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Bounce-back third year earns Marcus Williams a spot among top 40 NFL players
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By John Sigler | Saints Wire New Orleans Saints free safety Marcus Williams has a bad rap among some fans. It’s because there’s this perception that he plays small in big moments — like his whiffed tackles on deep passes in last season’s loss to the San Francisco 49ers. There have been a handful of mistakes in critical moments from the 23-year-old starter, and a vocal contingent in Saints social media circles and fan forums are determined to zero in on those few bad plays against the 2,800-plus other snaps Williams has seen since the Saints drafted him. To hear them tell it, Williams is an unreliable player who should be traded at the first opportunity. However, the analysts at Pro Football Focus are here to sweep that misconception away. Their snap-by-snap grading proved Williams isn’t just a good player; he’s one of the NFL’s best, ranking at No. 38 on their list of the top 101 players of 2019: This season saw Marcus Williams return to the level of play that we saw from him as a rookie, and he ended the season with an overall PFF grade of 88.9. ... https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...op-101-grades/ |
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Sure, I get it... he is great 98% of the time. Our problem is the 2% of the time he sucks come out in absolutely backbreaking moments. I would rather have a guy that gave up a play or 5 here and there but made the big play when it really mattered.
Yes, great, he picked off Winston 20 times in a game that meant nothing, but that sure looks great for PFF stats. I would just settle for him making a tackle in the open field without grabbing a face-mask, or completely missing the tackle and hitting his own guy... Sad part is I know Williams (friend of friends), I have met him and talked to him. He is a great kid and has a solid head on his shoulders, but man he needs to be clutch when it matters. For the record I don't want to see him go anywhere, he is young and can develop. He needs to do that before getting a big payday though. |
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Just my straight forward observation on Marcus ...
He has bad situational awareness & is a poor tackler. As a SAFETY, you must be very good in this area. This is 3 years in the Saints defensive system. I've seen enough games to say his range is good. My greatest fear is that this young guy goes elsewhere and balls like M Jenkins did. But to B&G's point, he's not clutch (see Thielan catch when he was late) when you have to be clutch. Dennis Allen? Aaron Glenn ? ... not "coaching him up" perhaps? |
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Spags has 2 rings now. If anyone wants to reply to that with "but he coached the worst defense ever!", and so did Allen! The 2015 Saints broke records of the 2012 team. The 2016 defense gave up more pass TDs than the 2012 team. We have the talent, we just have a mediocre coach on defense. If they had a better coach, the potential is there for them to be dominant. We saw that in 2018 and in brief parts of 2017 and 2019. |
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Fake news.
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PFF is not the gospel. You have guys who would never be hired by an NFL team doing 'player grades'
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The great Bruce Gradkowski?
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PFF grading.. meh.
"There are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics" - Twain. |
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I trust my eyes. He played better this year than last. Still not where he was prior to the Minnesota breakdown but he's getting back to form. Stephone Anthony on the other hand is mind blowing.
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And our other SS Vonn Bell ... IMO he's a must re sign.
Hopefully he's offered a reasonable/fair market deal this off season by the Saints. |
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Bell really stepped up
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Have some different takes on Marcus Williams...
First, that he's not clutch. Well, let's look back at that infamous 2017 Saints @ Vikings playoff defeat; remember that game we were getting handled, then the turning point came with an interception made by... Second, in that same game, just before that last fateful play, a DC and Coach give instructions to their rookie secondary to avoid the PI calls. Mind you, rookies rec'd in game instructions to avoid the PI... Love to have a Time Bubble where I could witness what was and wasn't said by the coaches as I suspect there likely was coaching communication errors that contributed to that final play... And as I'll beat the proverbial horse on this - keep in mind, there was no pass rush to limit the time for Case Keenum to heave the ball downfield unencumbered... Sadly, all Mr. Marcus' play since that fateful gaffe has been viewed through that one event, so there's a lot of pressure on himself and externally to make a play that redefines his legacy here... For my money, I've seen a solid safety constantly improve, develop as one of the top safeties in the league and feel Vonn Bell is much easier replaced (i.e. Gardner) on this roster than Williams would be... |
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Vonn Bell was incredible all season and our D struggled when he got injured.
If its between Vonn and Marcus, then send Williams packing. Didnt Brees called Marcus "Ed Reed-like" in Training Camp once.... |
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You don’t just throw names around, there’s certain expectations that come with a comparison like that. Marcus, if for some reason you’re eating lucky charms in your bath robe and reading this...I’m sorry bud. Picking off Jameis Winston isn’t going to put any busts in Canton. |
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Bell is a keeper and Marcus is borderline worth retaining. If we Keep Marcus we still need another free safety to run a two high safety set because Marcus is not going to cover the back end by himself. He is not a true single fielder.
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