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The future is what I’m getting at, considering the growing age of the NFL’s fanbase, the growing specter of refs fixing games, the growing female support (but also the domestic violence problem), the anthem issues, etc etc, it’s not completely out of the question that the NFL could be vulnerable.

All that being said, I don’t know the motivations of the XFL, so I can’t say for certain what the really intend other than a spring league for castoffs to get more exposure and possibly sign with an NFL team in the future.

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It is simply true, and if NFL fans watch XFL after the NFL season is over then those fans are not diverted.

A child and a parent do compete, they both play in the same financial space. Some times mom gets a purse before dad gets an xbox game or a child gets a new toy.

So you are making a distinction without as difference. I am correct now but things could change? If things change then the reason they are not competing changes or goes away. No where in my post did I say "they will never compete".

In regards to the NFL market, watching XFL is no different than watching spring MLB which is actually in the same space as XFL

When or if the XFL moves its season to Sep-Jan or acquires enough cash to lure NFL players out of the NFL we can certainly revisit. I can see how some lower paid NFL players (kickers possibly) might entertain Playing NFL and XFL which proves they are not in competition or conflict as a person could do both. (baring contract language preventing that from happening):bng:

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I misunderstood your point, I thought you were insinuating a “never” situation.

My pipe dream is getting back at Goodell and I’m jealously guarding my XFL messiah lol

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I am the one insinuating a "never" situation because I feel it is financially impossible for the XFL ever build enough capital to approach the level required to attempt to compete. The NFL ownership is made up of 32 individuals (more or less with Green Bay) that each have more money than the single owner of the entire XFL. When the AFL challenged the NFL some 60 years ago the difference in financial stability was not that great. It was structured in relatively the same manner. To a lessor degree, the same could be said for the USFL, but the difference was great enough that it gave the NFL an edge that the USFL could not overcome. Today the NFL is so ingrained in every way that any hope to compete directly is impossible. The XFL's only chance at survival is to co-exist live off the scraps left by the NFL.

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The XFL looks like it may take a hit soon as I just heard a report that the NFL is trying to bring Dean Blandino back into the fold. Al Riveron has botched officiating since Blandino's departure. The pass interference rule was a disaster in the way it was handled. Talk is that bringing Blandino back could save the rule.

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Blandino is just as bad.

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He has been very vocal about how the replays have been ruled on the PI calls. Riveron turned it into a farce.

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Cam Jordan will be appearing as a sideline reporter at this Saturday's XFL game between Dallas and New York.

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I'm not sure how good NY's defense is however I do know first hand Dallas (Renegades) & Landry Jones is a pick 6 waiting to happen.

Cam should be plenty busy breaking down bad throws all day from him.

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Jones is one of the "premier" QB's getting paid the top end salary of $495K. The games are entertaining, but the viewer just needs to understand the quality cannot match either the NFL or the CFL at a fraction of the compensation.

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"Premier" ... lol. Ok .. and no one is comparing him to the NFL, CFL etc. Dude was released from the Steelers for a reason.

I've watched other QB's around the XFL play much better than Landry. He's garbage plain and simple. 3 int's in 1 quarter is atrocious on any level but that is Stoop's guy.

But good for Jones and that $495k salary. It's great if you can get it.

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That "premier" was tongue in cheek, of course. I was pointing out that he was supposed to be one of the best in the league, thus getting paid the most, but when compared to even backups in the NFL and CFL he pretty much sucks. A couple of the QB's I've seen may be good enough to earn a backup role in one of the other two "major" leagues. PJ Walker with Houston is one of them. He spent a couple of years or so on the Colts practice squad but maybe his showing in the XFL can get him back into the league. He is undersized, of course, but that is being more and more overlooked recently.

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I don't know about ratings, but an average attendance of less than 20,000 a game has to be a concern.

Segue question- does any player look ready to compete for an NFL job? Can the StL qb be the next Taysom? The Houston WR is blowing it up in stats, but how does that translate?

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I read that the league is hoping to maintain an average of between 14K and 18K. Some individual teams are expected to be higher, like St. Louis, but that is the level that they are expecting.

It's really hard to gauge individual players as their competition is far inferior to what they would face in the NFL.

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I could see the QB from Houston getting an invite to a NFL camp this summer

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I can’t remember the coach but one of them said that when evaluating players from “smaller” schools, one of the things they look at is if they dominate their competition

Maybe it was Payton since the Saints have drafted and signed players from schools outside the power 5 conferences

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Nahhh brother. No such thing as never, or forever.

Its all good.

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XFL issues apology for key error at end of game.

The XFL issued an apology for an officiating error that denied the Seattle Dragons an opportunity to tie the Houston Roughnecks at the end of Saturday's game.
With Houston leading by nine on its own 22-yard line, Roughnecks quarterback P.J. Walker took a knee on fourth down to end the game. However, the XFL said Walker's knee clearly touched the field with approximately two seconds remaining, meaning the ball should have been turned over to Seattle.

https://www.espn.com/xfl/story/_/id/...error-end-game

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FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH DEPARTMENT

Tommy Maddox 2001 XFL MVP STATS
Comp. / Att.: 283 / 490
Passing yards: 3,378
TD–INT: 62–17
Passer rating: 96.11
Rushing touchdowns: 5

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I am petty but glad that a Seattle team got the short end of the stick.

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It wouldn't have made a difference. Seattle was getting killed late in the game on offense. They would have had to score on the play had they gotten the ball ... VERY unlikely ... AND then convert a three point conversion from the ten ... also very unlikely ... just to tie. Their players were ready to clear the field.

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Thought I was dreaming NFL issued an apology; it’s the XFL


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Lol.

That was the reason I posted the link ... XFL calling out a mistake & a demotion.

Accountability. Something we won't see in the NFL.

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I was like WTF it’s early in the morning eyes a little blurry u no, lol


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Houston 5-0 fun season so far

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Hey, I think Jamie, and a bunch of our Houston bunch are tailgating a game in a couple weeks.

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That might be the one I’m thinking about going to, if DC has the beer cup snake then the Houston fans need to come up with something too

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I would be shocked if the XFL doesn't cancel their season, as well. Seattle was already planning on playing their week six game in front of an empty stadium. This could be the death knell for the league. Too bad. It was a fun filler.