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Devil's advocate to people coming here to gain general information about the Saints is misleading. They take what you post as fact. You are funny at times. But it is hard to take what you post as serious or as fact, especially for the hundreds of visitors to the site that never join or post. Consider the audience. Being a Devil's advocate means you don't believe what you are saying is the truth but you are just giving an opinion that is controversial in nature.

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Everything in bold italics came from this article.
www.sbnation.com › 2017/12/17 › panthers-owner-jerry-richardson-s.

The only lines not from that article are

Sound familiar?
and
The molesting of young boys by priests isn't worse than the allegations against Jerry RIchardson?



I've read all sorts of opinion/fact on this thread.

If readers believe everything they read here and don't do their own research, shame on them.

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BINGO!!! DING! DING! DING!

That's exactly what happens though. They don't do anything but read a headline and read your and other's satirical or editorial input and take it as actual fact. The vast majority of people are too lazy or ignorant to do their own research. I do my best to share FACTS, but I know it is also seldom read. Shame on them? I'm not concerned what they believe, I'm concerned what they, in turn, share as what they perceive as absolute facts to others.

Thus the curse of the internet. Back when information was shared in person you could see the face, hear the voice, and personally question the source.

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I'm not concerned what they believe, I'm concerned what they, in turn, share as what they perceive as absolute facts to others.

Got it!!

You don't care what they believe you care in what they perceive are absolute facts.

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At the root of all things interwebz for me is vocabulary and people with very limited understanding of wordz, misrepresenting both their writings and readings.

The interwebz eggspurt doesn't recognize or know the difference between most of these examples.

need/want
persecution/prosecution
believe/know
feel/know
limit/grant (My head explodes when someone says that the articles in the Bill of Rights, grant rights).
censor/censure

Do not get me started on people not able to articulate what they are thinking in even spoken word.

Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis
 

Statement from Gayle Benson

Monday, Feb 10, 2020 04:31 PM

This past weekend, our organization received an interview request from The Associated Press. The email stated that an article was coming out Tuesday. It stated that we could expect questions that "would include things about the nature of Gayle's relationship with Aymond and why, no matter how good a friend he is, would she feel compelled to have her pro sports organizations affiliated in any way with the clergy-molestation scandal? And maybe how she views the decision to do so in hindsight?"

I have decided to take this opportunity based on the request from The Associated Press to send out this statement in order to bring clarity to questions about my relationship with the Archdiocese. While I appreciate the opportunity and thank The Associated Press for kindly reaching out to me to appear in this article, we have had subpoenas served to get emails, and calls made for me to pay into a victim's fund. I have decided to no longer stand idly by while stories are written about our role in this matter and speak to this in my own words. This is a profoundly sad time for the Church, but more so for the victims that live with the daily pain that was inflicted upon them.

Greg Bensel, our senior vice president of communications, was asked if he would help the Archdiocese prepare for the media relative to the release of clergy names involved in the abuse scandal. In the weeks leading up to the Nov. 2, 2018 release of clergy names, Greg met with the Archbishop and communications staff.

Greg informed me that his recommendations were consistent with the Archdiocese and included: be honest, complete and transparent; own the past wrongs and find a solution to correct them and then define those solutions that are in place now to protect victims; be a leader in the Church by being the first Archdiocese in the country to release the full list of names, release all of the names of clergy that have credible evidence against them, regardless of whether they are male/female, dead or alive; and make sure that all law enforcement are given these names prior to the Archdiocese releasing them so they can be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Finally, Greg recommended that, with the goal of transparency, the Archbishop would meet with each media member in person, answering any question. No one associated with our organizations made recommendations or had input on the individual names of those disclosed on the list, rather our suggestion was to be completely transparent.

We are proud of the role we played and yes, in hindsight, we would help again to assist the Archdiocese in its ability to publish the list with the hope of taking this step to heal the community. In addition, we already turned over every email to the court and plaintiff attorneys.

Which brings me to my connection to the Church, the Archbishop and making this statement. I remain repulsed by the actions of past clergy in this abuse scandal. I pray for the healing of the victims and I am hopeful this terrible time will provide a path to eradicate this behavior in the Church. That is why we wanted to help. It is time for healing, which was the purpose of our involvement.

My late husband Tom Benson and I have been devout Catholics all of our lives. We met in the Cathedral. I read at the lectern this weekend reflecting on this very issue offering my prayers for healing. We have supported the Catholic Church and this Archdiocese both financially and spiritually for decades, proudly. Neither Tom Benson nor myself, or any of our organizations have ever contributed nor will ever make payments to the Catholic Church to pay settlements or legal awards of any kind, let alone this issue. To suggest that I would offer money to the Catholic Church to pay for anything related to the clergy-molestation issue sickens me.

Our relationship with past Archbishops and the Archdiocese dates back 50-plus years. Our faith is the core foundation from which we live our daily lives. Unifying, helping, and giving back is not something we do when asked; we do it every day. It defined how Tom Benson ran his organizations and how I ardently continue his legacy.

Sadly, there are many in need in our community, and we work very hard to make sure that we help where we can. We get calls and requests seeking help, advice, and money from every sector of our community, no matter the issue, no matter how controversial or mundane, every day. More often than not, we try to help or assist in finding a solution. Are we perfect? Of course not, but we sincerely listen, we sincerely care, and we sincerely love. It is who we are. Tom Benson instilled that in our organization. I will always continue his legacy.

In closing, I want to be clear in this statement, that I am not going to be deterred in helping people in need, whether a friend seeking advice or a stranger in need, it does not matter, our list is long. We will always find the best way to unify and heal. That is who we are.

I hope that is not lost on the same people that write such articles when they too come asking for help or support. We do not judge those that need help.

We remain steadfast in our prayers for those affected. We pray for our community and we pray for healing.

Gayle Benson

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It's not going away...

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There's nothing there to go away. It's just the AP searching for clicks. This story is no different than their last two and is simply stirring the pot. The fact is that their primary goal of gaining access to emails that are already in the hands of the legal teams of the plaintiffs makes this all unnecessary. My old editor now works for the AP and I asked him about all of this a couple of nights ago and he said he wasn't even aware of any of it. It really appears to be a couple of writers and the only market that is even interested is New Orleans related.

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FOX 8 didn't ask any questions. Read the story. All they did was publish an AP wire story verbatim. Check the byline. As I have mentioned before, one of the news anchors for FOX 8 is my son's best friend and is almost like another son to us. I asked him about this and he said 8 did their story on this back in December and AP hasn't really come up with anything new. If the wire pops up with New Orleans related anything they'll share it.

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Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis
 

Here we go again

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:rolleyes:

Yet you SERIOUSLY post "XFL SALARIES ARE CAPPED AT $55,000"

What happened to CONSIDER THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY TAKE YOU POST AS FACT? :rofl:

Maestro!!! A little SONG AND DANCE music if you please!!!!

Re: Associated Press: NFL’s Saints fight to shield emails in Catholic abuse crisis
 

I readily admitted I was wrong and that the average salary was $55K.

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Yes. Same thing with nothing new. Associated Press still trying to make a story out of their wanting access to emails that the plaintiffs and their attorneys already have access to. The only new thing is that the AP appears to have backed off on some of their suppositions about what true involvement the Saints had in the whole affair. They were treading into the area of libel and backtracking was a wise move.

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Today on VERY SERIOUS SIRUS XM'S "Moving The Chains"
The very show you use to VALIDATE YOUR "OPINIONS" :rofl:

One of the hosts dared use the phrase "DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"!!! :o

By your own definition the two hosts of your SIRUS XM SHOW DON"T BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING and are just giving an opinion that is controversial in nature!!

Did they Think of the millions of listeners who tuned in, perhaps for the first time in search of "FACTS" ?

They certainly didn't consider their audience did they?

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Yawn!

:rolleyes:

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So Predictable!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Okay. I'll bite. You yourself highlighted the difference. The host pointed out the fact that he was playing the Devil's Advocate (ie. not portraying what he was saying as fact). There is a BIG difference. He took the time to point this out. This is part of what makes Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller so good on Moving the Chains. They know that without that caveat some moron out there would take that as fact and run with it. That is exactly the point I was making with you earlier. People on these forums see isolated posts in a vacuum and cannot tell when someone is trying to be funny or not accurate in some other manner.

I can't tell you how many times I have seen people on the internet quoting articles on The Onion and other satirical sites as fact. I'm sure you have, as well.

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Where was your CAVEAT when you rang the XFL $55,000 salary cap bell? Sure you admitted you were wrong but how many (Using YOUR WORD) "MORONS" read your false fact as the truth? You can't unring that bell. Those horses were long gone long after you shut the gate.

Personally I don't take anything any one says on this or any other form of social media as "FACT"

If your "MORONS" rely on any form of social media for "Facts" they must also subscribe to the theory "It must be true it was on the internet"

Again! Shame on them!

This is a forum dedicated to grown men playing a children's game for a living. Some who earn more in a week than the average American worker makes in a year!

When the outcome of a FOOTBALL game brings my loved one's back from the dead, feeds the starving, shelters the homeless and brings about world peace I'll be "SERIOUS"

If anyone needs to be "SERIOUS" it should be them about "US"

Like the winner of a football game this discussion we are engaged in will have zero effect on the price of potato's in Idaho!

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Then why don't you just drop it? Huh?

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The story says this has turned a "national spotlight" on the relationship between the Saints and the Catholic Church, but when you search the news it is only getting any significant mention locally. As I mentioned earlier, my former editor works for an AP office and he hadn't even heard anything about it until I brought it up to him recently.

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AsylumGuido CONSIDER THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY TAKE YOUR POST AS FACT? ................ That "premier" was tongue in cheek, of course.

TONGUE IN CHEEK

"without really meaning what one is saying or writing."

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I can tell you, no one in Houston is hearing anything about this story, unless they're tuned in to this site, or others pertaining to NOLA.

Its another whiff for the soon-to-be-if-not-already-irrelevant AP.

On a personal note, Beer doesn't help the world, or raise the dead, and it
certainly doesnt bring world peace, or any kind of peace, except to me, except when ignorant rednecks are pissing me off.

But beer and football are both important in my life.