scary injury history.

neugey 01-15-2020 09:04 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
The financial situation with Brees is what it is - it serves us and him best to bring him back for next season. But being held hostage is a negative way to think of it.

At QB we need to bring back Brees and Taysom and just refine our schemes. Make things a bit simpler and more effective. And it sure would help IMO to mix in some up-tempo stuff. But the offense clearly needs more suitable pieces. We actually should consider going 100% offense in the draft - OG, WR, TE, RB, FB are all needs to a certain extent. Who those exact pieces are, it's tough to say. If it were left to me I'd be tempted to draft WR's Duvernay and Tyler Johnson - guys that are much more than just young burners. JK Dobbins and Clyde E-H at RB, two tough mo'fo's so we never run out of good RB's like San Fran. An athletic sleeper TE that causes matchup problems like Jonnu Smith from the Titans would really help. FB will probably be a rookie free agent but we will have to scout and do our homework to find the right guy. We need to wear teams down with the running game and possession passing.

We may have to let more of our free agents walk than is normally comfortable. But who cares? We have to think long-term too. If we need to move a defensive vet or two, even someone like Cam Jordan or Demario Davis and get more draft picks, might have to pull the trigger because the draft is just so balls deep with talent this year.

jeanpierre 01-15-2020 09:23 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 877417)
The financial situation with Brees is what it is - it serves us and him best to bring him back for next season. But being held hostage is a negative way to think of it.

At QB we need to bring back Brees and Taysom and just refine our schemes. Make things a bit simpler and more effective. And it sure would help IMO to mix in some up-tempo stuff. But the offense clearly needs more suitable pieces. We actually should consider going 100% offense in the draft - OG, WR, TE, RB, FB are all needs to a certain extent. Who those exact pieces are, it's tough to say. If it were left to me I'd be tempted to draft WR's Duvernay and Tyler Johnson - guys that are much more than just young burners. JK Dobbins and Clyde E-H at RB, two tough mo'fo's so we never run out of good RB's like San Fran. An athletic sleeper TE that causes matchup problems like Jonnu Smith from the Titans would really help. FB will probably be a rookie free agent but we will have to scout and do our homework to find the right guy. We need to wear teams down with the running game and possession passing.

We may have to let more of our free agents walk than is normally comfortable. But who cares? We have to think long-term too. If we need to move a defensive vet or two, even someone like Cam Jordan or Demario Davis and get more draft picks, might have to pull the trigger because the draft is just so balls deep with talent this year.

Plus+One! Loomis gets his orders from Payton, and Sean is borrowing against the future, over-budget now, like most politicians...

Payton could give two f*cks about the next three years and when it catches up to the Saints, Payton will leave for greener pastures...

But in no way is this on Brees, nor is he keeping the team hostage; for what he brings the team in quarterback play and leadership - we've got a deal...

cmike 01-15-2020 10:49 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 877360)
Adding names to the list of players who failed to get us to a SB this year

Jordan, Rankins, Davenport, Peat, Lattimore, Thomas, Kamara, Davis

Jordan talkin all dat S$$t failed to get to Cousins, Goff and Keenum on critical plays.

Beastmode 01-15-2020 11:29 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
If we had epic lines he can totally stay. We do not. The trend right now is a QB than can and will run with authority. Specific plays designed for those runs.

Brees, no designed runs and that is a problem. Can't just dink and dunk all day. It really hurt us this go. No ability to create something out of nothing.

TheOak 01-16-2020 06:30 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 877322)
Drew Brees will be coming back one more season to seal the deal on his HOF career . And in my honest opinion will not get us back to a Super Bowl . Simply doing it for the records . Sorry if it burns some of ur pussies but jmo. Think about it. This offense has lost its confidence in Drew and Payton for plays he has to call to suit Drew’s decline . We have to put in another guy to throw long which alerts the common 12 year old fan to defend either a bomb or a qb sweep. They will be ready for it next season. Come next season my expectations are minuscule . Because I’m done getting burnt by the eye candy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

(Puts on Freud hat)

Very interesting. You are on a football website where there are 99.97% men and other men's "pussies" are on your mind... <---- This statement has as much to do with our last three seasons as your assumptions in your quoted post.

You are angry and frustrated, we all are, but throwing sh1t at a wall to see what sticks isn't going to change anything or quench your anger. Throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks is what Sean Payton seems to do some times, not foot steps you want to follow in is it?

Read your post back to your self and tell me who's :censored: is burning.

Get some air, play with your kids (or someone else's if you don't have any:o)

:love:

st thomas 01-16-2020 07:30 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 877428)
(Puts on Freud hat)



Very interesting. You are on a football website where there are 99.97% men and other men's "pussies" are on your mind... <---- This statement has as much to do with our last three seasons as your assumptions in your quoted post.



You are angry and frustrated, we all are, but throwing sh1t at a wall to see what sticks isn't going to change anything or quench your anger. Throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks is what Sean Payton seems to do some times, not foot steps you want to follow in is it?



Read your post back to your self and tell me who's :censored: is burning.



Get some air, play with your kids (or someone else's if you don't have any:o)



:love:



If u don’t like (my)opinion stick it up your confused asre!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

st thomas 01-16-2020 07:33 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
It’s why I put a question mark behind is brees holding us hostage? Love me some brees too ya.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

vpheughan 01-16-2020 07:36 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 877422)
Jordan talkin all dat S$$t failed to get to Cousins, Goff and Keenum on critical plays.

Add to your list all the players from the other 30 "TEAMS" that also FAILED to get to the Super Bowl, some to a winning season.

30 "TEAMS" FAIL every year to get there.

30 "TEAMS" with incompetent COACHES and GM'S! :rolleyes:

K Major 01-16-2020 08:08 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
^^^^ Vpheugahn ... you make me laugh :jester:.

vpheughan 01-16-2020 08:44 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877436)
^^^^ Vpheugahn ... you make me laugh :jester:.

In my best Joe Pesci voice from Black And Goldfellas :)
"I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to f****n’ amuse you? Waddya mean “funny”? Funny how? How am I funny?" :jester: :)

K Major 01-16-2020 08:58 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 877441)
In my best Joe Pesci voice from Black And Goldfellas :)
"I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to f****n’ amuse you? Waddya mean “funny”? Funny how? How am I funny?" :jester: :)


rezburna 01-16-2020 09:45 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
I think it’s time to find a Quarterback who can move. The odds of finding a player who can replicate what Brees has done over the course of his career is ridiculously slim. Being transparent, I no longer believe in Brees.

st thomas 01-16-2020 09:52 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 877445)
I think it’s time to find a Quarterback who can move. The odds of finding a player who can replicate what Brees has done over the course of his career is ridiculously slim. Being transparent, I no longer believe in Brees.



Ur opinion is non bias and acceptable saw it myself where drew has a hard time stepping away from pressure. Not a problem him stepping up but definitely lost something .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Budsdrinker 01-16-2020 09:53 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
For those who want to replace Brees now, please tell me with whom?
Who do you realistically see that we can sign that will be an upgrade to Brees for 2020 or 2021 for that matter.

gulfgambler 01-16-2020 11:27 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 877441)
In my best Joe Pesci voice from Black And Goldfellas :)
"I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to f****n’ amuse you? Waddya mean “funny”? Funny how? How am I funny?" :jester: :)

Forgetaboutit!

Lord_Saint83 01-16-2020 11:29 AM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 877448)
For those who want to replace Brees now, please tell me with whom?
Who do you realistically see that we can sign that will be an upgrade to Brees for 2020 or 2021 for that matter.



You’re not gonna get a good FA qb with the dead money whenever he goes year one. So you’ll prolly have to get a qb out the draft and change the offense to suit them. Like they did for Teddy. Its just a matter of if the FO wants to do it now or later. I see them doing it later and payton skipping town when drew does. But the song remains the same. The dead money will be there.

Rugby Saint II 01-16-2020 12:20 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 877455)
You’re not gonna get a good FA qb with the dead money whenever he goes year one. So you’ll prolly have to get a qb out the draft and change the offense to suit them. Like they did for Teddy. Its just a matter of if the FO wants to do it now or later. I see them doing it later and payton skipping town when drew does. But the song remains the same. The dead money will be there.

Payton is not skipping town. This is the second post mentioning Payton running up the bill and then hitting the road before the bill comes. This is a family owned business and Payton runs the show. Where else is he going to go where he has full autonomy?

13-3 with a back up QB is pretty damned good. He isn't going to run the franchise in the ground and then leave for greener pastures. That is not the Payton I know. Read his book sometime. He might be full of hubris but he's honorable. Ya'll need to give it a rest about this nonsense.

K Major 01-16-2020 12:29 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Meanwhile ...

Jimmy Garoppolo and Ryan Tanneyhill are still standing with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line this weekend.

Goes to show you that a good to above average defense & a consistent run game are still your best bet on getting where you want to be in February.

AsylumGuido 01-16-2020 12:34 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 877459)
Meanwhile ...

Jimmy Garoppolo and Ryan Tanneyhill are still standing with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line this weekend.

Goes to show you that a good to above average defense & a consistent run game are still your best bet on getting where you want to be in February.

AND a certain degree of luck when it comes to injuries. A healthy Davenport and Rankins would have made a huge difference this post-season.

K Major 01-16-2020 12:43 PM

Re: Is Drew Brees holding the saints hostage?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 877460)
AND a certain degree of luck when it comes to injuries. A healthy Davenport and Rankins would have made a huge difference this post-season.

We also need better depth.

The Niners ended the season with 2 more guys land on IR than we did, not to mention they lost their starting center & DT (forced a crucial fumble on Kamara) vs the Saints and the season. In my eyes, losing a GOOD CENTER & DT was huge but the Niners didn't seem to skip a beat. They are one game away from the Super Bowl with an average QB. ** Let's not forget the Titans were 2-4, then Vrbal SWAPPED out his former 1st rounder QB for Ryan Tanneyhill and went 9-7.

Saints simply didn't get it done.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com