Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants

st thomas · 01-26-2020, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway?

Everything to do with pee wee football and above every swinging pecker that’s called a coach

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AsylumGuido · 01-26-2020, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway?

Knowing how to do something and actually doing it successfully are not necessarily inclusive. The best defensive players of all time have been made to look foolish at times by tremendously talented offensive players.

K Major · 01-26-2020, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway?

IIRC the big play that happened in OT (Vikes) was summation of the same thing that happened 2 years ago. Not enough pressure on Cousins, WR beats his man to make a catch, safety is either out of position or late to have an effect on the play.

When the same mistakes or "issues" occur on a consistent basis on the back end ... you have to look at coaching.

The deep ball breakdowns is costing us from advancing.

AsylumGuido · 01-26-2020, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

IIRC the big play that happened in OT (Vikes) was summation of the same thing that happened 2 years ago. Not enough pressure on Cousins, WR beats his man to make a catch, safety is either out of position or late to have an effect on the play.

When the same mistakes or "issues" occur on a consistent basis on the back end ... you have to look at coaching.

Ed McCaffrey talked about this on NFL radio a couple of weeks ago. He said no DB can stay with WR if the QB is given time. Coverage will almost always break down. The safety will be out of position because the coverage has expired. There is going to be a WR, or other player, in a spot where the safety cannot make a play.

Bruce Gradkowski, also on NFL Radio, said that a WR can only be covered effectively for the first 20-25 yards down field. If the protection holds up log enough for the receiver to make it 40+ yards downfield his chances of beating the DB goes up tremendously.

In my opinion we see the breakdowns late in games because the defensive front is getting too gassed to give the necessary pressure thus hanging the defensive backfield out to dry.

TheOak · 01-26-2020, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway?

At the NFL level? There is zero excuse for poor tackling form at the professional level. Form tackling is a mainstay in peewee, Jr. High, High School, College...

I was doing Oklahomas and open field form tackling drills in the 7th grade.

st thomas · 01-26-2020, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

At the NFL level? There is zero excuse for poor tackling form at the professional level. Form tackling is a mainstay in peewee, Jr. High, High School, College...

I was doing Oklahomas and open field form tackling drills in the 7th grade.

Well said thank u.

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WillMacKenzie · 01-26-2020, 08:40 PM

Glenn, take the job, don’t make me fire you.

AsylumGuido · 01-26-2020, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Glenn, take the job, don’t make me fire you.

As if you matter in the scheme of things.

CHA_CHING · 01-27-2020, 05:55 PM

The Giants management is a dumpster fire right now. This was a smart move to avoid them.

01-26-2020, 11:56 AM	#21
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway? Everything to do with pee wee football and above every swinging pecker that’s called a coach Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway? Knowing how to do something and actually doing it successfully are not necessarily inclusive. The best defensive players of all time have been made to look foolish at times by tremendously talented offensive players.

01-26-2020, 12:11 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway? IIRC the big play that happened in OT (Vikes) was summation of the same thing that happened 2 years ago. Not enough pressure on Cousins, WR beats his man to make a catch, safety is either out of position or late to have an effect on the play. When the same mistakes or "issues" occur on a consistent basis on the back end ... you have to look at coaching. The deep ball breakdowns is costing us from advancing. jnormand and st thomas like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by K Major IIRC the big play that happened in OT (Vikes) was summation of the same thing that happened 2 years ago. Not enough pressure on Cousins, WR beats his man to make a catch, safety is either out of position or late to have an effect on the play. When the same mistakes or "issues" occur on a consistent basis on the back end ... you have to look at coaching. Ed McCaffrey talked about this on NFL radio a couple of weeks ago. He said no DB can stay with WR if the QB is given time. Coverage will almost always break down. The safety will be out of position because the coverage has expired. There is going to be a WR, or other player, in a spot where the safety cannot make a play. Bruce Gradkowski, also on NFL Radio, said that a WR can only be covered effectively for the first 20-25 yards down field. If the protection holds up log enough for the receiver to make it 40+ yards downfield his chances of beating the DB goes up tremendously. In my opinion we see the breakdowns late in games because the defensive front is getting too gassed to give the necessary pressure thus hanging the defensive backfield out to dry. Crusader likes this.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Who's job is it to teach tackling anyway? At the NFL level? There is zero excuse for poor tackling form at the professional level. Form tackling is a mainstay in peewee, Jr. High, High School, College... I was doing Oklahomas and open field form tackling drills in the 7th grade. st thomas likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Originally Posted by TheOak At the NFL level? There is zero excuse for poor tackling form at the professional level. Form tackling is a mainstay in peewee, Jr. High, High School, College... I was doing Oklahomas and open field form tackling drills in the 7th grade. Well said thank u. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk TheOak likes this.

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants Glenn, take the job, don’t make me fire you.

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CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Report: Saints DB's coach Aaron Glenn turned down 'enhanced role' with Giants The Giants management is a dumpster fire right now. This was a smart move to avoid them.

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